Please. Not another thread. Reckon this has been taken well out of context. Murray probably said to treat each game as his last due to ongoing developments. Please try to remember, Murray said this would be done in February. It's now April. Like EVERYBODY else, apart from Roland, they cannot say hand on heart that they know how or when this will end.
Threads like this just whip up the hysteria. Please. You've seen and heard enough recently surely to not take a nibble.
Yup all good points, and I don't think there's anything particularly new regarding the future here. It's well known that a takeover is believed to be imminent, and that could see Bowyer replaced as manager.
The rest of the article is very awkward and kind of sensationalized. Instead of saying "these are the bad things Lee Bowyer has done in the past," it hints at them through multiple paragraphs, and insinuates bringing them up to Bowyer. It's that kind of tease you into wanting more style, and I think it's shitty writing, and a bad way to treat someone who has granted you an interview. You don't owe them anything about not bringing up their past, but if you're going to do it, do it on the record and let them respond on the record in a coherent fashion.
Here is a more interesting, and complex, picture of Bowyer from 2003. The things he did/was a part of should not be forgotten. But he does seem like a person who has grown and changed (something David "My Babies" O'Leary touches on starting in the 18 months or so after the incident outside the McDonald's).
Don't know how to add the link but interesting article on Bowyer in the Express this morning. Also, it is mentioned that Richard Murray has advised him Monday's game could be his last one in charge.
Does anyone know if RM is a paid member of staff and does he have an office at the ground, turning up every morning at 08:30?
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Does he just drift in mid morning, stand at the reception desk boring the security guard. Drift into the office staff room for a coffee, then out on to the pitch for a chat with the ground staff, loitering till his coupla million is returned?
Does anyone know if RM is a paid member of staff and does he have an office at the ground, turning up every morning at 08:30?
Or
Does he just drift in mid morning, stand at the reception desk boring the security guard. Drift into the office staff room for a coffee, then out on to the pitch for a chat with the ground staff, loitering till his coupla million is returned?
Murray isn’t an employee, isn’t based at the club and doesn’t run it on a day to day basis.
Does anyone know if RM is a paid member of staff and does he have an office at the ground, turning up every morning at 08:30?
Or
Does he just drift in mid morning, stand at the reception desk boring the security guard. Drift into the office staff room for a coffee, then out on to the pitch for a chat with the ground staff, loitering till his coupla million is returned?
Murray isn’t an employee, isn’t based at the club and doesn’t run it on a day to day basis.
Yes, but apart from that, what has he ever done for us?
Does anyone know if RM is a paid member of staff and does he have an office at the ground, turning up every morning at 08:30?
Or
Does he just drift in mid morning, stand at the reception desk boring the security guard. Drift into the office staff room for a coffee, then out on to the pitch for a chat with the ground staff, loitering till his coupla million is returned?
Murray isn’t an employee, isn’t based at the club and doesn’t run it on a day to day basis.
The club is now run by club shop Kenny the most senior person left...allegedly.
With today's triumph, they would be mad to ask Bow to step down. Some really tough fixtures coming up. It's clear that every player is playing for Lee. Dont change a winning formula.
What is clear is that players we thought were better than the League One crap actually are and Bowyer has got us playing in the way to show it. We looked significantly better than a good League one side on Saturday (I would say in every position) and we completely embaressed a poor one today.
The transformation under Bowyer has been amazing. It would be mad to chane things now. They are on a roll. Even appointing Powell would be a wrong move.
Agree Bowyer has to be given a chance until the end of season certainly but I am worried that Kewell is already chosen by the new owners as the one they want. ( ooh ooh ooh) sorry.
Just see what happens... If we continue on this run then Bowyer has to be left alone.
IF we drop off suddenly, start losing and look like missing out on the Play-Offs then consider replacing him as another season in L1 will likely beckon, can then give a new man a few weeks to assess the squad ahead of the summer
Agree Bowyer has to be given a chance until the end of season certainly but I am worried that Kewell is already chosen by the new owners as the one they want. ( ooh ooh ooh) sorry.
What new owners? Roland's finally worked out that he could make himself a few quid with a good run of results, a trip to Wembley and promotion.
Not been all season but it does seem like, through all the nonsense, someone with the ability to get the team playing in the right way has fallen in our laps. Would be really silly to not give him till the end of the season and make a decision at that point. No real need to bring someone in with under 10 games to go particularly when there really is very little difference in experience between Bowyer and Kewell and the results and performances have improved.
Regardless of what happens leave Bowyer until the end of the season and then make a decision. Even if we fail to make the playoffs Bowyer and Jacko have restored a bit of respect.
Don't forget Bowyer and Kewell good mates and Kewell brought him to Watford. So good chance Bowyer would be kept on whatever happens.
I know several people say this, but if you were Bowyer how would you feel about dropping down to be Kewell's assistant after this? I mean Kewell isn't exactly someone automatically deserving of his respect as a manager, is he? Ex team-mates, same sort of age...I cannot see that working. And Kewell will put himself under a lot of pressure, because after two games at least, no one can improve on what Bowyer has managed. Of course 2 or 3 games is nothing, but if the stories are to be believed, this would be a decision they would make next Tuesday. If Bow gets a win Monday, I'd expect him to tell Kewell where to stick his no 2 role.
It is only two games but I will be very upset if Bowyer isn't given the chance to finish the job he has started. The time to review will be at the end of the season.
Although he's only had the job a couple of weeks, he's been in and around this group for a while now and has clearly built a great relationship with them. As we know all to well, a playoff push and subsequent success in them is built on sound team spirit and comradeship. The balance appears to be there. If Bowyer is as tenacious as a manager as he was as a player then you'd have to say this is a great opportunity. He should be given the nod to continue at least until the end of the season imo.
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The rest of the article is very awkward and kind of sensationalized. Instead of saying "these are the bad things Lee Bowyer has done in the past," it hints at them through multiple paragraphs, and insinuates bringing them up to Bowyer. It's that kind of tease you into wanting more style, and I think it's shitty writing, and a bad way to treat someone who has granted you an interview. You don't owe them anything about not bringing up their past, but if you're going to do it, do it on the record and let them respond on the record in a coherent fashion.
Here is a more interesting, and complex, picture of Bowyer from 2003. The things he did/was a part of should not be forgotten. But he does seem like a person who has grown and changed (something David "My Babies" O'Leary touches on starting in the 18 months or so after the incident outside the McDonald's).
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2003/jan/12/football.newsstory
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Does he just drift in mid morning, stand at the reception desk boring the security guard. Drift into the office staff room for a coffee, then out on to the pitch for a chat with the ground staff, loitering till his coupla million is returned?
Some really tough fixtures coming up.
It's clear that every player is playing for Lee.
Dont change a winning formula.
100% In Bowyer we trust.
IF we drop off suddenly, start losing and look like missing out on the Play-Offs then consider replacing him as another season in L1 will likely beckon, can then give a new man a few weeks to assess the squad ahead of the summer
Roland's finally worked out that he could make himself a few quid with a good run of results, a trip to Wembley and promotion.
Absolutely nothing as all against Kewell, but I got a really feel about Bow and JJ.....
Nuff said
As we know all to well, a playoff push and subsequent success in them is built on sound team spirit and comradeship.
The balance appears to be there. If Bowyer is as tenacious as a manager as he was as a player then you'd have to say this is a great opportunity.
He should be given the nod to continue at least until the end of the season imo.
Then we have a right bunch of complete morons on our hands, it will be awful and I'd be scared.
That's the worry.