Summer 2018 transfer rumours
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so......you take a player on loan (Kaikai)........he ends up being a load of old tosh & you decide that he is worse than any of YOUR own players, that you've nurtured & brought up through your youth system, & so you decide that he wont be playing..........and they then want paying !!!
yeah.........feck off. Might as well have RD's version of "loaning" (ie network players)
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Well it's the choice you take. The alternative is having to pay a share of the wages. IF you get a really good loanee for free who plays every week because he's first choice, the lower club will get a bargain.golfaddick said:so......you take a player on loan (Kaikai)........he ends up being a load of old tosh & you decide that he is worse than any of YOUR own players, that you've nurtured & brought up through your youth system, & so you decide that he wont be playing..........and they then want paying !!!
yeah.........feck off. Might as well have RD's version of "loaning" (ie network players)
Personally as a manager I wouldn't want that situation, where my team selection could be distorted in this way, but I can see certain clubs maybe going for it.2 -
Why do think Kaikai and Mavididi were nearly always on the bench.golfaddick said:so......you take a player on loan (Kaikai)........he ends up being a load of old tosh & you decide that he is worse than any of YOUR own players, that you've nurtured & brought up through your youth system, & so you decide that he wont be playing..........and they then want paying !!!
yeah.........feck off. Might as well have RD's version of "loaning" (ie network players)
Dasilva when he first came to sat on the bench for three months but after his debut didn't get on.
When we loaned Sanogo the proportion of his wages we paid reduced with every game he played.0 -
Roland has just read this memo and authorised 3 palace loanies4
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To be fair, it is not actually a bad idea. Every loan signing any club makes is a risk, as are all transfers. However, with loan signings, both the player and the parent club would be expected to be involved in the squad. It doesn't really make a huge amount of difference.
What it does do though is as mentioned, if you manage to get in a quality player on loan, you won't mind having to play them every week, but you also are not having to pay anything for that player either. It would make the better, quality players who may not be available to certain clubs because of budgets and finance, now available to them.
You have to always weigh up the pros and cons of each situation and you don't of course want to have players who may not be performing for you contractually obliged to play, but that is the risk you take. If they turn out to be good, well, you're laughing.1 -
I'm divided. Obviously it suits Prem clubs because although they pay the wages, their players are getting valuable first team action. However, like others have said, it's going to be difficult to swallow paying someones wages (or half) when they turn out to be a load of shite.0
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As much as i hate the club and past loanees haven't been great, if there is a decent youngster i wouldn't say no. They produce quite a few over the year so if there is one that we fancy, then i dont see it as a negative.0
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I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him0
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Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?0 - Sponsored links:
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Or if they lose tonight maybe that will make them want him out on loan, as he wont be playing till Jan in the FA CupForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
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We just have to see how things go. Fingers crossed but it's not exactly a promising sign.Henry Irving said:1 -
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too2 -
25 man squad for Premier League supplemented by as many U21s as they like. Doesn't exist for Carabao Cup.CafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?1 -
Isn’t it about age rather than where they came from? A 30 year old from the academy would have to registered wouldn’t they?ForeverAddickted said:
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too0 -
I think it is U21'S. It wouldn't surprise me if Cullen played tonight and joined us tomorrow.Scoham said:
Isn’t it about age rather than where they came from? A 30 year old from the academy would have to registered wouldn’t they?ForeverAddickted said:
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too2 -
Yeah looks like it going by the below...Scoham said:
Isn’t it about age rather than where they came from? A 30 year old from the academy would have to registered wouldn’t they?ForeverAddickted said:
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/premier-league-home-grown-players-rule-how-does-it-work/1mww3y06t775v1a7c6139l53ji
Cullen is 22-years old now so would (?) have to be named in the 25-man squad if they wanted to involve him in the Premier League (of course this isnt a Premier League game tonight so doesnt matter)1 -
this means that premier clubs (in this caser just palace so far) can dictate team selection and to a certain extent tactics to a smaller/skint/struggling club .. the players loaned out get battle hardened and scouted at no extra expense to the 'home' club ..
already some big clubs loan out players with the caveat that the loanee will play (say) 2/3 of the games while he is on loan .. as richer clubs get richer and the lower leagues clubs get poorer and more desperate for success, this ostensibly could seem like a good deal ..
BUT, it's the thin end of the wedge towards 'little' clubs being no more than feeder clubs/reserve teams for the Premier teams .. SO .. they can stick it where the sun never intrudes3 -
So O'Kane deciding against a move to League One and West Ham reluctant to loan out Cullen I'd be surprised if we signed anyone now before the Loan Window closes - Might regret not giving a short term deal to Dawkins at this rate2
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wouldn't surprise me if Roland hasn't decided to not fund any further additions8
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"never wanted him"ForeverAddickted said:
"rubbish anyway"
"bad attitude"
"F*** him, if he doesn't want to join us"
"over rated"13 -
That will upset the Leeds fans0
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Wonder what'll happen if a Championship side fails to show interest in time
Although I suspect if O'Kane is coming out with those comments, a Championship club has probably enquired after him0 -
It wouldn’t surprise me if he played tonight and got injured.Richard J said:
I think it is U21'S. It wouldn't surprise me if Cullen played tonight and joined us tomorrow.Scoham said:
Isn’t it about age rather than where they came from? A 30 year old from the academy would have to registered wouldn’t they?ForeverAddickted said:
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too
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yeah Bowyer mentioned leeds trying to do him a favour and Cawley said Leeds wanted him to come to us, think this is him trying to get his way and get the move to a championship club. think Bolton want him.ForeverAddickted said:Wonder what'll happen if a Championship side fails to show interest in time
Although I suspect if O'Kane is coming out with those comments, a Championship club has probably enquired after him1 -
And the CARD haters will blame the protests.LargeAddick said:wouldn't surprise me if Roland hasn't decided to not fund any further additions
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Top man if he did. Making the effort to fit in with the squad before he's even arrived.ricky_otto said:
It wouldn’t surprise me if he played tonight and got injured.Richard J said:
I think it is U21'S. It wouldn't surprise me if Cullen played tonight and joined us tomorrow.Scoham said:
Isn’t it about age rather than where they came from? A 30 year old from the academy would have to registered wouldn’t they?ForeverAddickted said:
He's one of their Academy Players, doesnt have to be part of the Squad announced to the Premier LeagueCafcSCP said:
Would he be added to their squad numbers?ForeverAddickted said:I guess if Cullen plays well tonight against AFC Wimbledon there will be a big chance that West Ham will decide to keep him
I thought Prem clubs could only name 23 in a squad or is that just for Prem games?
Probably just for League games too5 -
My guess is that after reading somewhere that Bowyer said it was up to both clubs to agree fee's etc, that RD has not offered either Leeds or West Ham enough money, wage contribution, to take O'Kane or Cullen on loan. After-all he is cost cutting everywhere, and perhaps LB has to now put up with what he has?0
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"We had irons in the fire but we just couldn't get them over the line before the deadline"1
