Taylor's withdrawal of his labour ain't ever gonna sit well with us, despite the fact we'd none of us in our right mind jeopardise a life changing payday for any current or soon to be former employer. He's at least shown greater integrity than many might and made an honest, explicable decision. It would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up for training, doss about, take it easy and if selected not try a leg in matches. He'd get exactly the same heinous profane abuse from all the same heinous profane gobshites and keyboard onanists either way. He could feign a muscle injury, turn up to training, grimace and yelp on the physio's table and sit out the next month. I've got money on there being shirkers and lead-swingers making up the numbers at Sparrows Lane and training grounds across the league. Their gutless malfeasance will play out over the coming weeks. The working human is a proven greedy robot after all. The horse has bolted now but with the likelihood of extra subs, if LB and LT had their time again I think there's a version they coulda gone for. Thus: we're told "LT has a back/hamstring/groin thing that hasn't settled down, he deffo can't play 90 minutes but blah blah blah on the bench." 85th minute or later in a game where Charlton are within a goal of a point or all 3 near goal free-kick or better yet penalty, sub him on for his prowess - he's head'n'shoulders the best at both in the whole squad. The season pans out how it pans out, LT maybe sidefoots in a goal, and everybody goes away none the wiser. LT would still get the bullshit from the bully manbabies. Maybe his back is broad enough and his balls big enough to take the cowardly nonsense safe in the knowledge his salary from July onward will outstrip everything all those twats will earn in several lifetimes.
The analogies relating Taylor's situation to a regular job are fairly redundant IMO. Taylor is getting upwards of £200k a year to play football where-as most of us regular people are earning a fraction of that (good for you if you're earning that!) All he has to do is work for one more month and be handsomely rewarded for it...
I know what you mean. Make a controversial statement even if you don't believe it and argue with people. I can't listen to it because it is so contrived.
I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested.
It does make his lauded Zoom interview where he was all ‘honest John’ about Southall, and bleeding heart for fans, look a little like a getting in first PR move, knowing he was going to sit out the last month of his deal.
Particularly how he was giving it the big one about how professional he was to keep playing after transfer fell through. That hasn't aged well.
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
The new report says he's not training and as such, I hope he is not being paid.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
I didn't want to react too soon, so I've been mulling it over, and ....
.... I can say I'm bitterly disappointed. To think that a player so important to the club should make such a decision at such a moment in such difficult circumstances is unheard of. He likes to be different - well, he's made that clearer than ever.
When he became an Addick his record was that of a journeyman - a respectable career but nothing more exciting. Without question we made him a better player, and he thrived. And in return for the goals - and the attitude, the sheer presence - he gave us we gave him adulation.
When he was injured playing for his hobby-country it was just accepted because he was so much in credit, and of course he continued to be paid, as per his contract. For the team this season has not been a classic but it has been characterised by an unflagging spirit. Until now. At this moment of daunting challenge, when all Addicks and all opponents alike were looking to our sharpshooter, our irrepressible force of nature, our talisman, he turned out to have not a lion's heart but the heart of a mouse.
The approaching end of a contract normally spurs the player on to redouble his efforts, to showcase his talents and his commitment. For LT9 to bench himself is unforgivable. And unprecedented.
And one more thing. He has the status of a Championship player, won at Wembley. On that epic day there were in fact several players playing their last game for the Addicks - would our special guy have still got his medal if any single one of them had decided to hold back on the day? I don't think so - it was the TEAM that prevailed, the same team that he is now abandoning.
I wonder how many people on here giving him abuse would stick with their current employer if they were as much of a basket case as we are and a competitor came along waving a salary four times what they were on at said basket case.
Fuck off about 'loyalty' - what's he got to be loyal about? Even if he was a Charlton fan (which he's not), why should he turn down the opportunity to get out of the shit show we are at the moment - especially in the current pandemic climate - and better his situation?
There's a lot of people who somehow think that football should be different to any other business. It. That's one of the reasons it's so fucked. It shouldn't be different to any other business.
Out in the real world, employers have no loyalty to employers any more - that disappeared in the 80s with the bowler hat, carriage clock and handshake after 40 years. Footballers might appear to have the upper hand in the employer/employee relationship, but that isn't as clear cut as it looks - they're commodities to be traded around. Yes their wages are obscene, but so are failing CEOs who fuck companies over then disappear, only to turn up somewhere else six months later after a nice paid-for holiday at the expense of the shareholders of the company they just gutted, or asset strippers who bug a company and sell off its crown jewels, strip it bare then leave it to fail after creaming the profits.
It's not football that's broken - it's society!
He could always have handed his notice in back when he realised the club was a basket case. I mean you can't have it both ways - "This place is rubbish. I'm not working here any more. Where's my salary?"
Read in the papers your club captain 10 years support and devotion... Doesn't want to play?
Kinda kills it.
I cling to the hope it is just good management from Bowyer, controlling the media and the squad by being assertive.
David Davis was another ESI robbery. I hear from Brum that he has not been up to any standard since last injury. He is League 2 without his physicality. Joke signing.
I reckon Lyle will play that 1 game. To pull out is not professional, despite the circumstances everyone can understand. A Lion player would not pull out through fear of injury. It will adversely affect his game, big jessy.
Full marks Lee Bowyer. Trying to win 9 cup finals. Get rid of anyone that doesn't fancy it.
It’s not up for debate. His refusal to play is a breach of his contract. He is contracted until the end of the month. He should be available for selection until then. He holds all the cards though. If he was forced to play he would put in minimal effort. Bowyer knows that and couldn’t pick him. I doubt the club will even bother to sanction him.
If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes.
It’s not up for debate. His refusal to play is a breach of his contract. He is contracted until the end of the month. He should be available for selection until then. He holds all the cards though. If he was forced to play he would put in minimal effort. Bowyer knows that and couldn’t pick him. I doubt the club will even bother to sanction him.
If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes.
Agreed. Don’t think it does the team any favours even if he changed his mind. Taylor is my favourite player by a county mile. But he has made his choice. Him and Solly can both do one - they are no longer Charlton players in my eyes. As for Davis - he has done us a massive favour.
Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so.
Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so.
A proven goalscorer worth between £5-£10m at current prices....for free.
Potential suitors couldn’t give a stuff.
And we know he’s not a bad egg. All he did for Betty etc. He’s made a mistake with this ethically and PR wise but not for his bank balance. Still don’t like it. A mistake.
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He's at least shown greater integrity than many might and made an honest, explicable decision. It would be the easiest thing in the world to turn up for training, doss about, take it easy and if selected not try a leg in matches. He'd get exactly the same heinous profane abuse from all the same heinous profane gobshites and keyboard onanists either way. He could feign a muscle injury, turn up to training, grimace and yelp on the physio's table and sit out the next month.
I've got money on there being shirkers and lead-swingers making up the numbers at Sparrows Lane and training grounds across the league. Their gutless malfeasance will play out over the coming weeks. The working human is a proven greedy robot after all.
The horse has bolted now but with the likelihood of extra subs, if LB and LT had their time again I think there's a version they coulda gone for. Thus: we're told "LT has a back/hamstring/groin thing that hasn't settled down, he deffo can't play 90 minutes but blah blah blah on the bench." 85th minute or later in a game where Charlton are within a goal of a point or all 3 near goal free-kick or better yet penalty, sub him on for his prowess - he's head'n'shoulders the best at both in the whole squad. The season pans out how it pans out, LT maybe sidefoots in a goal, and everybody goes away none the wiser. LT would still get the bullshit from the bully manbabies.
Maybe his back is broad enough and his balls big enough to take the cowardly nonsense safe in the knowledge his salary from July onward will outstrip everything all those twats will earn in several lifetimes.
I have missed football, but in honesty, if you put football kits on two teams of chimps I would be interested.
People responding on that post with club matters are bellends.
If these two things are in place, then I have far less of an issue. I do think he should be playing out the last games of his contract though, even if only out of respect for Bowyer and his teammates including the 12th man.
Where was the new report mate? I must've missed it.
At this rate, @aliwibble will have to do a bitesize Lyle thread haha
"The 30-year-old has not trained with the club since last Tuesday and Bowyer admitted he twice failed in his efforts to change Taylor’s mind."
Integrity, the choice between what's convenient and what's right.
Read in the papers your club captain 10 years support and devotion... Doesn't want to play?
Kinda kills it.
I cling to the hope it is just good management from Bowyer, controlling the media and the squad by being assertive.
David Davis was another ESI robbery. I hear from Brum that he has not been up to any standard since last injury. He is League 2 without his physicality. Joke signing.
I reckon Lyle will play that 1 game. To pull out is not professional, despite the circumstances everyone can understand. A Lion player would not pull out through fear of injury. It will adversely affect his game, big jessy.
Full marks Lee Bowyer. Trying to win 9 cup finals. Get rid of anyone that doesn't fancy it.
Macauley Bonne is going to be huge.
Still a half decent side there. Hope dies last.
wonder what he’d do in the same situation as Lyle.
If he was forced to play by some legality of some description I’d wager my house on him tweaking a hamstring within 5 minutes.