I’m still concerned about the precedent it’s setting if we allow him to do this. A competent club would surely be suing for breach of contract? Could create additional problems for ourselves (and other clubs) further down the road.
Loyalty is for supporters not players. Some may feel obligated to play but for most it's about number one.
So, someone on here said there are around 350 Championship players whose contracts expire at the end of the season. Thus far I have only heard that Taylor and Solly are unwilling to play for non-COVID related reasons. So, please correct if I am wrong but doesn’t that mean around 99.5% feel obligated to honour their contracts as opposed to “some”. Of course that may change in the next couple of weeks but how about we stick with facts for now?
Lyle has shown so much class before this move that for me is so classless I can't stop thinking something doesn't seem right about it.
He was a nice guy but not as articulate or bright as we obviously thought and badly advised also. if he had honoured his contract and stayed to the very end, he would have kept his respect from others and his Manager also his integrity and he may have even left the club a hero helping to keep us up ? he has got it wrong and he can now go 👎
Taylor is just a chancer like Southall. Now for Solly who we have paid through the years even though he missed so many games and Lawrie Wilson proved to be a better right back given the chance I am very disappointed.
Sitting out the end of the season to get a dream move to Gillingham????
Loyalty is for supporters not players. Some may feel obligated to play but for most it's about number one.
So, someone on here said there are around 350 Championship players whose contracts expire at the end of the season. Thus far I have only heard that Taylor and Solly are unwilling to play for non-COVID related reasons. So, please correct if I am wrong but doesn’t that mean around 99.5% feel obligated to honour their contracts as opposed to “some”. Of course that may change in the next couple of weeks but how about we stick with facts for now?
Was talking about our players. Some players will have a sense of duty to honour their contractual obligations others are playing to put themselves in the shop window. What ever way you want to put it football is just a job to them so they will look after number one.
Lyle Taylor was happy to still pick up his wages while this pandemic has been going on.He didn't say anything then. Fans detest players like this taking their club for a easy living and giving nothing back.
Lyle Taylor was happy to still pick up his wages while this pandemic has been going on.He didn't say anything then. Fans detest players like this taking their club for a easy living and giving nothing back.
I'm not sure the publicity is doing Lyle Taylor much good, as he's become the "poster boy" across football fans off all clubs of greedy players not caring at all about their club or supporters, not a good reputation to get, even if you apparently thrive on confrontation
Lyle Taylor was happy to still pick up his wages while this pandemic has been going on.He didn't say anything then. Fans detest players like this taking their club for a easy living and giving nothing back.
I'm not sure the publicity is doing Lyle Taylor much good, as he's become the "poster boy" across football fans off all clubs of greedy players not caring at all about their club or supporters, not a good reputation to get, even if you apparently thrive on confrontation
Taylor will hate this. I know he likes the limelight, but I don’t think he’ll be used to it on this level that is now outside of the Charlton bubble and for all the football world to be commenting on (and lambasting).
As a result, I doubt he and Bowyer are on the best terms and the chances of him changing his mind would be slim. Hope I’m wrong though.
Such a sad way for all this to end. And even more so with Chris Solly - a man who was already considered a legend of the club. This footnote will always be there against his name.
Lyle Taylor was happy to still pick up his wages while this pandemic has been going on.He didn't say anything then. Fans detest players like this taking their club for a easy living and giving nothing back.
And for the months he was injured as a result of playing for another team. Paid and looked after.
Doesn’t the international team pick up the tab for wages if a player is injured whilst on international duty?
No. If a national team is in the final stages of an international tournament they have an obligation to compensate the club. Otherwise the doctors attached to the national team have an obligation to submit the results of their own examinations to assist the club in treating the injury but they don't have to pay any compensation to the club. So if a player decides to play for a minor national side (no disrespect) like Montserrat there is almost no chance they will get past the initial stages of any tournament they are in, so no risk of having to pay compensation.
Not sure what I think of this yet and will reserve my judgement until I have heard Taylor's side.
Don't forget Bowyer knew about the transfer embargo and still let Southall play out the silly transfer day bollocks at the expense of us mug fans. Bowyer was looking out for number one there and I don't blame him.
Too much has gone on at the ministry of propaganda that is CAFC in the past few years and particularly past 6 months for me to take anything coming from anyone associated with the club as gospel. Everyone has an angle, an agenda a version of events.
It may well turn out to be as straightforward as is being reported and if that's the case I'll understand it but would be pretty gutted and disappointed but not surprised as the game is a cesspit now and the Steve Bulls and Jack Walkers are as rare as hen's teeth nowadays. I'm almost more disappointed at how unsurprised I am with each new low that the game sinks to and further and further away from substance and integrity...as leroy points out mirroring current society.
One thing I did think is that my contract at work states I have to give 3 months notice. How many people would work their 3 months notice period if they won £50m on the euromillions...particularly if working an extra day meant an albeit relatively small but very real risk that doing so would jeopardise ever collecting those winnings.
LT doesn’t owe Charlton naff all after the way roly twunt and mouthall both mugged him off and lied about it after. LT was told he was sold by both regimes deals done fees agreed then on the eve of the window it’s all off and he’s hung out to dry like Roly’s sodden bedsheets LT’s employer is getting the self same loyalty integrity and class it gave him. Keyboard wankers can bellyache til kingdom come it’s just delusional guff. Dry your eyes kiddies put away the left handed mice and get on with anything else slightly less vacuous.
I'm not sure the publicity is doing Lyle Taylor much good, as he's become the "poster boy" across football fans off all clubs of greedy players not caring at all about their club or supporters, not a good reputation to get, even if you apparently thrive on confrontation
Taylor will hate this. I know he likes the limelight, but I don’t think he’ll be used to it on this level that is now outside of the Charlton bubble and for all the football world to be commenting on (and lambasting).
As a result, I doubt he and Bowyer are on the best terms and the chances of him changing his mind would be slim. Hope I’m wrong though.
Such a sad way for all this to end. And even more so with Chris Solly - a man who was already considered a legend of the club. This footnote will always be there against his name.
The club is actually cursed.
I'm not sure I'd class Solly as a legend - a term banded around too readily nowadays anyway. A long serving player yes who gave good service, but I'm not sure he ever had the same attachment to the club and fans as Powell or Jacko did, even without moving into the dugout.
Loyalty is for supporters not players. Some may feel obligated to play but for most it's about number one.
He’s contractually obligated to play, nothing to do with an expectation of loyalty.
Right but how do you do you make him play and what Lyle Taylor will you get.
I wouldn't want him to play now as he wouldn't put a shift in & we would all know he's doing it under suffererence.
So either dont pay his wages for June & let him sue us or get him to do menial tasks around the training ground - picking up the cones, fetching the footballs or even a spot of painting & decorating. But certainly not have him training with the first team.
Not had the passion to read this all in full. So my take on this. 1. He has a very short lived career that has to be about him not any club. 2. He has made it clear he has been f'ed about by the last two owners of cafc, see point one. 3. He has already had a major injury this season playing for his country (something we dreamed off, the playing obviously) see point one. 4. He absolutely should protect himself point three. Given point one, why put any of that ar risk given point two for cafc in the knowledge that we all have now. Lyle thank you for your service now go and get what you are worth. Passion aside let's be honest he deserves so much better, as do all the staff playing and none, very few have the opportunity to really go for it. Let's praise it when one of does
LT doesn’t owe Charlton naff all after the way roly twunt and mouthall both mugged him off and lied about it after. LT was told he was sold by both regimes deals done fees agreed then on the eve of the window it’s all off and he’s hung out to dry like Roly’s sodden bedsheets LT’s employer is getting the self same loyalty integrity and class it gave him. Keyboard wankers can bellyache til kingdom come it’s just delusional guff. Dry your eyes kiddies put away the left handed mice and get on with anything else slightly less vacuous.
Again, transfer dealings are part & parcel of the game. Until a player signs on the white line for another club nothing is done & dusted. Just because we might have agreed a deal with a club doesnt mean we have to then sell said player. Counting chickens (and money) me thinks.
Now, if Taylor thinks he was hard done by & holds a grudge against the club that will pale into insignificance to the amount of abuse he will now get if & when he turns up to play against us.
Dipped into a Rangers forum for a quick peek and they are not overly impressed by Lyle’s actions. Quite a few “do we want to sign a known troublemaker” type of comment. I do wonder if he will have just caused a few suitors to pause for thought. Hope so.
This the same Rangers who have walking red card Alfredo Morelos as their star striker?
No way would say Brentford have told him not to play for the rest of the season, especially as we are due to play them. That would be considered a massive breach of the rules.
Football operates separately from normal life, it's not like a normal job where in your last few weeks you hand over your responsibilities, tidy your desk and go for long lunch breaks, as the last game in your contract is potentially just as important as your 1st or 34th. Clubs aren't stupid, if we were relegated with 2 games to go, I'm sure Bowyer would be happy to leave Taylor out.
The integrity of the league season relies on it, and it's this structure which generates massive public interest and makes lots of players very rich. If the FA AND PFA had any sense of morals, they would instruct its members to play the full season, and for clubs to extend all contracts until the season is ended. These are extraordinary times, and everyone has to show solidarity to the wider game.
Brentford probably won't have said to him we don't want you playing as you're playing against us soon. But they may well have said, if you get a long term injury the deal is off and we'll look elsewhere.
Personally i think Brentford will only sign him if they don't go up. They have a prolific strike pairing and if they got promotion would they still want Taylor, or with 100m in their pockets would they look elsewhere?
No way would say Brentford have told him not to play for the rest of the season, especially as we are due to play them. That would be considered a massive breach of the rules.
Football operates separately from normal life, it's not like a normal job where in your last few weeks you hand over your responsibilities, tidy your desk and go for long lunch breaks, as the last game in your contract is potentially just as important as your 1st or 34th. Clubs aren't stupid, if we were relegated with 2 games to go, I'm sure Bowyer would be happy to leave Taylor out.
The integrity of the league season relies on it, and it's this structure which generates massive public interest and makes lots of players very rich. If the FA AND PFA had any sense of morals, they would instruct its members to play the full season, and for clubs to extend all contracts until the season is ended. These are extraordinary times, and everyone has to show solidarity to the wider game.
Brentford probably won't have said to him we don't want you playing as you're playing against us soon. But they may well have said, if you get a long term injury the deal is off and we'll look elsewhere.
Personally i think Brentford will only sign him if they don't go up. They have a prolific strike pairing and if they got promotion would they still want Taylor, or with 100m in their pockets would they look elsewhere?
The Brentford game would be played in July, he'd be out of contract by then.
No way would say Brentford have told him not to play for the rest of the season, especially as we are due to play them. That would be considered a massive breach of the rules.
Football operates separately from normal life, it's not like a normal job where in your last few weeks you hand over your responsibilities, tidy your desk and go for long lunch breaks, as the last game in your contract is potentially just as important as your 1st or 34th. Clubs aren't stupid, if we were relegated with 2 games to go, I'm sure Bowyer would be happy to leave Taylor out.
The integrity of the league season relies on it, and it's this structure which generates massive public interest and makes lots of players very rich. If the FA AND PFA had any sense of morals, they would instruct its members to play the full season, and for clubs to extend all contracts until the season is ended. These are extraordinary times, and everyone has to show solidarity to the wider game.
They would have indicated a preference for him not getting injured with a clear implication that he shouldn't play for us. Informal and off the record. Taylor will know where he is going and how much he is going to be getting. He is not going to say anything that will undermine his new club.
But this goes on in football all the time. Clubs are always telling young players they can't play for their schools or clubs anymore. It is the culture of clubs and ridiculous to think is these strange times with the season extended into the summer that this isn't what is happening here.
I agree with Ally Mc Coist if a player agrees and signs a contract he should see out that contract. It is as simple as that. I can't believe some of the posters who are sticking up for Taylor.
No way would say Brentford have told him not to play for the rest of the season, especially as we are due to play them. That would be considered a massive breach of the rules.
Football operates separately from normal life, it's not like a normal job where in your last few weeks you hand over your responsibilities, tidy your desk and go for long lunch breaks, as the last game in your contract is potentially just as important as your 1st or 34th. Clubs aren't stupid, if we were relegated with 2 games to go, I'm sure Bowyer would be happy to leave Taylor out.
The integrity of the league season relies on it, and it's this structure which generates massive public interest and makes lots of players very rich. If the FA AND PFA had any sense of morals, they would instruct its members to play the full season, and for clubs to extend all contracts until the season is ended. These are extraordinary times, and everyone has to show solidarity to the wider game.
They would have indicated a preference for him not getting injured with a clear implication that he shouldn't play for us. Informal and off the record. Taylor will know where he is going and how much he is going to be getting. He is not going to say anything that will undermine his new club.
But this goes on in football all the time. Clubs are always telling young players they can't play for their schools or clubs anymore. It is the culture of clubs and ridiculous to think is these strange times with the season extended into the summer that this isn't what is happening here.
What annoys me most about Taylor is he loves to play the social media game yet he demonstrates a lack of integrity and will still expect approval by those daft enough to feel sorry for him.
Sick of the excuses made for him - he's made a choice and will be judged accordingly. Let's save our respect for those in society who deserve it.
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as we obviously thought and badly advised also.
if he had honoured his contract and stayed to the very end, he would have kept his respect from others and his Manager also his integrity and he may have even left the club a hero helping to keep us up ?
he has got it wrong and he can now go 👎
Now for Solly who we have paid through the years even though he missed so many games and Lawrie Wilson proved to be a better right back given the chance I am very disappointed.
As a result, I doubt he and Bowyer are on the best terms and the chances of him changing his mind would be slim. Hope I’m wrong though.
Such a sad way for all this to end. And even more so with Chris Solly - a man who was already considered a legend of the club. This footnote will always be there against his name.
The club is actually cursed.
Don't forget Bowyer knew about the transfer embargo and still let Southall play out the silly transfer day bollocks at the expense of us mug fans. Bowyer was looking out for number one there and I don't blame him.
Too much has gone on at the ministry of propaganda that is CAFC in the past few years and particularly past 6 months for me to take anything coming from anyone associated with the club as gospel. Everyone has an angle, an agenda a version of events.
It may well turn out to be as straightforward as is being reported and if that's the case I'll understand it but would be pretty gutted and disappointed but not surprised as the game is a cesspit now and the Steve Bulls and Jack Walkers are as rare as hen's teeth nowadays. I'm almost more disappointed at how unsurprised I am with each new low that the game sinks to and further and further away from substance and integrity...as leroy points out mirroring current society.
One thing I did think is that my contract at work states I have to give 3 months notice. How many people would work their 3 months notice period if they won £50m on the euromillions...particularly if working an extra day meant an albeit relatively small but very real risk that doing so would jeopardise ever collecting those winnings.
So either dont pay his wages for June & let him sue us or get him to do menial tasks around the training ground - picking up the cones, fetching the footballs or even a spot of painting & decorating. But certainly not have him training with the first team.
So my take on this.
1. He has a very short lived career that has to be about him not any club.
2. He has made it clear he has been f'ed about by the last two owners of cafc, see point one.
3. He has already had a major injury this season playing for his country (something we dreamed off, the playing obviously) see point one.
4. He absolutely should protect himself point three. Given point one, why put any of that ar risk given point two for cafc in the knowledge that we all have now.
Lyle thank you for your service now go and get what you are worth.
Passion aside let's be honest he deserves so much better, as do all the staff playing and none, very few have the opportunity to really go for it. Let's praise it when one of does
Now, if Taylor thinks he was hard done by & holds a grudge against the club that will pale into insignificance to the amount of abuse he will now get if & when he turns up to play against us.
Personally i think Brentford will only sign him if they don't go up. They have a prolific strike pairing and if they got promotion would they still want Taylor, or with 100m in their pockets would they look elsewhere?
But this goes on in football all the time. Clubs are always telling young players they can't play for their schools or clubs anymore. It is the culture of clubs and ridiculous to think is these strange times with the season extended into the summer that this isn't what is happening here.
Sick of the excuses made for him - he's made a choice and will be judged accordingly. Let's save our respect for those in society who deserve it.