Lyle Taylor was happy to still pick up his wages while this pandemic has been going on.He didn't say anything then. Fans detest players like this taking their club for a easy living and giving nothing back.
And for the months he was injured as a result of playing for another team. Paid and looked after.
Doesn’t the international team pick up the tab for wages if a player is injured whilst on international duty?
No. If a national team is in the final stages of an international tournament they have an obligation to compensate the club. Otherwise the doctors attached to the national team have an obligation to submit the results of their own examinations to assist the club in treating the injury but they don't have to pay any compensation to the club. So if a player decides to play for a minor national side (no disrespect) like Montserrat there is almost no chance they will get past the initial stages of any tournament they are in, so no risk of having to pay compensation.
I also think we need to put "International Team" into perspective
"On June 30, 2002, the day of the 2002 World Cup Final, Montserrat, then the lowest ranked team in the world, played against the second lowest team, Bhutan, in a friendly match known jokingly as "The Other Final", but lost 4–0.
I agree with Ally Mc Coist if a player agrees and signs a contract he should see out that contract. It is as simple as that. I can't believe some of the posters who are sticking up for Taylor.
I totally agree Dick. only someone who is thick or lacking in integrity would think Taylor’s actions were fair and decent. but Taylor despite some of his amusing remarks over the time he has been at Charlton is not that street wise or smart 😂
its not necessarily the salary, he will get a 500/750k signing on fee - i get why he is doing it, its completely wrong but it makes sense but its a risk for him efl ruling states he cannot play for the new club until the new season starts - worst case 3 weeks from now we get a huge surge in cases and lockdown starts again - he is looking at a few months without wages, plus no dates even set for the new season.
apologies to digress but i cant keep up what players are out of contract come end of june, will we offer them all extensions until end of season ( end of July ) and hope they sign, i suppose if they don't they will have no wages for the foreseeable.
No way would say Brentford have told him not to play for the rest of the season, especially as we are due to play them. That would be considered a massive breach of the rules.
Football operates separately from normal life, it's not like a normal job where in your last few weeks you hand over your responsibilities, tidy your desk and go for long lunch breaks, as the last game in your contract is potentially just as important as your 1st or 34th. Clubs aren't stupid, if we were relegated with 2 games to go, I'm sure Bowyer would be happy to leave Taylor out.
The integrity of the league season relies on it, and it's this structure which generates massive public interest and makes lots of players very rich. If the FA AND PFA had any sense of morals, they would instruct its members to play the full season, and for clubs to extend all contracts until the season is ended. These are extraordinary times, and everyone has to show solidarity to the wider game.
They would have indicated a preference for him not getting injured with a clear implication that he shouldn't play for us. Informal and off the record. Taylor will know where he is going and how much he is going to be getting. He is not going to say anything that will undermine his new club.
But this goes on in football all the time. Clubs are always telling young players they can't play for their schools or clubs anymore. It is the culture of clubs and ridiculous to think is these strange times with the season extended into the summer that this isn't what is happening here.
Players are free to negotiate a move 6 months before their contract is up so, if what you're saying is correct, why ain't there more cases like this of players refusing to play the last few games for their "old" Club? I don't think this is the case at all, and even if it is, it still don't change the fact that Taylor is a w****r for doing it imo
The reason is that it would be obvious in normal circumstances what is going on. Also, should the player get an injury, there is a significant period before the new season commences. There are unknowns here and excuses that can be applied because of the virus and clubs are happy to stitch each other up. There is no honour in football, it is a dog eat dog business sadly.
I understand a few things in relation to Taylor.
a) He was great for us whilst he was with us and gave everything b) He is not loyal to us or anybody else and we are not his club. That suits us when he is leaving Wimbledon on a free and not when he leaves us. c) He does have mitigation that he has been messed about and used a bit as a pawn in our ongoing saga. d) He does have mitigation that it is normal for players to put themselves first and at the stage of his career he has at, maybe an even bigger factor. e) Is he being disloyal. Yes, I think he is, but I suspect he thinks he has given us more than most and may disagree. He is a player, there are very few of them that really put the club high on their list of priorities. It is one of the reasons I dislike players kissing the badge. Mind you, I have never seen Taylor do that.
Ultimately, we are in credit with him and his legacy will be a decent player for us rather than a legend. I'll clap him if and when he returns but I do think he is disloyal. It is just he can join a club with a massive membership in that regards. It stains football as we have passion and loyalty for our club and hardly anybody else in the game does. But I won't single out Taylor in relation to that.
He done one season in a poor league one and bang in many. Play off games he was ok, scored one and set up one but not super Clive.
This season got a few early doors then been injured and COVID and then fucked off. Once the dust has settled he will be forgotten and certainly won’t be on the list of Addicks legends wheeled out onto the pitch in years to come.
So so many players in the last 20 years let’s say will be held in higher esteem.
He even ruined my sons all key players (except Bauer, need to get to Preston) signed shirt by signing it upside down. Proper arrogant doing that!
its not necessarily the salary, he will get a 500/750k signing on fee - i get why he is doing it, its completely wrong but it makes sense but its a risk for him efl ruling states he cannot play for the new club until the new season starts - worst case 3 weeks from now we get a huge surge in cases and lockdown starts again - he is looking at a few months without wages, plus no dates even set for the new season.
apologies to digress but i cant keep up what players are out of contract come end of june, will we offer them all extensions until end of season ( end of July ) and hope they sign, i suppose if they don't they will have no wages for the foreseeable.
£500/ £750 k signing on fee ?? Not from a possible free transfer ?
its not necessarily the salary, he will get a 500/750k signing on fee - i get why he is doing it, its completely wrong but it makes sense but its a risk for him efl ruling states he cannot play for the new club until the new season starts - worst case 3 weeks from now we get a huge surge in cases and lockdown starts again - he is looking at a few months without wages, plus no dates even set for the new season.
apologies to digress but i cant keep up what players are out of contract come end of june, will we offer them all extensions until end of season ( end of July ) and hope they sign, i suppose if they don't they will have no wages for the foreseeable.
£500/ £750 k signing on fee ?? Not from a possible free transfer ?
Yes it's fairly common that free transfer signings who are wanted by a few clubs are given an extra signing on fee to entice them to join.
If Taylor still had 2 years left on his contract he'd probably cost 4-5m, so a club paying him 750k instead of a 4m transfer fee is nothing.
Out of interest all you proper Charlton Fans with integrity, what do you think the hard done by Lyle Taylor gets paid every week at the Valley ??
I would say in the region of 7K.
Yes I would agree £6000 to £7000 👍👍👍 and he going to get £25K really?
Yet still people do not accept why Taylor has taken the stance he has.
I think everyone accepts what he’s doing is completely wrong (of course if he just didn’t say a word and played the 2-3 games till the end of June and then downed tools everyone would be fuming just as much no doubt ) not everyone accepts why he’s doing it in these unprecedented times did he down tools at Wimbledon with the big move to Charlton ?
The lack of respect from Taylor to the fans as well as colleagues is a disgrace but him looking after number one doesn’t surprise me but let’s all turn a blind eye to Solly
Out of interest all you proper Charlton Fans with integrity, what do you think the hard done by Lyle Taylor gets paid every week at the Valley ??
I would say in the region of 7K.
Yes I would agree £6000 to £7000 👍👍👍 and he going to get £25K really?
Yet still people do not accept why Taylor has taken the stance he has.
I think everyone accepts what he’s doing is completely wrong (of course if he just didn’t say a word and played the 2-3 games till the end of June and then downed tools everyone would be fuming just as much no doubt ) not everyone accepts why he’s doing it in these unprecedented times did he down tools at Wimbledon with the big move to Charlton ?
The lack of disrespect from Taylor to the fans as well as colleagues is a disgrace but him looking after number one doesn’t surprise me but let’s all turn a blind eye to Solly
Out of interest all you proper Charlton Fans with integrity, what do you think the hard done by Lyle Taylor gets paid every week at the Valley ??
I would say in the region of 7K.
Yes I would agree £6000 to £7000 👍👍👍 and he going to get £25K really?
Yet still people do not accept why Taylor has taken the stance he has.
I think everyone accepts what he’s doing is completely wrong (of course if he just didn’t say a word and played the 2-3 games till the end of June and then downed tools everyone would be fuming just as much no doubt ) not everyone accepts why he’s doing it in these unprecedented times did he down tools at Wimbledon with the big move to Charlton ?
The lack of disrespect from Taylor to the fans as well as colleagues is a disgrace but him looking after number one doesn’t surprise me but let’s all turn a blind eye to Solly
Solly is a 2/3rd choice player Taylor is our best player
very very different in terms of importance to the team however I expected better from Chris he might not of even got a game but to come out and say I’m not playing is a joke.
Out of interest all you proper Charlton Fans with integrity, what do you think the hard done by Lyle Taylor gets paid every week at the Valley ??
I would say in the region of 7K.
Yes I would agree £6000 to £7000 👍👍👍 and he going to get £25K really?
Yet still people do not accept why Taylor has taken the stance he has.
I'm pretty sure everyone accepts and understands why he's taken the stance he has - but understanding and acceptance does not necessarily equate with agreement. The vast majority on here, and out there among fans of other clubs and ex-professionals (with the notable exception of Jason Cunty) also take the view that he is wrong and is acting in a totally unprofessional manner, demonstrating zero professional integrity.
He could have walked away at the END of the contract with his head held high and with the best wishes of the Charlton fan base - with thanks, acceptance, understanding AND agreement. He chose not to.
Out of interest all you proper Charlton Fans with integrity, what do you think the hard done by Lyle Taylor gets paid every week at the Valley ??
I would say in the region of 7K.
Yes I would agree £6000 to £7000 👍👍👍 and he going to get £25K really?
Yet still people do not accept why Taylor has taken the stance he has.
This is going over old ground. We all understand and accept why he is doing what he is doing. But the vast majority vehemently disagree with his action.
All I can do is point out again the two most recent examples at Charlton. Both Bauer and Aribo were letting their contracts run down last season. They were both aiming to move on and get much better contracts elsewhere once their contracts expired. They did not down tools for the last few games of the season and funny enough both were involved in the winner at Wembley.
No one is denying Taylor his big payday. Yes, I guess there is a slim chance he might get a career threatening injury but that risk is always there.
Bauer and Aribo will be respected for the way they handled themselves. Taylor won’t. For me it comes down to integrity and values.
Just watched the sky interview with Taylor - pre recorded so no questions could be asked - explained how it’s not been an easy decision to make and “ they make call me whatever, a let down, money grabbing etc but in time I hope they can forgive or maybe that’s too strong, understand why I’ve done this”
he explains how he never thought he would get the opportunity to play at the highest level ( good indicator he’s prem bound ).
i genuinely wish him luck but think it’s a shocking state of affairs, if he had been playing week in week out all season then maybe I could cut him some slack, but he was injured for a long time then covid, the injury took place whilst playing for his country ( which is a choice he is 30 and has 6 caps for them?? ) maybe other clubs he played for wouldn’t of enabled him to afford to play etc.
In his interview he says about being fit in 6-8 weeks, the chances of next season starting before October are slim.
anyway I think he’s made his bed now lie in it, hope it works out but wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t hear much about him again.
I will remember you for letting down the club when you was needed the most. And happily taking a wage when you was injured and you talking shit on social media.
I can't wait to see the back of you. Welcome to the list of hated players
I get where he coming from regarding money, but to be scared of a career threatening injury is BS for not playing, he's let everyone down and I doubt his new teammates will think that highly of him
It’s all about money. He refused to extend his contract with us and previously with Wimbledon so he can negotiate the best deal for him elsewhere. That tactic carries the risk of getting injured and being between contracts.
His choice.
He is not a fan and will be consigned to history as someone who once played for us.
Felt sad reading and seeing it. Half of me respects the honesty and the other half has to think selfishly from our potential relegation without 'main man.' It will be hard to follow his career with much pleasure from here.
The thing is you could get injured at any point in the season. If coronavirus hadn’t have happened he could have got injured in our last game with an anterior cruciate ligament injury and be out for a year!
Plus will any perspective new employers be looking at him and think “his attitude stinks, what if he does the same to us?”.
I feel let down by him, I know Bowyer does from his interview yesterday, and I bet most of his teammates do too.
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only someone who is thick or lacking in integrity
would think Taylor’s actions were fair and decent.
but Taylor despite some of his amusing remarks over the time he has been at Charlton is not that street wise or smart 😂
I would say in the region of 7K.
and he going to get £25K really?
apologies to digress but i cant keep up what players are out of contract come end of june, will we offer them all extensions until end of season ( end of July ) and hope they sign, i suppose if they don't they will have no wages for the foreseeable.
Once the dust has settled he will be forgotten and certainly won’t be on the list of Addicks legends wheeled out onto the pitch in years to come.
Not from a possible free transfer ?
If Taylor still had 2 years left on his contract he'd probably cost 4-5m, so a club paying him 750k instead of a 4m transfer fee is nothing.
not everyone accepts why he’s doing it in these unprecedented times
did he down tools at Wimbledon with the big move to Charlton ?
Taylor is our best player
very very different in terms of importance to the team however I expected better from Chris he might not of even got a game but to come out and say I’m not playing is a joke.
No one is denying Taylor his big payday. Yes, I guess there is a slim chance he might get a career threatening injury but that risk is always there.
he explains how he never thought he would get the opportunity to play at the highest level ( good indicator he’s prem bound ).
i genuinely wish him luck but think it’s a shocking state of affairs, if he had been playing week in week out all season then maybe I could cut him some slack, but he was injured for a long time then covid, the injury took place whilst playing for his country ( which is a choice he is 30 and has 6 caps for them?? ) maybe other clubs he played for wouldn’t of enabled him to afford to play etc.
anyway I think he’s made his bed now lie in it, hope it works out but wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t hear much about him again.
I thought football was about enjoyment. It would also be a good way to warm up and get match fit.
I assumed it's because he might not pass the medical at his new club.
Contract runs out...then he's f****d.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11684/12000157/lyle-taylor-gutted-over-end-to-charlton-athletic-career
I will remember you for letting down the club when you was needed the most. And happily taking a wage when you was injured and you talking shit on social media.
I can't wait to see the back of you. Welcome to the list of hated players
I feel let down by him, I know Bowyer does from his interview yesterday, and I bet most of his teammates do too.