Disagree. Perfectly within his rights not to play after his contract expires. In fact, he would be mad to. Till then, he should play. If the games go as the previous order, the next game is really key to whether we stay up or not.
"Playing for my Country has been an absolute honour this season. Something I always dreamed of but I don't feel it's right that my club now demands things from my dodgy knee, which by the way future clubs, would pass a medical easily." cos I'm Lyle and I can make up the truth.
Selfish cnut and a coward. You leave a club in the position its in that no other club can touch with the crap were dealing with and you just walk away! Money grabbing, no integrity, no respect and no honour... How dare you kiss our badge and say all the right things and then do this... You're no better than Southall. Forgive?? Never... Forget?? Never.
Is it fair to say that he's off your Christmas card list?
Selfish cnut and a coward. You leave a club in the position its in that no other club can touch with the crap were dealing with and you just walk away! Money grabbing, no integrity, no respect and no honour... How dare you kiss our badge and say all the right things and then do this... You're no better than Southall. Forgive?? Never... Forget?? Never.
Is it fair to say that he's off your Christmas card list?
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Whether the fans remember him as a god (Clive Mendonca) or a money grabbing selfish twat the only thing out of the two that will be paying his bills in 5-10-15 years time will be this next contract , yes it’s fucking horrible but fuck him and the way it’s gone but that’s the reality of his situation.
Trouble is Lyle hasnt anticipated the reaction of the Footballing world outside of Charlton Athletic
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Plus and its only a possibility but some opposition defenders may target him deliberately because of what he's said... Silly boy... But you reap what you sew!
Trouble is Lyle hasnt anticipated the reaction of the Footballing world outside of Charlton Athletic
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Plus and its only a possibility but some opposition defenders may target him deliberately because of what he's said... Silly boy... But you reap what you sew!
I think you may be right. If not physically, I can imagine the opposition will certainly be winding him up verbally.
Trouble is Lyle hasnt anticipated the reaction of the Footballing world outside of Charlton Athletic
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Plus and its only a possibility but some opposition defenders may target him deliberately because of what he's said... Silly boy... But you reap what you sew!
I think you may be right. If not physically, I can imagine the opposition will certainly be winding him up verbally.
He asked for understanding or for us to understand his thinking. I do, and I even accept it, as there’s no point in not accepting it. It doesn’t make it right though.
The injury he had has really impacted his thinking and I will take him at his word for that, because I don’t know what it’s like to be in a profession where something like that can be career ending.
The thing I can’t get my head around, is say we were in this position 12 months ago and his contract was coming to an end and based on the season he had last year, lots of bigger clubs were sniffing around. Would he then come back and say I’m not going to play the remaining games given the run we were on and where we were in the promotion picture?
I highly doubt it. It’s all hypothetical I know and there’s been a lot of water under the bridge since last June what with Brentford actually making a bid and Southall/Dutchatelet dicking him around, but for me, we can’t just let footballers picking and choosing which bits of the game and their contracts suit them. I think the governing bodies may introduce a rule about this moving forward, as I can see it happening all over the place now
Trouble is Lyle hasnt anticipated the reaction of the Footballing world outside of Charlton Athletic
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Plus and its only a possibility but some opposition defenders may target him deliberately because of what he's said... Silly boy... But you reap what you sew!
Dont think the opposition winding him up would bother him, nor the thought of opposing fans during games heckling him
We've seen in a lot of games that he feeds off that sort of thing and is a better player for it
I might be wrong though but he doesnt seem an overly influenctial player like Jason Pearce though, most of his strength comes from being loved by the fans and getting adulation
Fail to kick start and he's straight away going to lose that
And if he then moves on as a failure both Managers and Players will see him more as a failure and as someone who didnt honour their contract compared with what he can do
I read it, didn’t believe it, mainly because Lyle doesn’t believe a word of what he’s saying around his thought process, nice bits of theatre to make it sound like a hard decision, when it was one he had made in March
Trouble is Lyle hasnt anticipated the reaction of the Footballing world outside of Charlton Athletic
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Yes, if only he had a professional adviser who understands the wider football world and the bigger picture, instead of seeking and negotiating the move on his own.
I'd never begrudge a player moving for a life changing contract as I and I'm sure all of us would do the same in a heartbeat.
It's just a massive pisstake with the position we are in and our best player refusing to play the games he is contracted to play. It's basically a 'fck you charlton, like I give a shit what happens to your club'.
I see people also saying if it was a normal season being played out, would he stop playing with a few games to go because he is scared to get injured and tbh yes I think he would come out with the same excuse.
Just watched the sky interview with Taylor - pre recorded so no questions could be asked - explained how it’s not been an easy decision to make and “ they make call me whatever, a let down, money grabbing etc but in time I hope they can forgive or maybe that’s too strong, understand why I’ve done this”
he explains how he never thought he would get the opportunity to play at the highest level ( good indicator he’s prem bound ).
i genuinely wish him luck but think it’s a shocking state of affairs, if he had been playing week in week out all season then maybe I could cut him some slack, but he was injured for a long time then covid, the injury took place whilst playing for his country ( which is a choice he is 30 and has 6 caps for them?? ) maybe other clubs he played for wouldn’t of enabled him to afford to play etc.
In his interview he says about being fit in 6-8 weeks, the chances of next season starting before October are slim.
anyway I think he’s made his bed now lie in it, hope it works out but wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t hear much about him again.
Re his comment about playing at the highest level.
If you actually listen to what he says, he talks about playing at the highest level HE can achieve. Doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League.
O-Randy-Hunt said:I see people also saying if it was a normal season being played out, would he stop playing with a few games to go because he is scared to get injured and tbh yes I think he would come out with the same excuse.
Did he down tools at AFC Wimbledon before his move to Charlton or anywhere else in his career ?
O-Randy-Hunt said:I see people also saying if it was a normal season being played out, would he stop playing with a few games to go because he is scared to get injured and tbh yes I think he would come out with the same excuse.
Did he down tools at AFC Wimbledon before his move to Charlton or anywhere else in his career ?
I imagine Lyle's only having sleepless nights because his monstrous ego has taken a bit of a bruising from the wider football world's reaction. He has shown before on social media how sensitive he is to negativity.
It wasn't that long ago that Taylor was going off on one about 'living in a world where you reward those who don't want to work'.
And after happily and quietly being paid whilst injured (on international duty, not whilst playing for Charlton) and whilst Covid-19 paused the season, admittedly neither of which are his fault/choice, he now openly is refusing to play whilst under contract.
His ability to draw attention to himself around a whole myriad of issues/debates becomes a bit hypocritical to say the least.
Just watched the sky interview with Taylor - pre recorded so no questions could be asked - explained how it’s not been an easy decision to make and “ they make call me whatever, a let down, money grabbing etc but in time I hope they can forgive or maybe that’s too strong, understand why I’ve done this”
he explains how he never thought he would get the opportunity to play at the highest level ( good indicator he’s prem bound ).
i genuinely wish him luck but think it’s a shocking state of affairs, if he had been playing week in week out all season then maybe I could cut him some slack, but he was injured for a long time then covid, the injury took place whilst playing for his country ( which is a choice he is 30 and has 6 caps for them?? ) maybe other clubs he played for wouldn’t of enabled him to afford to play etc.
In his interview he says about being fit in 6-8 weeks, the chances of next season starting before October are slim.
anyway I think he’s made his bed now lie in it, hope it works out but wouldn’t be surprised if you don’t hear much about him again.
Re his comment about playing at the highest level.
If you actually listen to what he says, he talks about playing at the highest level HE can achieve. Doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League.
I believe he has probably reached his highest level already - he may possibly be capable of being competitive in a top 6 Championship team but I really don't see him as a Premier League player.
I think what he really means by 'highest level' is 'highest earnings level' - which I haven't got a problem with.
Never thought I would bracket him in the Parker/Defoe/Grant camp. Thought he was a better person than that. Don't have any sympathy either with him not being able to sleep. Ah, diddums.
What makes it even galling is he refers to his knee injury that he picked up whilst playing for Monserat. A injury that meant he missed half the season & one of the reasons why we are now in the bottom 3.
Any decent person would take this into account & say......"do you know what, the club let me go & play in a meaningless fixture & paid me all through the time I couldn't give them my services. Now its time for me to repay them that & to play to the end of my contracted period"
Taylor is a good League 1 player & a half decent Championship player. But look around at the top Championship / bottom Premier League strikers and he is not in that bracket.
Whilst I still have a sliver of hope this has all been a moronic ploy. Clubs looking at him will be massively questioning his character now.
If you watch any professional or have ever been lucky enough to share a pitch with an ex professional the first thing you will see regardless of the level they played at, is their skill level in terms of the ball never bouncing off their shin, the ball rolling under their foot or a corner being shanked. Same with cricketers, what sets professionals apart from very good amateurs is mindset and in a changing room of competitors you need to be able to trust everyone in the room to be willing to fight and stand up. Lyle Taylor will put doubt into the heads of every leader of every club that is looking at him.
The upper end of football, the money people wont give a shit about his character as long as he performs and if he doesn't, a cash rich club, basically anyone in the premier league now will cast him aside
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Too soon?
Is it fair to say that he's off your Christmas card list?
Most fans you read on twitter, most ex-players, even non Footballing sportsmen are saying that he should be honouring his contract
He's taking a bit of a risk hoping that where he goes next, he lands on his feet like he did at Wimbledon
Yeah score a few goals and non-Charlton fans will care less about his actions
If he does a Yann Kermorgant though in the sense that he moves to the Premier League and doesnt cope
The fans then question why he was signed in the first place and gets remembered by more fans that he was the bloke who didnt honour his contract
Short price for a card in his first game!
We've seen in a lot of games that he feeds off that sort of thing and is a better player for it
I might be wrong though but he doesnt seem an overly influenctial player like Jason Pearce though, most of his strength comes from being loved by the fans and getting adulation
Fail to kick start and he's straight away going to lose that
And if he then moves on as a failure both Managers and Players will see him more as a failure and as someone who didnt honour their contract compared with what he can do
It's just a massive pisstake with the position we are in and our best player refusing to play the games he is contracted to play. It's basically a 'fck you charlton, like I give a shit what happens to your club'.
I see people also saying if it was a normal season being played out, would he stop playing with a few games to go because he is scared to get injured and tbh yes I think he would come out with the same excuse.
If you actually listen to what he says, he talks about playing at the highest level HE can achieve. Doesn't necessarily mean the Premier League.
And after happily and quietly being paid whilst injured (on international duty, not whilst playing for Charlton) and whilst Covid-19 paused the season, admittedly neither of which are his fault/choice, he now openly is refusing to play whilst under contract.
His ability to draw attention to himself around a whole myriad of issues/debates becomes a bit hypocritical to say the least.
What makes it even galling is he refers to his knee injury that he picked up whilst playing for Monserat. A injury that meant he missed half the season & one of the reasons why we are now in the bottom 3.
Any decent person would take this into account & say......"do you know what, the club let me go & play in a meaningless fixture & paid me all through the time I couldn't give them my services. Now its time for me to repay them that & to play to the end of my contracted period"
Taylor is a good League 1 player & a half decent Championship player. But look around at the top Championship / bottom Premier League strikers and he is not in that bracket.
If you watch any professional or have ever been lucky enough to share a pitch with an ex professional the first thing you will see regardless of the level they played at, is their skill level in terms of the ball never bouncing off their shin, the ball rolling under their foot or a corner being shanked. Same with cricketers, what sets professionals apart from very good amateurs is mindset and in a changing room of competitors you need to be able to trust everyone in the room to be willing to fight and stand up. Lyle Taylor will put doubt into the heads of every leader of every club that is looking at him.
The upper end of football, the money people wont give a shit about his character as long as he performs and if he doesn't, a cash rich club, basically anyone in the premier league now will cast him aside