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The rise of the vegans.

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  • Very easy to be a vegan in your own home these days, with so many ready made products like vegan Quorn fillets (which I don't like). When my wife cooks she always does the same thing for Tuesday, Weds & Friday: pasta with vegan quorn; stir fry with tofu pieces and a Friday fry up with vegan sausages & chips! I tend to make curries and stews and use up what needs to be used from the fridge/veg rack. I had a big marrow and took off the skin & cut out the seeds, then chopped it up into small pieces and used it as a courgette with broad beans & chopped tomatoes (plus spices of course). I mention this because it really is quite easy to go Vegan.
    Protein is important. I use chick peas or broad beans quite a lot. I buy a Korean can of fried gluten (none of us are allergic).
    Back in the day we had to make our own veggie sausages, or burgers, or stews which we would make for two or three days.

    This is not meant to come across as being a pop but it strikes me that most vegan “alternatives” are bland and tasteless and require a good deal of spicing up in order to make it taste worth eating. For me, and I realise this is just my perception but having to add flavourings to every meal is a little monotonous. When I eat meat I of course sometimes add a sauce but I can easily eat any meat that is just plain grilled. The flavours that I enjoy come from the product not what I need to put on it. A steak or rasher of bacon simply cooked is full of flavour. I don’t want to have to add herbs or spices to everything I eat just to make it palatable.

    Very easy to be a vegan in your own home these days, with so many ready made products like vegan Quorn fillets (which I don't like). When my wife cooks she always does the same thing for Tuesday, Weds & Friday: pasta with vegan quorn; stir fry with tofu pieces and a Friday fry up with vegan sausages & chips! I tend to make curries and stews and use up what needs to be used from the fridge/veg rack. I had a big marrow and took off the skin & cut out the seeds, then chopped it up into small pieces and used it as a courgette with broad beans & chopped tomatoes (plus spices of course). I mention this because it really is quite easy to go Vegan.
    Protein is important. I use chick peas or broad beans quite a lot. I buy a Korean can of fried gluten (none of us are allergic).
    Back in the day we had to make our own veggie sausages, or burgers, or stews which we would make for two or three days.

    This is not meant to come across as being a pop but it strikes me that most vegan “alternatives” are bland and tasteless and require a good deal of spicing up in order to make it taste worth eating. For me, and I realise this is just my perception but having to add flavourings to every meal is a little monotonous. When I eat meat I of course sometimes add a sauce but I can easily eat any meat that is just plain grilled. The flavours that I enjoy come from the product not what I need to put on it. A steak or rasher of bacon simply cooked is full of flavour. I don’t want to have to add herbs or spices to everything I eat just to make it palatable.

    Lacking in texture as well.
  • I do suspect that future generations will look back at the way we treat animals now with horror.

    And how we treat fellow humans as well.

  • I do suspect that future generations will look back at the way we treat animals now with horror.

    I don’t, I think society in general has already peaked and it’s all down hill from here,
  • It seems that non meat eaters that have come out and open are more manly. Ooh does that mean that I'm butch?

    "Dr Emma Roe is a social and cultural geographer often found working in the spaces of transdisciplinary research." i.e research in stuff she is not qualified to research.

    Lists interests as:
    Bodily cultural geographies of human-nonhuman relations
    Commercialisation of the nonhuman: retailing and supply-chain cultures
    Embodied consumption practices /Embodied stockperson practices
    Farm animal welfare
    Cross-species comparison of ethical practices of consent and welfare in clinical drug trials.

    So pretentious vegan geography graduate who hasn't made professor yet, does subjective research without any academic peer review to prove a fatuous hypothesis to further vegan propaganda pushed out as an authoritative piece of academic research - as authoritative as a Sun reader survey.

    Useful only to maintain the noise in the vegan echo chamber.

    Countryfile yesterday had a feature on an Isle of Sheppy farmer who converted thousands of acres of disused land formerly growing wheat, into a saltmarsh creating a unique habitat for wading birds and other wildlife. Cattle are reared to maintain the salt marsh grass to the natural level required for the wildlife and the cattle are sold on for turning into beef.

    If vegan pseudo academics, who know the outcome of their research before they start, could bring themselves to acknowledge that there are good and bad points about farming animals and eating meat, research might at least be taken seriously.

    On the other hand it might get exposed as a lifestyle cult based on a disconnect with nature which carefully avoids recognition that the problems they identify are caused through too many humans, not too many humans eating meat.
    Easily solved then. We all become cannibals.
  • Not sure what this has to do with thread but tbf I've read very little of it.

    Knee jerk regulation/law that almost definitely won't be enacted. If it were to be, the rodent infestation will cause a rapid reversal.

    I have sympathy with the objective though. I've had lots of cats, one was a problem to the wildlife, I put a bell on its collar and made sure he didn't go out after dusk. Problem solved.
  • True, tofu, and Vegan quorn is pretty bland, so you mix it with tomatoes, onions, peppers, mushrooms etc. and then it is more than okay. Seriously, I have never had any complaints about my home made cooking from meat eating mates. Even the Millwall one complimented me on the vegan shepherds pie!
  • Not sure what this has to do with thread but tbf I've read very little of it.

    Knee jerk regulation/law that almost definitely won't be enacted. If it were to be, the rodent infestation will cause a rapid reversal.

    I have sympathy with the objective though. I've had lots of cats, one was a problem to the wildlife, I put a bell on its collar and made sure he didn't go out after dusk. Problem solved.
    I've not read the last few hundred posts tbh honest mate.

    This was just something I recently read and I thought I'd share it on here for a bit of balance, rather than start another non football related thread
  • [A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]

    More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
    Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.


    https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852
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  • [A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]

    More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
    Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.


    https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852

    I think there ought to be a name and shame for the outlets involved in this. Until retailers are forced to take ownership of their problem then little will change.

  • [A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]

    More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
    Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.


    https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852

    This isn’t a pisstake.....but I assume that they do similar tests on non meat products?!?
  • [A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]

    More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
    Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.


    https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852

    I'd be more put out if they'd discovered meat substitutes as opposed to other meats.
  • Stevelamb said:

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    You really are not helping your argument at all are you. Posting the above is just a troll to get a reaction.
  • edited September 2018

    Stevelamb said:

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    You really are not helping your argument at all are you. Posting the above is just a troll to get a reaction.
    It's because he's he acts like a cnut doughnut when it comes to discussing food.
  • Quorn is mould

    Doesn’t progress the discussion does it.
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  • Dazzler21 said:

    Stevelamb said:

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    You really are not helping your argument at all are you. Posting the above is just a troll to get a reaction.
    It's because he's a cnut when it comes to discussing food.
    Amended back again...
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Stevelamb said:

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    You really are not helping your argument at all are you. Posting the above is just a troll to get a reaction.
    It's because he's a cnut when it comes to discussing food.
    Amended back again...
  • edited September 2018
    Why don’t vegan women moan during sex? Because they don’t want to admit a peice of meat made them happy
  • Definitely having 2 Big Macs tonight and 20 McNuggets now.

    Mmmmmmmm Lovin it
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