The rise of the vegans.
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An animal that kills millions of birds and small mammals every year.Stevelamb said:.
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Never sure why this bothers people, like the whole horsemeat 'scandal' i couldn't give a shit if its horse meat, if its tasty then crack on!Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-453718521 -
Big_Bad_World said:
I'd be more put out if they'd discovered meat substitutes as opposed to other meats.Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45371852
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Food Standards Agency meat sampling... 'Some samples contained DNA from as many as four different animals, while others contained no trace of the meat that appeared on the product's label'
It's about a lack of authenticity and truth, is it not?
Whatever it is that one wishes to eat (be that meat, or not meat) should it not be the case that the consumer receives what is advertised - and not something else?
Some food producers have more integrity than others. The sad and unpalatable situation that exists is that animals destined for food are mashed up into bits and the bits are mixed together and passed off, by some, as being 'X' when, in fact, they are either 'X plus whatever', or not 'X' at all.
I'm happy to avoid the meat and dairy trade and hope that what I purchase to eat is wholesome and is what it claims to be.1 -
Surely you mean walk on?Pelling1993 said:
Never sure why this bothers people, like the whole horsemeat 'scandal' i couldn't give a shit if its horse meat, if its tasty then crack on!Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-453718521 -
I'm guessing it might be horsemeat. It does sound like the producers are trying to get away with it by adding whatever the 'rogue' meat is to stronger tasting meat. Mind you, I didn't know people ate goat in the UK.Pelling1993 said:
Never sure why this bothers people, like the whole horsemeat 'scandal' i couldn't give a shit if its horse meat, if its tasty then crack on!Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-453718520 -
Goat is delicious! A lovely curried goat with rice & peasArsenetatters said:
I'm guessing it might be horsemeat. It does sound like the producers are trying to get away with it by adding whatever the 'rogue' meat is to stronger tasting meat. Mind you, I didn't know people ate goat in the UK.Pelling1993 said:
Never sure why this bothers people, like the whole horsemeat 'scandal' i couldn't give a shit if its horse meat, if its tasty then crack on!Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-453718522 -
Will going vegan make you healthier?
By Dr Michael Mosley
BBC, 5 September 2018
Will going vegan make you healthier?
A recent analysis, which pulled together the results of 10 previous studies comparing the health of vegetarian and vegans against that of omnivores, suggests it will.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/health-454094710 -
Since vegans are likely to be more health conscious than the general population, it is possible that the health differences have nothing to do with the diet itself.Anna_Kissed said:Will going vegan make you healthier?
By Dr Michael Mosley
BBC, 5 September 2018
Will going vegan make you healthier?
A recent analysis, which pulled together the results of 10 previous studies comparing the health of vegetarian and vegans against that of omnivores, suggests it will.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/health-454094710 -
I'm pretty healthy already thanks.Anna_Kissed said:Will going vegan make you healthier?
By Dr Michael Mosley
BBC, 5 September 2018
Will going vegan make you healthier?
A recent analysis, which pulled together the results of 10 previous studies comparing the health of vegetarian and vegans against that of omnivores, suggests it will.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/health-45409471
I don't need to live to 100 to be happy. I enjoy meat as part of my diet and it appears in 2/3 meals a day.0 - Sponsored links:
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The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.2 -
From the article:Dazzler21 said:
I'm pretty healthy already thanks.Anna_Kissed said:Will going vegan make you healthier?
By Dr Michael Mosley
BBC, 5 September 2018
Will going vegan make you healthier?
A recent analysis, which pulled together the results of 10 previous studies comparing the health of vegetarian and vegans against that of omnivores, suggests it will.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/health-45409471
I don't need to live to 100 to be happy. I enjoy meat as part of my diet and it appears in 2/3 meals a day.
In other words, being a vegetarian or vegan was associated with being healthier but not necessarily with living longer.0 -
I doubt there's any carnivores on this thread. Omnivores sure...seth plum said:The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.0 -
Fair point.Dazzler21 said:
I doubt there's any carnivores on this thread. Omnivores sure...seth plum said:The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.0 -
Good news. I seriously don't want to live to 100 and become a hinderance on others. And I want to continue to eat the animals I define as food (typical Farmed Animals).Scoham said:
From the article:Dazzler21 said:
I'm pretty healthy already thanks.Anna_Kissed said:Will going vegan make you healthier?
By Dr Michael Mosley
BBC, 5 September 2018
Will going vegan make you healthier?
A recent analysis, which pulled together the results of 10 previous studies comparing the health of vegetarian and vegans against that of omnivores, suggests it will.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/health-45409471
I don't need to live to 100 to be happy. I enjoy meat as part of my diet and it appears in 2/3 meals a day.
In other words, being a vegetarian or vegan was associated with being healthier but not necessarily with living longer.0 -
It’s not about being right or wrong though is it Seth. I’m not right for eating meat and I’m not wrong either. What is wrong is the evangelical preaching and I’ll go as far as to say bullying tactics by the Vegan activists putting up pictures of what they think will shock me into thinking I’m wrong.seth plum said:The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.
I wouldn’t presume to try to coerce anyone to eating meat and it pisses me right off when people try to coerce and bully me into giving meat up.
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I've only just re-opened this thread and needed to catch up on a couple of hundred posts. I found it quite disappointing really. As someone who believes that there are valid arguments to be had on both sides of the debate, it doesn't look although anyone is open to to discussion.seth plum said:The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.1 -
From Dr Mosley's article:
For the latest series of Trust Me I'm A Doctor, Dr Giles Yeo decided to try it [a vegan diet] for a month and see if it was a lifestyle he could imagine adopting.
So how did Dr Yeo get on? After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
So will he keep it up? "I've been pleasantly surprised," he said, "and though I don't plan to go vegan entirely, from now on I'll try and do at least a few days every month.
"I have to admit I was apprehensive about going vegan for a month, but once I learned a few recipes I was fine and I actually ended up enjoying it. For me, the key was not to cook vegan versions of meals that I would normally eat with meat, but to opt for recipes that were designed to be vegan in the first place.0 -
trot on, surely?DaveMehmet said:
Surely you mean walk on?Pelling1993 said:
Never sure why this bothers people, like the whole horsemeat 'scandal' i couldn't give a shit if its horse meat, if its tasty then crack on!Anna_Kissed said:[A report by BBC News, 5th Sept 2018]
More than a fifth of meat sample tests in 2017 found DNA from animals not on the labelling, the BBC has learned.
Out of 665 results from England, Wales and Northern Ireland collected by the Food Standards Agency, 145 were partly or wholly made up of unspecified meat.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-453718520 -
Put everything up he said for a fair reflection.Anna_Kissed said:From Dr Mosley's article:
For the latest series of Trust Me I'm A Doctor, Dr Giles Yeo decided to try it [a vegan diet] for a month and see if it was a lifestyle he could imagine adopting.
So how did Dr Yeo get on? After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
So will he keep it up? "I've been pleasantly surprised," he said, "and though I don't plan to go vegan entirely, from now on I'll try and do at least a few days every month.
"I have to admit I was apprehensive about going vegan for a month, but once I learned a few recipes I was fine and I actually ended up enjoying it. For me, the key was not to cook vegan versions of meals that I would normally eat with meat, but to opt for recipes that were designed to be vegan in the first place.
Still waiting for a reply to the life expectancy/fish diet conundrum.
But I appreciate its more difficult to deal with inconvenient facts than trite pseudo babble nonsense.0 - Sponsored links:
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Not really taken much notice of this thread as i assumed it would be anti vegan. It was going well until recently - then the anti meat gifs are posted and us vegans get tarred with the same brush.ShootersHillGuru said:
It’s not about being right or wrong though is it Seth. I’m not right for eating meat and I’m not wrong either. What is wrong is the evangelical preaching and I’ll go as far as to say bullying tactics by the Vegan activists putting up pictures of what they think will shock me into thinking I’m wrong.seth plum said:The thread is so predictable.
Despite that I feel vegans and vegetarians are right in a 'thou shalt not kill' sense, carnivores and omnivores are going to pile in, and they have the numbers.
It's like Dulwich Hamlet Ultras taking on Lech Poznan.
With this issue I wouldn't say might is right, but it is easily the loudest.
No good being evangelical, carnivores won't be shifted, and in my view the more we try, the more that animals suffer with a kind of vengeful relish.
I wouldn’t presume to try to coerce anyone to eating meat and it pisses me right off when people try to coerce and bully me into giving meat up.
I'm vegan, except that I eat eggs only from my own free range, rescued hens. I don't attempt to convert the meat eaters - Mr Tatters is a meat eater. All I want is to live my life as authentically as I can, according to my own ethics. I think it's great when meat eaters/ veggies/ vegans can debate stuff but trying to convert each other in this way doesn't go well.10 -
I watched that programme. Yes the vegan diet he ate seemed healthy, though it was only for a short period of time so we don't know any long term side affects.Anna_Kissed said:From Dr Mosley's article:
For the latest series of Trust Me I'm A Doctor, Dr Giles Yeo decided to try it [a vegan diet] for a month and see if it was a lifestyle he could imagine adopting.
So how did Dr Yeo get on? After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
So will he keep it up? "I've been pleasantly surprised," he said, "and though I don't plan to go vegan entirely, from now on I'll try and do at least a few days every month.
"I have to admit I was apprehensive about going vegan for a month, but once I learned a few recipes I was fine and I actually ended up enjoying it. For me, the key was not to cook vegan versions of meals that I would normally eat with meat, but to opt for recipes that were designed to be vegan in the first place.
And he wasn't doing it for evangelical reasons. There's a big difference for example between someone giving up alcohol for personal health purposes, and someone thinking that alcohol is evil and unnatural, and that nobody should drink alcohol.
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This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.1 -
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.1 -
My LDL cholesterol is 1.9 so my doctor reluctantly agreed to remove statins from my prescription without finding out why it dropped so much. That was 6 months ago.Arsenetatters said:
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.
Last week my doctor had to remove all my other prescription medications (not that I had been taking them) including blood pressure and diabetes medications because my readings had returned to normal. My doctor did not even want to know how I had done this in fact she seemed almost disappointed that I had proved her wrong because she said to me a year ago that is was not possible to reverse diabetes. So by way of eating whole food plant based nutrition I have reversed my diabetes, cholesterol levels and high blood pressure lost over three stone so my BMI is now 21.3, I no longer have spots on my back, hemorrhoid's, bleeding gums, receding hair, joint pain, tiredness, constipation or upset stomachs, cracking finger nails, indigestion, brewers droop, receding gums and have more energy and sleep better.
Doctors do not learn about nutrition and are only just slowly beginning to understand that it is far better to treat the cause than the symptoms. All I am trying to do on here is get this message over to you, sure I know I will take a lot of stick on a football forum for trying and I know it will be difficult. Three years ago I would of been one of the people on here doing just that. No way three years ago would I ever of considered giving up meat, eggs and dairy, no way, but I am bloody glad I did. My medical record over the last three years is proof enough for me and all I am trying to do is tell others that you can be much healthier without prescription drugs
by changing your diet. It is not about living longer but living a better life free from the ailments that come with age caused by the western diet. I have been asked to do a few talks by diabetes groups about how I have managed to reverse my diabetes and have come up against the same arguments from them as I have on here but some do grasp it and now I can present my medical history to back up what I am trying to say. It was a great feeling going for my dental check last week when asked by the dentist if my drugs had changed.
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Some of that is bollocks. I can categorically state that not all of the health benefits you are currently seeing are remotely due to your vegan diet. I accept that some probably are. I would suggest that your previous health problems were far from the norm for anyone. Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question.Stevelamb said:
My LDL cholesterol is 1.9 so my doctor reluctantly agreed to remove statins from my prescription without finding out why it dropped so much. That was 6 months ago.Arsenetatters said:
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.
Last week my doctor had to remove all my other prescription medications (not that I had been taking them) including blood pressure and diabetes medications because my readings had returned to normal. My doctor did not even want to know how I had done this in fact she seemed almost disappointed that I had proved her wrong because she said to me a year ago that is was not possible to reverse diabetes. So by way of eating whole food plant based nutrition I have reversed my diabetes, cholesterol levels and high blood pressure lost over three stone so my BMI is now 21.3, I no longer have spots on my back, hemorrhoid's, bleeding gums, receding hair, joint pain, tiredness, constipation or upset stomachs, cracking finger nails, indigestion, brewers droop, receding gums and have more energy and sleep better.
Doctors do not learn about nutrition and are only just slowly beginning to understand that it is far better to treat the cause than the symptoms. All I am trying to do on here is get this message over to you, sure I know I will take a lot of stick on a football forum for trying and I know it will be difficult. Three years ago I would of been one of the people on here doing just that. No way three years ago would I ever of considered giving up meat, eggs and dairy, no way, but I am bloody glad I did. My medical record over the last three years is proof enough for me and all I am trying to do is tell others that you can be much healthier without prescription drugs
by changing your diet. It is not about living longer but living a better life free from the ailments that come with age caused by the western diet. I have been asked to do a few talks by diabetes groups about how I have managed to reverse my diabetes and have come up against the same arguments from them as I have on here but some do grasp it and now I can present my medical history to back up what I am trying to say. It was a great feeling going for my dental check last week when asked by the dentist if my drugs had changed.
Perhaps most importantly from your post is you suggesting that people can be healthier without prescription drugs. It’s a dangerous and completely irresponsible thing to put out there.
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"Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question."ShootersHillGuru said:
Some of that is bollocks. I can categorically state that not all of the health benefits you are currently seeing are remotely due to your vegan diet. I accept that some probably are. I would suggest that your previous health problems were far from the norm for anyone. Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question.Stevelamb said:
My LDL cholesterol is 1.9 so my doctor reluctantly agreed to remove statins from my prescription without finding out why it dropped so much. That was 6 months ago.Arsenetatters said:
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.
Last week my doctor had to remove all my other prescription medications (not that I had been taking them) including blood pressure and diabetes medications because my readings had returned to normal. My doctor did not even want to know how I had done this in fact she seemed almost disappointed that I had proved her wrong because she said to me a year ago that is was not possible to reverse diabetes. So by way of eating whole food plant based nutrition I have reversed my diabetes, cholesterol levels and high blood pressure lost over three stone so my BMI is now 21.3, I no longer have spots on my back, hemorrhoid's, bleeding gums, receding hair, joint pain, tiredness, constipation or upset stomachs, cracking finger nails, indigestion, brewers droop, receding gums and have more energy and sleep better.
Doctors do not learn about nutrition and are only just slowly beginning to understand that it is far better to treat the cause than the symptoms. All I am trying to do on here is get this message over to you, sure I know I will take a lot of stick on a football forum for trying and I know it will be difficult. Three years ago I would of been one of the people on here doing just that. No way three years ago would I ever of considered giving up meat, eggs and dairy, no way, but I am bloody glad I did. My medical record over the last three years is proof enough for me and all I am trying to do is tell others that you can be much healthier without prescription drugs
by changing your diet. It is not about living longer but living a better life free from the ailments that come with age caused by the western diet. I have been asked to do a few talks by diabetes groups about how I have managed to reverse my diabetes and have come up against the same arguments from them as I have on here but some do grasp it and now I can present my medical history to back up what I am trying to say. It was a great feeling going for my dental check last week when asked by the dentist if my drugs had changed.
Perhaps most importantly from your post is you suggesting that people can be healthier without prescription drugs. It’s a dangerous and completely irresponsible thing to put out there.
Unbelievable, just unbelievable.
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Like most of your posts, ya troll.Stevelamb said:
"Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question."ShootersHillGuru said:
Some of that is bollocks. I can categorically state that not all of the health benefits you are currently seeing are remotely due to your vegan diet. I accept that some probably are. I would suggest that your previous health problems were far from the norm for anyone. Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question.Stevelamb said:
My LDL cholesterol is 1.9 so my doctor reluctantly agreed to remove statins from my prescription without finding out why it dropped so much. That was 6 months ago.Arsenetatters said:
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.
Last week my doctor had to remove all my other prescription medications (not that I had been taking them) including blood pressure and diabetes medications because my readings had returned to normal. My doctor did not even want to know how I had done this in fact she seemed almost disappointed that I had proved her wrong because she said to me a year ago that is was not possible to reverse diabetes. So by way of eating whole food plant based nutrition I have reversed my diabetes, cholesterol levels and high blood pressure lost over three stone so my BMI is now 21.3, I no longer have spots on my back, hemorrhoid's, bleeding gums, receding hair, joint pain, tiredness, constipation or upset stomachs, cracking finger nails, indigestion, brewers droop, receding gums and have more energy and sleep better.
Doctors do not learn about nutrition and are only just slowly beginning to understand that it is far better to treat the cause than the symptoms. All I am trying to do on here is get this message over to you, sure I know I will take a lot of stick on a football forum for trying and I know it will be difficult. Three years ago I would of been one of the people on here doing just that. No way three years ago would I ever of considered giving up meat, eggs and dairy, no way, but I am bloody glad I did. My medical record over the last three years is proof enough for me and all I am trying to do is tell others that you can be much healthier without prescription drugs
by changing your diet. It is not about living longer but living a better life free from the ailments that come with age caused by the western diet. I have been asked to do a few talks by diabetes groups about how I have managed to reverse my diabetes and have come up against the same arguments from them as I have on here but some do grasp it and now I can present my medical history to back up what I am trying to say. It was a great feeling going for my dental check last week when asked by the dentist if my drugs had changed.
Perhaps most importantly from your post is you suggesting that people can be healthier without prescription drugs. It’s a dangerous and completely irresponsible thing to put out there.
Unbelievable, just unbelievable.4 -
Bleeding an receding gums, high cholesterol, High blood pressure, spotty back, haemorrhoids, joint pain, upset stomach, tiredness, cracked finger nails, constipation, BMI issues and erectile dysfunction.Stevelamb said:
"Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question."ShootersHillGuru said:
Some of that is bollocks. I can categorically state that not all of the health benefits you are currently seeing are remotely due to your vegan diet. I accept that some probably are. I would suggest that your previous health problems were far from the norm for anyone. Your previous lifestyle should perhaps be called into question.Stevelamb said:
My LDL cholesterol is 1.9 so my doctor reluctantly agreed to remove statins from my prescription without finding out why it dropped so much. That was 6 months ago.Arsenetatters said:
I have highish cholesterol. The GP told me that the largest factor in this is heredity and altering diet only accounts for about 10% - which would be the case here.Dazzler21 said:
This weight loss is a calorie deficit nothing to do with being vegan.Anna_Kissed said:After being vegan for a month he had lost 4kg and brought in his belt by a notch. Along with the fall in his belly fat, his cholesterol also fell by 12%.
The cholesterol is probably quite a lot to do with being a vegan.
Last week my doctor had to remove all my other prescription medications (not that I had been taking them) including blood pressure and diabetes medications because my readings had returned to normal. My doctor did not even want to know how I had done this in fact she seemed almost disappointed that I had proved her wrong because she said to me a year ago that is was not possible to reverse diabetes. So by way of eating whole food plant based nutrition I have reversed my diabetes, cholesterol levels and high blood pressure lost over three stone so my BMI is now 21.3, I no longer have spots on my back, hemorrhoid's, bleeding gums, receding hair, joint pain, tiredness, constipation or upset stomachs, cracking finger nails, indigestion, brewers droop, receding gums and have more energy and sleep better.
Doctors do not learn about nutrition and are only just slowly beginning to understand that it is far better to treat the cause than the symptoms. All I am trying to do on here is get this message over to you, sure I know I will take a lot of stick on a football forum for trying and I know it will be difficult. Three years ago I would of been one of the people on here doing just that. No way three years ago would I ever of considered giving up meat, eggs and dairy, no way, but I am bloody glad I did. My medical record over the last three years is proof enough for me and all I am trying to do is tell others that you can be much healthier without prescription drugs
by changing your diet. It is not about living longer but living a better life free from the ailments that come with age caused by the western diet. I have been asked to do a few talks by diabetes groups about how I have managed to reverse my diabetes and have come up against the same arguments from them as I have on here but some do grasp it and now I can present my medical history to back up what I am trying to say. It was a great feeling going for my dental check last week when asked by the dentist if my drugs had changed.
Perhaps most importantly from your post is you suggesting that people can be healthier without prescription drugs. It’s a dangerous and completely irresponsible thing to put out there.
Unbelievable, just unbelievable.
Please tell me which part of those are unbelievable in suggesting your previous lifestyle was suspect and now have all miraculously disappeared due to eating lettuce.
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You must've pulled untold birds back in the day Stevo10
