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The rise of the vegans.

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  • edited January 2019
    jamescafc said:



    Be keen to hear about any decent vegans recipes if possible. Too often after a busy day at work, I end up eating a falafel or halloumi wrap for dinner and want to add a bit more variety.

    'Have you tried making giant batches of stuff and keeping them in the freezer, you can then just pop something in the microwave after a busy day, but still have a healthy delicious homecooked meal.

    I do it with bolognase, chilli, curry, stews and dumplings all of which have veggie/vegan options.

    Yesterday I spent an hour making dumplings, now we have loads of easy breakfast just sitting in the freezer.
  • I’ve tried it before with curries and pasta dishes and always find it tastes a bit crap once defrosted.

    We have a big Asian community at work and they’ve tried getting me to eat rice, noodles and dumplings for breakfast and I just can’t get my head around it.
  • I can't handle rice for breakfast, but my wife and I eat a rough 50/50 split between Chinese and western breakfast.

    I agree pasta doesn't freeze well.
  • jamescafc said:

    I’ve tried it before with curries and pasta dishes and always find it tastes a bit crap once defrosted.

    We have a big Asian community at work and they’ve tried getting me to eat rice, noodles and dumplings for breakfast and I just can’t get my head around it.

    Investigate Indian breakfasts. Dosa etc.
  • A vegan friend of mine posted a short film on Fb about 10 famous vegetarians from history. I pointed out (in a jovial style) that they left out a little Austrian bloke with a funny moustache, to which he replied that he wasn't a veggie at all and that he ate meat in secret (a dubious claim from what a quick check on t'internet could glean). So I said - again pointing out that I was playing devil's advocate - how did he know the others on the film didn't eat meat in secret too? At which point he went totally po-faced and got a bit shirty about the whole thing. That's my only problem with (some) veggies and vegans, they seem to have a sense of humour loss when you have a bit of "banter" about their lifestyle choice. I'm all for it anyway - anything that pisses off Piers Morgan is alright by me.
  • @jamescafc I’d recommend buying the vegan cookery book by Bosh, the have a vlog as well and I’ve made a few of their recipes and they are fairly easy, not too many am ingredients and taste amazing.
  • A vegan friend of mine posted a short film on Fb about 10 famous vegetarians from history. I pointed out (in a jovial style) that they left out a little Austrian bloke with a funny moustache, to which he replied that he wasn't a veggie at all and that he ate meat in secret (a dubious claim from what a quick check on t'internet could glean). So I said - again pointing out that I was playing devil's advocate - how did he know the others on the film didn't eat meat in secret too? At which point he went totally po-faced and got a bit shirty about the whole thing. That's my only problem with (some) veggies and vegans, they seem to have a sense of humour loss when you have a bit of "banter" about their lifestyle choice. I'm all for it anyway - anything that pisses off Piers Morgan is alright by me.

    Dave Berry pointed out the other day that Gregg's and piers share a publicist. Outraged on demand, who'd have thought it.
  • Here is a positive little article about vegan food, by Anna Jones:

    The Guardian, 12th January
    How I cook vegan for my family
    Vegan cookery can be a challenge for meat-eaters, and even vegetarians, at first.
    Here are my tips to make it easy and fun...

    https://theguardian.com/food/2019/jan/08/vegan-cuisine-cooking-for-family-vegetarians-anna-jones
  • The above link does inadvertently raise an interesting point, which is there are simply no substitutes for a lot of non-vegan ingredients. There must be some balance between sustainable food production and 100s of years worth of culinary traditions and culture that vegans and non-vegans can be happy with.
  • @jamescafc I’d recommend buying the vegan cookery book by Bosh, the have a vlog as well and I’ve made a few of their recipes and they are fairly easy, not too many am ingredients and taste amazing.

    Cheers Neil, will give it a go. Eating far too much Mexican type food and getting quite fat.
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  • I work at World Animal Protection, our latest pecking order report has been issued for those interested in the welfare of Chickens
    https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/sites/default/files/int_files/the_pecking_order_full_report.pdf?_ga=2.61317996.1382864517.1547459651-2110637799.1547459651
  • What's the difference between Domino's inc and dominos plc?
  • Fiiish said:

    The above link does inadvertently raise an interesting point, which is there are simply no substitutes for a lot of non-vegan ingredients. There must be some balance between sustainable food production and 100s of years worth of culinary traditions and culture that vegans and non-vegans can be happy with.

    There's no such thing as sustainable food production, there's too many of us!
  • kimbo said:

    I work at World Animal Protection, our latest pecking order report has been issued for those interested in the welfare of Chickens
    https://www.worldanimalprotection.org/sites/default/files/int_files/the_pecking_order_full_report.pdf?_ga=2.61317996.1382864517.1547459651-2110637799.1547459651

    Interesting and depressing reading @kimbo.
  • This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?
  • This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?

    Idiocy.
    Nice lady but is from Lancashire so that may explain it .
  • i'm still in shock that someone compared eating meat to slavery.......
  • This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?

    Turfatarian
  • i'm still in shock that someone compared eating meat to slavery.......

    Eating meat gets compared to everything, slavery, peadophilia, the holocaust, murder and so on.
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  • This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?

    How about Terra-firmaism ?
  • This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?

    Flying fish a definite no-no then?

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  • bobmunro said:

    This is a new one on me.
    A friend of my mum's won't eat anything that swims or tries to fly ?
    Fish, duck, Turkey or chicken, but will eat beef, pork, lamb etc.
    There should be a name for this ?

    Flying fish a definite no-no then?

    image
    A double negative, perhaps?
  • What about oysters?
  • What about oysters?

    So whats a Goblin?
  • New plant-focused diet would ‘transform’ planet’s future, say scientists
    ‘Planetary health diet’ would prevent millions of deaths a year and avoid climate change


    Damian Carrington, Environment editor, The Guardian
    16 January 2019

    The first science-based diet that tackles both the poor food eaten by billions of people and averts global environmental catastrophe has been devised. It requires huge cuts in red meat-eating in western countries and radical changes across the world.

    The “planetary health diet” was created by an international commission seeking to draw up guidelines that provide nutritious food to the world’s fast-growing population. At the same time, the diet addresses the major role of farming – especially livestock – in driving climate change, the destruction of wildlife and the pollution of rivers and oceans.

    Globally, the diet requires red meat and sugar consumption to be cut by half, while vegetables, fruit, pulses and nuts must double. But in specific places the changes are stark. North Americans need to eat 84% less red meat but six times more beans and lentils. For Europeans, eating 77% less red meat and 15 times more nuts and seeds meets the guidelines.

    The diet is a “win-win”, according to the scientists, as it would save at least 11 million people a year from deaths caused by unhealthy food, while preventing the collapse of the natural world that humanity depends upon. With 10 billion people expected to live on Earth by 2050, a continuation of today’s unsustainable diets would inevitably mean even greater health problems and severe global warming.


    https://theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/16/new-plant-focused-diet-would-transform-planets-future-say-scientists
  • Had a couple more of the M&S new range of vegan food.

    Very good if you don’t have or don’t make time to cook your own lunch.

    1 pot at £2.50 is enough for me with fruit for lunch. Bigger eaters would need 2 pots. Decent range though and a good effort from M&S
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