Yeah, I think you have to be very careful if you have dietary issues of any sort, eating in most establishments that serve the thing you have an issue (allergy or ethical) with.
I’m disappointed that there isn’t a picture of them looking all mournful and green around the gills as is usual in stories like this. However the point remains that a mistake like this can only be made if the establishment offers meaty wares. Burger King, for example, allegedly cook their vegan options on the same surfaces as their meat products. Aside from the very real possibility of cross-contamination, by choosing to go to BK, KFC etc I would still be giving money to a company that makes their money, primarily, from the exploitation and slaughter of animals which I can’t support in any way.
edit: I appreciate that the risk of cross contamination if I go to a restaurant that also sells meat but my point is my local Indian hasn’t marketed itself as a meat-centric business like MaccyDs etc have for decades.
Some fake meats are SO realistic that I can understand them not really knowing. When I first went back to the UK after 3 years, I was astounded at how the fakes had advanced. I mean, have you tried that mock crispy duck??
Regarding the whole cross contamination thing, it depends on context and motivation. If you’re plant-based for eco reasons for example maybe having your food fried in the same oil as meat doesn’t matter so much. Also, where I live, if I only went to exclusively vegan places to eat, I’d have the choice of about 4 places (in a city of 10m). I can’t afford to be so strict!
Similarly, I don’t mind spending money on vegan products in meaty food outlets because it generally raises awareness and can be a way for people who wouldn’t normally try vegan food to see how good it can be.
My son had one and said it was lovely. He did say though that the guy in the shop warned him off of having chips with it because they are cooked in the same fat as the chicken.
Correct, on their little vegan sheet they posted they confirmed that the chips aren't vegan (or even veggie) because they're cooked in the same oil as their popcorn chicken
Why they can't be posted in the same oil as the vegan burger is another issue...
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Impossible meat is everywhere in Hong Kong at the moment. If it's on the menu I'll always order it, even though I'm not a vegetarian. I actually find I have an impossible burger and not a beef burger at lunch, I don't feel like taking a 3-hour nap when I get back to the office. It's a surprisingly light feeling.
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A lot of veggie or vegan 'versions' of meat are pretty shit, but there are some absolute gems out there if you know where to look. There's a company called Wicked Kitchen and they do two things that are absolutely mint - a mac & cheese, which tastes great and is actually passably close to' real' cheese, and jalapeño grillers - which look like burgers and are *literally* the best thing I've discovered since trying out a lot of the 'convenience' vegan alternatives.
One of my vices prior to stopping eating meat was a filthy, probably containing human, Donner kebab.
A company called vivera so a plant based Greek kebab and one called shawarma kebab and they changed the game. 5 minutes in a frying pan and into the pitta with chilli sauce it goes. Morrisons do it for 2.50 a pack asda and sainsburys it's about 3 quid.
The only vivera stuff I havent liked is the bacon pieces but apparently i was cooking them wrong, they need to be dry fried in the pan first then have some oil added after it goes crispy
One of my vices prior to stopping eating meat was a filthy, probably containing human, Donner kebab.
A company called vivera so a plant based Greek kebab and one called shawarma kebab and they changed the game. 5 minutes in a frying pan and into the pitta with chilli sauce it goes. Morrisons do it for 2.50 a pack asda and sainsburys it's about 3 quid.
The only vivera stuff I havent liked is the bacon pieces but apparently i was cooking them wrong, they need to be dry fried in the pan first then have some oil added after it goes crispy
Yep, have it once a week but with rice or quinoa instead of the bread. Tastes so good you'd literally be hard pressed to tell the difference
One of my vices prior to stopping eating meat was a filthy, probably containing human, Donner kebab.
A company called vivera so a plant based Greek kebab and one called shawarma kebab and they changed the game. 5 minutes in a frying pan and into the pitta with chilli sauce it goes. Morrisons do it for 2.50 a pack asda and sainsburys it's about 3 quid.
The only vivera stuff I havent liked is the bacon pieces but apparently i was cooking them wrong, they need to be dry fried in the pan first then have some oil added after it goes crispy
Yep, have it once a week but with rice or quinoa instead of the bread. Tastes so good you'd literally be hard pressed to tell the difference
Love it. I make a proper kebab with it, pitta, shredded veg, garlic and chilli sauce. Would actually choose it as a dinner.
Did the bacon bits in a carbonara pre January and was really good, if a little fiddly making them smaller in the pan. Good tip on dry frying.
I’ve been fairly open minded about all this since this thread began. I’m always keen to give new things a go and it has got me thinking a bit more about things I don’t generally give any thought to.
So this thread has definitely helped make me more educated (even avoiding all of Anna’s link spamming).
I’ve also learned though that:
1 - A vegan diet does not automatically mean a healthier diet. Indeed, it probably leads you more down the processed food line with the big expansion of ready meal availability
2. It’s not for me. There’s just too many hits. I’m comfortably getting by without meat at the mo and only had fish once in nine days. But add in the eggs, dairy, cheese, honey etc and it’s just too much hits for me to religiously maintain.
I’m fairly sure I’ll return to meat in Feb, but it has made me see it’s easier to get by without it than I thought it would be
Just my view.
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Seriously... I feel like they continued to eat it despite knowing they'd been given meat.
edit: I appreciate that the risk of cross contamination if I go to a restaurant that also sells meat but my point is my local Indian hasn’t marketed itself as a meat-centric business like MaccyDs etc have for decades.
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Environmental campaigner George Monbiot argues that the biggest problem driving us towards global disaster is how we feed ourselves, particularly on meat.
Really tasty dinner
True, but think of the amount of leftover sanwiches for the days after
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A company called vivera so a plant based Greek kebab and one called shawarma kebab and they changed the game. 5 minutes in a frying pan and into the pitta with chilli sauce it goes. Morrisons do it for 2.50 a pack asda and sainsburys it's about 3 quid.
The only vivera stuff I havent liked is the bacon pieces but apparently i was cooking them wrong, they need to be dry fried in the pan first then have some oil added after it goes crispy
Love it. I make a proper kebab with it, pitta, shredded veg, garlic and chilli sauce. Would actually choose it as a dinner.
Did the bacon bits in a carbonara pre January and was really good, if a little fiddly making them smaller in the pan. Good tip on dry frying.
So this thread has definitely helped make me more educated (even avoiding all of Anna’s link spamming).
I’ve also learned though that:
1 - A vegan diet does not automatically mean a healthier diet. Indeed, it probably leads you more down the processed food line with the big expansion of ready meal availability
2. It’s not for me. There’s just too many hits. I’m comfortably getting by without meat at the mo and only had fish once in nine days. But add in the eggs, dairy, cheese, honey etc and it’s just too much hits for me to religiously maintain.
I’m fairly sure I’ll return to meat in Feb, but it has made me see it’s easier to get by without it than I thought it would be Just my view.