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Post Match Views: Charlton v Accrington: 19 January 2019.

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  • Rossman92 said:

    Lmao Bauer

    Is he saying Krystian has only one?
  • If that defender has reactions like that then he may potentially be the greatest reflex keeper in the world
  • edited January 2019
    It us a penalty all day long, he was defending and trying to limit Reeves’s options of shooting at the goal or where he could kick the ball to and in doing so he had his arm out. Penalty.
  • Taylor didn't do anything wrong. The club should appeal the decision and demand compensation for damage to reputation.

    The Stanley keeper is a voilent thug abs should be given a double red and a very long ban.
  • Had a quick look at the Stanley forum..apart from moron calling us the dirtiest team in league, the majority said we deserved the win and there was nothing wrong with the disallowed goal.
    Some 50/50 on the penalty, if he had his hands down it would have gone round him. Penalty for me.

    All the Stanley fans aren't keen on Taylor it seems, laughing at being sent off. It just looks like he's giving the Stanley player shit.
  • This will be unpopular, wasn’t at the game, but watching quest this morning, Taylor does appear to kick out and send an AS player flying right at the end of the melee before the scene changes to the keepers red card
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  • Taxi_Lad said:

    Surprised nobody has singled Bielik out for special praise in the brawl. Went charging in to aid Taylor, knocking a few around in the process. Think he realised he might have overstepped the mark so retreated to the halfway line rather sheepishly

    Certainly got balls of steel that Bielik.
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.

    That cant be Taylor that sends the Accrington player flying surely?

    Lyle is already on the ground and looks like its the Charlton player (Cullen) standing to the left that throws out the arm to send him over?
  • Thought Bow made a rare tactical error flooding the midfield, we were very flat and could have done with more width from the off, perhaps Fosu for Pratley. With that strength of team we should be destroying teams like them.

    Very enjoyable match, Stanley players were a disgrace but the ref should have sorted them out immediately instead he allowed their prolonged moaning and disgusting behaviour towards the Lino to go unpunished for too long.
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.

    Looks like a shove that did that, judging by how his body move and arm movement from one of ours.
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.

    That cant be Taylor that sends the Accrington player flying surely?

    Lyle is already on the ground and looks like its the Charlton player (Cullen) standing to the left that throws out the arm to send him over?
    Agreed, I can’t see that it’s Taylor who sends their guy flying.
  • Learn the (newish) rules @golfaddick- if a player requires treatment after a FOUL, he no longer has to leave the pitch.

    After a booking
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  • Just watched it back. Never a penalty! Shocking decision tbf.

    Why do you think no penalty?
    Too close IMHO
    I always say it's a pen if the oppo player stop the ball going to another player. If his arm wasn't in the way the ball would have either been on target or gone to a team mate. It's one we don't usually get but imo was the correct decision.

    Also surprised the other incident that got my goat hasn't been mentioned......the injured player who after been treated by their physio didn't go off the pitch !! Ref was a complete numpty.

    As for the rest of the game. Turgid. No real attacking threat apart from Taylor in the 15 mins before he was sent off. LB has the sending off & the penalty to save him from getting pelters this evening. Shocking performance all round.
    Do you remember Morgan?

    Young Albie who had a great 1st half against Sunderland was going to play according to Bowyer, which would have given the midfield a better balance, with two attacking players, Williams and Morgan, and two defensive midfielders.

    Why Lee Bowyer should get pelters when he is faced with losing 2 players per match by injuries: Morgan in training and Taylor's Red card just a typical week at Cafc.

    I understand slagging off is your raison d'etre but you are becoming predictable.
    I'm not slagging anyone off......just pointing out that I think LB was wrong in playing 3 dm' s from the start. He did it at Coventry & Barnsley recently & we lost both games. I was at the Coventry game & we were awful 1st half, just like yesterday.

    imo he should have started with Fosu instead of Prately yesterday......or why not even Marshall on the right, Fosu left, with Cullen & Beilik in the middle (or Williams instead of one of those 2)

    I admit I'm not a tactical genius but I'm not the only one saying that Cullen, Pratley & Beliek is too defensive.....especially at home & esp against a team we need to be beating if we want promotion. Away at Pompey or Sunderland may be.....at home to AS (who are on a bad run of form) no.
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.

    Looks like a shove that did that, judging by how his body move and arm movement from one of ours.
    I think Taylor has a chance looking at the footage. I think he can claim his position was extremely vulnerable and he had to assume a defensive stance to avoid injury. He moved his legs to stop people stamping on his legs/privates - he could not see any players and if they were not attacking him he wouldn't have touched them. There is evidence as to why self defence was needed, and whilst unlikely, as the league do not always approach these situations fairly, it is possible that a hearing could be understanding of the need to protect his space in that situation.
  • JaShea99 said:

    Solly deserves a lot of credit for sprinting over and shielding the lino after their players absolutely went for him. Surprised it hasn’t been mentioned.

    Personally I didn't think it was his job to get involved and protect the lino, as that risks getting yourself involved when it had nothing to do with us. Indeed LET the Stanley players overstep the mark
  • https://youtu.be/DpgBfH3T7VY

    In this vid at about 9.20 is the red card incident. Accrington player goes flying which I assume the assistant assumed was Taylor kicking out from the ground. Will be surprised if it’s overturned.

    Looks like a shove that did that, judging by how his body move and arm movement from one of ours.
    I think Taylor has a chance looking at the footage. I think he can claim his position was extremely vulnerable and he had to assume a defensive stance to avoid injury. He moved his legs to stop people stamping on his legs/privates - he could not see any players and if they were not attacking him he wouldn't have touched them. There is evidence as to why self defence was needed, and whilst unlikely, as the league do not always approach these situations fairly, it is possible that a hearing could be understanding of the need to protect his space in that situation.
    Imagine you are pushed to the ground with a load of people steaming in on you - I don't think you would do anything different to Taylor. You bring your legs and arms up and try to fend people off with your feet. It is different to deliberately kicking out and given Taylor's position - helpless on the floor - I think a good case can easily be made.
  • Just watched it back. Never a penalty! Shocking decision tbf.

    Why do you think no penalty?
    Too close IMHO
    I always say it's a pen if the oppo player stop the ball going to another player. If his arm wasn't in the way the ball would have either been on target or gone to a team mate. It's one we don't usually get but imo was the correct decision.

    Also surprised the other incident that got my goat hasn't been mentioned......the injured player who after been treated by their physio didn't go off the pitch !! Ref was a complete numpty.

    As for the rest of the game. Turgid. No real attacking threat apart from Taylor in the 15 mins before he was sent off. LB has the sending off & the penalty to save him from getting pelters this evening. Shocking performance all round.
    Do you remember Morgan?

    Young Albie who had a great 1st half against Sunderland was going to play according to Bowyer, which would have given the midfield a better balance, with two attacking players, Williams and Morgan, and two defensive midfielders.

    Why Lee Bowyer should get pelters when he is faced with losing 2 players per match by injuries: Morgan in training and Taylor's Red card just a typical week at Cafc.

    I understand slagging off is your raison d'etre but you are becoming predictable.
    I'm not slagging anyone off......just pointing out that I think LB was wrong in playing 3 dm' s from the start. He did it at Coventry & Barnsley recently & we lost both games. I was at the Coventry game & we were awful 1st half, just like yesterday.

    imo he should have started with Fosu instead of Prately yesterday......or why not even Marshall on the right, Fosu left, with Cullen & Beilik in the middle (or Williams instead of one of those 2)

    I admit I'm not a tactical genius but I'm not the only one saying that Cullen, Pratley & Beliek is too defensive.....especially at home & esp against a team we need to be beating if we want promotion. Away at Pompey or Sunderland may be.....at home to AS (who are on a bad run of form) no.
    Bowyer probably wanted to keep Fosu up his sleeve for when Accrington tired. He likes the narrow formation, so that rules Marshall out. Maybe Reeves would've been the best suited but it was handy having him come on for Williams. And maybe LB thought Pratley deserved a chance after last week at Shrewsbury.
  • Learn the (newish) rules @golfaddick- if a player requires treatment after a FOUL, he no longer has to leave the pitch.

    After a booking
    Laws not rules Henry !! :-)

    But you are right, an injured player does not need to leave the pitch following injury in where the aggressor was either cautioned or sent off; unless the treatment length is likely to unduly delay the restart of the game.
    Law change 2 years ago.
  • The Bielik/fan incident is going viral. A Thai person has just shown it to me!
  • PeterGage said:

    Learn the (newish) rules @golfaddick- if a player requires treatment after a FOUL, he no longer has to leave the pitch.

    After a booking
    Laws not rules Henry !! :-)

    But you are right, an injured player does not need to leave the pitch following injury in where the aggressor was either cautioned or sent off; unless the treatment length is likely to unduly delay the restart of the game.
    Law change 2 years ago.
    That last bit is daft, as the delay is nearly always BEFORE the player might leave the pitch anyway. The whole law is a farce in this respect, as in practice it saves minimal time
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