Always gave his best for us, definitely grew in ability whilst here and put his body on line many times. Can't ask for more than that from him. Am sure a championship club will take him on, just hope he can get the same sort of game time he got with us.
Really needs to work on his temper though. Seem to remember him saying he got frustrated this season as being captain at Bristol Rovers he had authority to speak to referees, and got annoyed when they blanked him at Charlton. We lost him for 2 pretty crucial games because of the sully bookings he kept getting, especially at Wednesday away.
Literally beyond belief that you'd agree to insert a clause letting an under contract first team regular go on a free.
He came to us on a "free" and has left on a "free".
What bargaining power did we have when he joined us? Sound financial footing? The offer of a 5 year contract? Massive imminent strengthening of the squad?
Who in their right mind and is worth anything would want to stay and play for us right now? A club where the fans and players don't even know who the actual owners are and could go bust at any time.
I'm not questioning him wanting to leave. Wouldn't blame anyone for that.
But no one is going to convince me that inserting a clause whereby a first team regular can leave on a free is anything but ridiculous.
This. What was his incentive to keeping us up. NONE.
What was his incentive for us to get relegated.
£££££
Fuck them all. No wonder we went down. Spineless. Players & Management. I wouldnt have played him. Played someone who wanted to be here whatever division we were going to be in come September.
He's was the main stay in a mediocre Bristol team, and played in nearly every game to a Charlton team that were relegated because they weren't much cop. There's players out there that would be bitting your hand off to play ....
Will be offered a new contract before end of this week according to Cawley
One of those special Charlton, “here’s a contract with an 85% wage cut, but it’s technically a new contract so we can tell everyone that we tried to keep you when you turn it down” sort of contract offers?
As Cawley has said on twitter - We're able to offer these guys new deals because the likes of Matthews and other loanees have gone
So what we were paying them can go on the Contract offers of Lockyer and JFC so wont be surprised to see Naby Sarr being offered next
I imagine if we got Naby's Contract down (as cant see him being on the same terms) then that could go quite a way
We have no income, are likely to be kicked out of the league and our ownership appears unknown and unwealthy. Regardless of who has left the club how on earth can we afford to offer anyone a new deal? And who in their right mind would accept?
As Cawley has said on twitter - We're able to offer these guys new deals because the likes of Matthews and other loanees have gone
So what we were paying them can go on the Contract offers of Lockyer and JFC so wont be surprised to see Naby Sarr being offered next
I imagine if we got Naby's Contract down (as cant see him being on the same terms) then that could go quite a way
We have no income, are likely to be kicked out of the league and our ownership appears unknown and unwealthy. Regardless of who has left the club how on earth can we afford to offer anyone a new deal? And who in their right mind would accept?
From the player's perspective - IF the money is acceptable to you then I don't know why you wouldn't sign it? It provides a level of financial security.
After all - in our situation, a player will be aware that if a decent offer comes in for them, the club will likely accept regardless of whether they have just signed a new contract.
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
I understand we are being kept on a certain level of spending. So as with bringing in loans in Jan, we kept to the level as we lost Leko, Gallagher etc.
So now a few others have left, ie Matthews, we can use that free’d up budget.
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Not really, the total wage bill cannot increase, but an individual player's wage can do so. So because the likes of Lyle, Solly, and Page (at least) are off, then it frees up money to pay others.
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
I think that there was an agreed budget set by Roland with the EFL. As long as we remain in that budget it's ok. Issue comes if you offer more to say Lockyer and JFC and when you later come to sign other players or loanees the budget will be stretched.
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30
You reckon that some players are on a wage as high as £10 and £20, no wonder we are broke
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30
You reckon that some players are on a wage as high as £10 and £20, no wonder we are broke
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30
You reckon that some players are on a wage as high as £10 and £20, no wonder we are broke
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Not really, the total wage bill cannot increase, but an individual player's wage can do so. So because the likes of Lyle, Solly, and Page (at least) are off, then it frees up money to pay others.
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Yes he can... See it this way in the most basic of terms:
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £20.01
I dont understand how hes being offered a deal while we are under embargo... he cant get and improved offer, just the same as last season. Is that correct ?
Not really, the total wage bill cannot increase, but an individual player's wage can do so. So because the likes of Lyle, Solly, and Page (at least) are off, then it frees up money to pay others.
Or nice bread and bitches.
I dread to think what the standard of bitch would be like with our finances.
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Really needs to work on his temper though. Seem to remember him saying he got frustrated this season as being captain at Bristol Rovers he had authority to speak to referees, and got annoyed when they blanked him at Charlton. We lost him for 2 pretty crucial games because of the sully bookings he kept getting, especially at Wednesday away.
All the best Tom.
Will be offered a new contract before end of this week according to Cawley
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-charlton-athletic-set-to-offer-new-contract-to-tom-lockyer/
Wont begrudge him or anyone if they take the opportunity to leave
So what we were paying them can go on the Contract offers of Lockyer and JFC so wont be surprised to see Naby Sarr being offered next
I imagine if we got Naby's Contract down (as cant see him being on the same terms) then that could go quite a way
I guess it's the same people who offered the contracts that Davison and Morgan signed the other week?
Who that is, I don't know.
After all - in our situation, a player will be aware that if a decent offer comes in for them, the club will likely accept regardless of whether they have just signed a new contract.
As se9 said it will be one of those were they csn publicly say they offferee it to him and he turned it down to make them look good.
But really its most likely a wage decrease or worst case the same wage he is on now, when he could get more at a championship team.
So I am still 99.9% sure he is gonna be gone
So now a few others have left, ie Matthews, we can use that free’d up budget.
Not really, the total wage bill cannot increase, but an individual player's wage can do so. So because the likes of Lyle, Solly, and Page (at least) are off, then it frees up money to pay others.
Lockyer got £20... Matthews got £10... With Matthews now gone we can offer Lockyer: £30