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Ben Purrington - signed for Ross County (p23)

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  • edited November 2021
    It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last
    Yes, I hadn’t thought of that but thinking about it, it’s clear that is exactly what JJ is doing.
  • It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last
     Very astute observation
  • It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last

    JJ right now watching his master plan... 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last
     Very astute observation
    Or a complete coincidence because JJ played in center midfield for Spurs and Colchester? 
  • He’s like a fine wine 
    I never rated him and he’s definitely improved imo and happy to eat humble pie on him Dobson , Clare etc etc all of em !!

    just get us out of this shit division perleeeease 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last
     Very astute observation
    Or a complete coincidence because JJ played in center midfield for Spurs and Colchester? 
    But the majority of his playing career was LB and LM for us.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    It seems that John J has taken Purry under his wing and is developing him into a JJ mark2, a good left back transformed into a goal scoring left sided midfield defender .. whatever, Ben is doing a great job in his new role .. long may it last
     Very astute observation
    Or a complete coincidence because JJ played in center midfield for Spurs and Colchester? 
    But the majority of his playing career was LB and LM for us.
    Probably played CM more for us than LB. We initially took him on loan to cover LB, but he was always a CM/LM even at that time.

    I agree with the similarity though, a solid consistent player is even more valuable if they add goals to their game.
  • The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
  • The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
    I think BP is actually quicker than most give him credit for.

    His positional awareness to get into the right place at the right time when attacking is incredible for a defender.
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  • The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
    I think BP is actually quicker than most give him credit for.

    His positional awareness to get into the right place at the right time when attacking is incredible for a defender.

    He did this at times last season, but hardly anyone mentioned it (other than me !)
    In one game he was in the box and he had 3 half chances after taking up good positions in the box after not getting picked up; it was down the Covered end. 

    His pace is moderate like Shaw but obviously he is no Karl Walker. (Not many are)


  • The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
    Conte's preferred system has wing backs AND inverted wingers.  England played a 343 with both in the Euros as well at one point.

    The way the top managers use full/wing backs is fascinating really.  Pep plays a No10 at left most of the time, Klopp has wing backs in a 4, both Conte and Tuchel use a winger ala JJ.  
  • Needs a song and a nickname. 

    Purrnaldo?
    Purgero?
    The Devon Dani Alves?
    Purrberto Carlos?


    He already has one, at the training ground they all call him The Cat
  • We now have a round peg in a round hole - just like a few of the others.
  • edited November 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
    Conte's preferred system has wing backs AND inverted wingers.  England played a 343 with both in the Euros as well at one point.

    The way the top managers use full/wing backs is fascinating really.  Pep plays a No10 at left most of the time, Klopp has wing backs in a 4, both Conte and Tuchel use a winger ala JJ.  

    Trent-AA and Robertson as wing backs in a 4 looks crazy if Liverpool weren't so good all over the pitch. 

    Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City have such talented squads they have the luxury of playing several different ways and we all know they will be the top 3 and clear of the rest.

    For Cafc, JJ demanded we change from passive to aggressive and 3-5-2 so we attack in numbers and defend in numbers in 5-3-2 if game management dictates.  Other formations are available but JJ prefers this one for now.

    In our new system under JJ, some players might not look great on the ball at times but Davison for example is working his socks off and defending from the front.
  • The Apprentice
  • Dazzler21 said:
    The Apprentice
    JJ jr?
  • The wing back role continues to evolve, as Shaw, Chilwell, James,  etc end up involved in more goal chances and assists and are making "wingers" redundant or just squad players. 

    Those players are light years away from cafc but Purrington despite his lack of pace ( similar to Shaw) has proved that he can be a dangerous attacking player in a 3-5-2 as long as you have the cover;  Dobson more than a Watson plus the LCB.
    I think BP is actually quicker than most give him credit for.

    His positional awareness to get into the right place at the right time when attacking is incredible for a defender.
    this .. he was out pretty wide on the RIGHT when he scored on Saturday
  • He was in the box for a corner. He still showed good instincts to score but it wasn't like he popped up there from his natural position
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  • The most interesting bit of his goal was how he took it like a forward and not a defender. Not just the finish, but he peeled off the defenders and forwards competing for the ball in the event they'll miss it, which they did!
  • Someone needs to ask Jacko whether we're negotiating a new contract with him

    Yes Jacko is still only a caretaker, but it didn't stop us giving CBT a new contract
  • Someone needs to ask Jacko whether we're negotiating a new contract with him

    Yes Jacko is still only a caretaker, but it didn't stop us giving CBT a new contract
    I wonder if he’s playing out of his skin,not just because of a formation change and belief from JJ and Euelly, but also to earn a new contract.

    Curbs used to say Johnny Robinson used to play out of his skin, whenever his contract was nearly up!
  • Really good achievement, well done Ben. Think he’s been one of our better players this season too and made that left wing back position his own….
  • Is Purrington's role sustainable for a promotion push next season? I'm not sure. 

    He's defensively solid and gets into the box well (it feels a bit churlish to say 'the goals have dried up recently' about a wing-back, but scoring goals is definitely part of his job), but with the ball he is never going to beat his man and get crosses in, or attack the box at pace.

    Definitely worth keeping around, not least as he covers LCB as well, but if 3-5-2 is the way forward, might we not want someone who scares defenders a bit more? Or, in League One, is what Purrington brings adequate? 

    (Yes I know for comparison's sake DJ's crossing hasn't been ideal, but at least he gets lots of crosses away thanks to his excellent close control and burst of pace)
  • Leuth said:
    Is Purrington's role sustainable for a promotion push next season? I'm not sure. 

    He's defensively solid and gets into the box well (it feels a bit churlish to say 'the goals have dried up recently' about a wing-back, but scoring goals is definitely part of his job), but with the ball he is never going to beat his man and get crosses in, or attack the box at pace.

    Definitely worth keeping around, not least as he covers LCB as well, but if 3-5-2 is the way forward, might we not want someone who scares defenders a bit more? Or, in League One, is what Purrington brings adequate? 

    (Yes I know for comparison's sake DJ's crossing hasn't been ideal, but at least he gets lots of crosses away thanks to his excellent close control and burst of pace)
    Of course it is.

    However, if the rest of the midfield (whoever that may be) doesn't chip in with its fair share of goals and assists, and we don't have cover/alternatives on the front line then it doesn't matter whether Ben Purr's chariot has a souped-up engine or not: we won't be going up.
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