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Jonny Williams - now at Gillingham (p47)

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  • Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.
  • Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.
    On the other hand I don't remember him actually doing much either. He was busy enough but didn't seem to present much danger.
    Obviously he was up against a much higher class of player but it was the Williams dichotomy - looks good, keeps possession and draws fouls but with very little in the way of actual end product.
  • Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.

    i'd start him in centre mid all day long - too many water carriers / passers in the team - vennings and levitt shouldn't be anywhere near in comparison - get him, doughty and Maddison going at teams and sign a decent striker and we will start to look something - i know we need to defend as well but last week, the way we set up to start, it was virtually impossible to attack.   
  • DOUCHER said:
    Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.

    i'd start him in centre mid all day long - too many water carriers / passers in the team - vennings and levitt shouldn't be anywhere near in comparison - get him, doughty and Maddison going at teams and sign a decent striker and we will start to look something - i know we need to defend as well but last week, the way we set up to start, it was virtually impossible to attack.   
    I am glad that you aren’t the Manager. You need a selection of artists and artisans. Too many of either and it doesn’t work.
  • dickplumb said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.

    i'd start him in centre mid all day long - too many water carriers / passers in the team - vennings and levitt shouldn't be anywhere near in comparison - get him, doughty and Maddison going at teams and sign a decent striker and we will start to look something - i know we need to defend as well but last week, the way we set up to start, it was virtually impossible to attack.   
    I am glad that you aren’t the Manager. You need a selection of artists and artisans. Too many of either and it doesn’t work.

    So is the popular belief - the right balance is of course wanted but i think those 3 can play and we still will have that - you need a workhorse up top (marquis say), you have Maddison and doughty either side then you have williams, Watson and say gilbey in the middle. once williams engine blows up you put aneke or someone on. If you aren't asking questions going forwards, you have no chance. Didn't get my level 1 coaching badge for nothing!!! 
  • edited October 2020
    Lovely bloke, flatters to deceive, does well in job of drawing fouls has an eye for a pass and is tricky.

    Not much else to his game, hence Bowyer trying to add to his game.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Lovely bloke, flatters to deceive, does well in job of drawing fouls has an eye for a pass and is tricky.

    Not much else to his game, hence Bowyer trying to add to his game.
    Which is why Maddison signing is significant. A player with a similar style and position but considerably better statistics (at the current level at least) might give Williams a kick up the arse if he wants to keep his place.
  • thenewbie said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Lovely bloke, flatters to deceive, does well in job of drawing fouls has an eye for a pass and is tricky.

    Not much else to his game, hence Bowyer trying to add to his game.
    Which is why Maddison signing is significant. A player with a similar style and position but considerably better statistics (at the current level at least) might give Williams a kick up the arse if he wants to keep his place.

    He doesn't have the pace and power to play on the wing but has the other attributes - he can draw 2 or 3 players to him, do a shimmy etc but then needs to lay it off to the forwards / wingers who can 'gallop' - he says himself he wants to play in the middle and i can see why.   
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  • dickplumb said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Without reading back, I’d like to say I thought he had a good game last night......I can only remember him making one misplaced pass.

    i'd start him in centre mid all day long - too many water carriers / passers in the team - vennings and levitt shouldn't be anywhere near in comparison - get him, doughty and Maddison going at teams and sign a decent striker and we will start to look something - i know we need to defend as well but last week, the way we set up to start, it was virtually impossible to attack.   
    I am glad that you aren’t the Manager. You need a selection of artists and artisans. Too many of either and it doesn’t work.
    You do, but how many artists did we have on Saturday.  Certainly not too many. 
  • DOUCHER said:
    a year ago i remember he was on top of his game, we had a home match and he was unplayable - he got injured in that game - he has it in him to do it  
    He does, which is what makes it more frustrating that he's not doing it very often. Not entirely his fault as he can only do so much on his own but I don't think I'm alone in feeling he is capable of more than he's managed to date.
  • We've been having the same conversation about him for ages - hasn't really delivered.
  • edited October 2020
    RC_CAFC said:
    PopIcon said:
    Williams had a good game today. Drew a fair dumber of fouls, was tidy and set up some of Wales' best attacks (admittedly not many of them). He should be starting for us.
    Drew a fair number of fouls? Our Williams? How about doing something useful and creating some chances? Perhaps a goal is asking too much?
    I don’t quite get the thread that drawing fouls isn’t creating chances. Drawing fouls gives teams the chance to get balls into the box and score goals. The only problem is, we haven’t had the players to do this decently recently. Hopefully with Maddison we can start putting in decent crosses!

    i really hope Williams can start improving again now we’re signing better players and kick on from here because he really should be starting in a league 1 team with his talent. (Totally agree with Bowyer that he hasn’t been showing that enough recently and is justifiably not been playing as much)
    Set pieces are a major way of scoring goals for many teams. Also, it unsettles opponents in that it can stop them getting a flow. There is no way for me, outside of fitness, you don't start Williams in League One.
  • Balance on the ball! See! He's pretty on the eye, nobody is denying that.

    Did he stand on the ball at some point?!
  • https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wales-player-ratings-vs-england-19075133

    Jonny Williams 5
    Another who started brightly, but unable to open up the England defence and faded as the game wore on. Replaced in the closing quarter and can be expected to stand down for Aaron Ramsey for Sunday's UEFA Nations League game with Ireland.
  • https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wales-player-ratings-vs-england-19075133

    Jonny Williams 5
    Another who started brightly, but unable to open up the England defence and faded as the game wore on. Replaced in the closing quarter and can be expected to stand down for Aaron Ramsey for Sunday's UEFA Nations League game with Ireland.
    Good, then he will not get injured, but keeps training
  • ross1 said:
    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wales-player-ratings-vs-england-19075133

    Jonny Williams 5
    Another who started brightly, but unable to open up the England defence and faded as the game wore on. Replaced in the closing quarter and can be expected to stand down for Aaron Ramsey for Sunday's UEFA Nations League game with Ireland.
    Good, then he will not get injured, but keeps training
    Unless he gets injured in training 
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  • Only 27.....I thought he was 34/35. 
  • ct_addick said:
    Only 27.....I thought he was 34/35. 

    That's because Jonny's got his head on upside down.

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  • Surprised he did not get a championship team come in with an offer. They let you play a little more there.
  • Hes gonna get sharper for the break👍🏽👍🏽
  • There is not one League One side that wouldn't have him if they could. Nuff said as Stan Lee would put it.
  • MattF said:
    If you didn’t think of Carl Harris when you read “Welsh Wizard” you must be under 45 years old 
  • https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wales-player-ratings-vs-england-19075133

    Jonny Williams 5
    Another who started brightly, but unable to open up the England defence and faded as the game wore on. Replaced in the closing quarter and can be expected to stand down for Aaron Ramsey for Sunday's UEFA Nations League game with Ireland.
    My god a league 1 player who isn't better than Juventus's Aaron Ramsey?!?!  That's journalism of the finest quality.

    Anyone judging the suitability of a player based on that game, can you remind me which league 1 team Kalvin Phillips and Harry Winks play for, I must have missed that news. 
  • Thank fuck he decided to sign a one year extension to 2021. 

    I mean, it's a big risk. After all, who knows what's going to happen in 2021? 

    But imagine if he'd signed a one-year extension to 2020 instead. There's no way I could take another twelve months of it. 
  • Happy Birthday to Jonny Williams, the Kentish Welshman. 

    Now how to we get the best out of JW.

    Being fouled on the edge of the box or in the box would be better than being fouled on the half way line where we then pass sidewards or backwards.

    Get JW to play near to Bogle/Aneke to pick up the ball in a more forward position. 

    It's a shame JW only has an energy/battery that lasts 60 minutes as otherwise he could be Eveready to play the whole game.
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