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  • Had not realized Oshilaja had got himself injured.  I had wondered why he was not in the squad though.
    Yes, I think a week or so ago before the Barnsley game, Bowyer mentioned he had twisted his ankle in training. Sounds as if it wasn't serious if now back training.
  • It might be better to have Aneke on the bench rather than Bonne as he has had a few U23 games under his belt. 
  • 4 x more knocks reported today .....
  • edited February 2020
    🤔. We must be doing something wrong in training. This is silly. 
  • edited February 2020
    4 x more knocks reported today .....
    They aren't all knocks ...... it seems Pratley and Williams are rested, Green has a cold. 
    Dunno about Field, maybe he didn't need to be risked tonight so there wasn't room on the bench for him? Maybe Smith fits the game plan better for tonights match?

    Midfielders can be rotated, Bowyer has already said. We didn't bring in 4 midfield loans in January for nothing.
  • Oggy Red said:
    4 x more knocks reported today .....
    They aren't all knocks ...... it seems Pratley and Williams are rested, Green has a cold. 
    Dunno about Field, maybe he didn't need to be risked tonight so there wasn't room on the bench for him? Maybe Smith fits the game plan better for tonights match?

    Midfielders can be rotated, Bowyer has already said. We didn't bring in 4 midfield loans in January for nothing.
    With Green out Field could have made the bench. 
  • https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-lee-bowyer-explains-absence-of-four-players-who-missed-vital-win-at-nottingham-forest/

    Hope Sam Field isnt going to be one of those injury prone players over the years

    He's rated by the West Brom fans and was impressed with him whenever I saw him for us, just cant shake this knee problem though
  • https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-boss-lee-bowyer-explains-absence-of-four-players-who-missed-vital-win-at-nottingham-forest/

    Hope Sam Field isnt going to be one of those injury prone players over the years

    He's rated by the West Brom fans and was impressed with him whenever I saw him for us, just cant shake this knee problem though
    It doesn't mean he's, "injury prone"  ........ he's not getting a multitude of different injuries over a period of time.

    It's the one serious injury that perhaps he's tried to come back from too soon, that likely just needs time to heal fully.
    Just a niggle, our people are saying. He's a West Brom player - and it sounds like they've insisted he's assessed at their own medical facilities.

  • Sounds like all but Field available for saturday. Sensible precautions not to risk them and backs up why we went for so many midfielders in january.
    We've got 6 loanees anyway, all midfielders by trade ....... only 5 loanees can be named in the matchday squad.
    No need to rush back Field until he's properly ready.

    PS: Just had a thought. Maybe the extra loanee was signed in case Field had his loan terminated?


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  • I was told last night by someone who knows Williams quite well that he was quite down after his appearance at Stoke , which is unusual for him. 

    Although the term "rested" is probably true, it would appear that the treatment he received from those lovely Potters was worse than he normally expects.

    For "rested" , maybe "recovers" would be a fairer description ? 
  • With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    Lyle Taylor?
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    Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    There can't be many more fragile players than Jonny Williams.
    I remember Ogrizovic getting injured all the time and of course our own Page, then there was "sicknote" Darren Anderton.
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    Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    That's a constant theme of Terry and Greg on Valley Pass, and they point out another thing. Opposing players take it in turns. Jonny is already half crocked before anyone gets a yellow, because the idiot referees work on the offences of individual players, when in fact it's a collective tactic, which generally goes unpunished compared to the damage done. Stoke were at it on Saturday. Derby did the same thing on Gallagher.
  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    That's a constant theme of Terry and Greg on Valley Pass, and they point out another thing. Opposing players take it in turns. Jonny is already half crocked before anyone gets a yellow, because the idiot referees work on the offences of individual players, when in fact it's a collective tactic, which generally goes unpunished compared to the damage done. Stoke were at it on Saturday. Derby did the same thing on Gallagher.
    I agree. There needs to be a change in the laws that persistent fouling by a team is an offence, with the captain being warned and then booked if it continues. There was a game earlier on in the season where we had about 30% possession and we were fouled 14 times, so about every two minutes!

    I get the feeling that our response to these fouls has changed during the season in that we now go down when fouled so the ref has to make a decision, and I think this has helped. It is a pity we have not got a real specialist free kick taker to make these count more as this would reduce the fouls on Williams (and Taylor).
  • DOUCHER said:
    remember the tip off i had that field was out for the season - hope not but...
    Well seeing he was on the bench against Barnsley and Stoke...
    I know but I didn’t make it up and there is clearly an ongoing re occurring issue - as I say, hope I’m wrong 
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  • edited February 2020
    I thought McGeady was supposed to be  a bit tasty from free kicks around the box mind you he'd have to be ever present but won't be.
  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    Lyle Taylor?
    Taylor draws fouls, Williams gets clattered against his will.  Big difference for the well-being of the player.
  • McGeady can take free kicks and corners I believe. And penalties.
  • McGeady can take free kicks and corners I believe. And penalties.
    We've got a few players in the team who have been established penalty takers for their previous clubs like McGeady, Bonne, Hemed quickly come to mind.

    Plus Taylor and Cullen this season.

    Not Naby though. :worried:






  • Green out the weekend according to Cawley.

    And so it starts!
  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    Him and Conor Gallagher when he was with us anyway. My Reading supporting OH refers to JW as 'banana skin' after the amount of time he spent on the deck dring the game at theirs!
  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    That's a constant theme of Terry and Greg on Valley Pass, and they point out another thing. Opposing players take it in turns. Jonny is already half crocked before anyone gets a yellow, because the idiot referees work on the offences of individual players, when in fact it's a collective tactic, which generally goes unpunished compared to the damage done. Stoke were at it on Saturday. Derby did the same thing on Gallagher.
    Rugby has a collective yellow - too many offences and the next one takes a break for 10mins whether even if it was his first offence 
    That would throw a spanner in the works for a collective clogging team.

    They'd be frightened to challenge Williams. Just get in the box, Jonny.  :smile:


  • Redrobo said:
    With Oztumer and McGeady now on board, there is no need to flog JW into the ground.

    Keep him for those 'winnable' home games, and maybe the last twenty or thirty minutes away from home.

    He is obviously fragile, so need to treat him carefully.
    I am not sure he is fragile, but he does get fouled a lot.

    I doubt there is a player in the Championship that gets fouled as much as he is.
    That's a constant theme of Terry and Greg on Valley Pass, and they point out another thing. Opposing players take it in turns. Jonny is already half crocked before anyone gets a yellow, because the idiot referees work on the offences of individual players, when in fact it's a collective tactic, which generally goes unpunished compared to the damage done. Stoke were at it on Saturday. Derby did the same thing on Gallagher.
    Rugby has a collective yellow - too many offences and the next one takes a break for 10mins whether even if it was his first offence 
    Exactly. Lots of things can be learned from rugby officiating
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