I'd be interested to get a poll going on here, just a simple YES or NO to the question of 'Will we get relegated?'. Be interesting to see what the general consensus is.
I did try to open a new discussion and start one, but don't think I can?
But what purpose does it serve?
It'll just polarise those who feel the events of the next 2 weeks will give a better indication of how prepared we are for the rest of the season - compared to those who are already fretting that relegation is likely.
I'd be interested to get a poll going on here, just a simple YES or NO to the question of 'Will we get relegated?'. Be interesting to see what the general consensus is.
I did try to open a new discussion and start one, but don't think I can?
I'd be interested to get a poll going on here, just a simple YES or NO to the question of 'Will we get relegated?'. Be interesting to see what the general consensus is.
I did try to open a new discussion and start one, but don't think I can?
But what purpose does it serve?
It'll just polarise those who feel the events of the next 2 weeks will give a better indication of how prepared we are for the rest of the season - compared to those who are already fretting that relegation is likely.
The purpose is quite simple, to gain an understanding of what the general fan consensus is regarding relegation?
It is probably more complex than a yes or no. When the takeover happened I thought there was zero chance of getting relegated. Two weeks into the January window, I think there is a chance. That doesn't mean it will happen. With no new players, we could stay up with the players we have coming back from injury but that pre-supposes quite a lot. We can still get some new players in to strengthen the squad.
I'd be interested to get a poll going on here, just a simple YES or NO to the question of 'Will we get relegated?'. Be interesting to see what the general consensus is.
I did try to open a new discussion and start one, but don't think I can?
But what purpose does it serve?
It'll just polarise those who feel the events of the next 2 weeks will give a better indication of how prepared we are for the rest of the season - compared to those who are already fretting that relegation is likely.
The purpose is quite simple, to gain an understanding of what the general fan consensus is regarding relegation?
Maybe better suited once the window shuts.
I still don't see what good it can bring.
Every football team knows that fear of relegation often becomes a self-fulfulling prophecy. Relegation is a word banned in dressing rooms.
Even among supporters, it breeds an atmosphere of anxiety and tension at games..... in which players become afraid to make mistakes and their confidence drains away.
On the other hand, it's not about being 'Happy Clappy' and burying your head in the sand. But it is about avoiding a negative atmosphere at games, where anxiety and fear prevails.
I am worried we might go down this season as I would be in any other where we sit so close to the bottom three.
We shouldn’t get swept away by what might be under the new owner. This is a dog fight we can’t ignore. Whoever is brought in this window needs to be completely focussed on this season not what might happen if the purse strings are opened in the summer.
It’s early days and so far not much seems to have happened really, so my judgement on how good the new regime is is on hold.
On Saturday evening I felt that we had enough about us, primarily because of the guts in the squad, to stay out of the bottom 3 just about. However Gallagher was crucial to that as one of our few fit players of quality and has now gone as will Taylor too probably before the window closes. It's what Charlton do in January. Murphy, Reid, Kermorgant, Grant etc etc.
Will we get in any players of sufficient quality and even if we do how long will it take them to 'bed in?'
If Bowyer himself and his team actually stay for the rest of the season and pull this one off he (they) will be a miracle worker in my book.
It is probably more complex than a yes or no. When the takeover happened I thought there was zero chance of getting relegated. Two weeks into the January window, I think there is a chance. That doesn't mean it will happen. With no new players, we could stay up with the players we have coming back from injury but that pre-supposes quite a lot. We can still get some new players in to strengthen the squad.
It also depends on what the teams around us do. If they splash the cash and bring in some really good players, then staying up will become harder. Alternatively if they lose players, then the opposite applies, I've no idea what sort of squad Barnsley will have by the end of the window for example.
February is make or break as far as I'm concerned. The best case scenario is Bows and Llye are still here, we have at least 4/5 new faces and 3/4 back from injury. If this is the case I think if we can get between 11 to 15 points and we will be on home straight towards survival. The flip side of the coin being we go into the month with still a paper thin squad and loads of kids still in or around the team (not their fault btw) and we lose a lot of 6 pointer matches which could mean by the end of the month we are occupying a bottom three slot, which if we are in my opinion , I think it will be difficult to pull ourselves out.
Well I'm sure last week everyone was thinking that we would have added to the squad by now, not reduced it.
February is a BIG month. Lose at home to both Barnsley & Luton, as well as not picking up points away to Huddersfield & Stoke & you can say goodbye to playing Millwall again for a couple of years.
My one concern is that this season we've tended to be poor against the lower teams; the defeats at Luton and Wigan were poor performances too, when those are the sort of games we need to be raising our level for.
Again comes back to the players we've had unavailable but has our record really been that poor against the teams around us?
Against those around us when we werent relying on Steve Avory's daycare service it was:
Comes back to needing new players (and current players being available) by the 1st February
Apart from the Wigan and Luton games none of those have played us off the park either
But then around the time we were losing to Luton, Boro and Huddersfield, we drew against Cardiff, Hull and QPR, all mid table teams, and all 3 performances were much better too
Indeed after August we've consistently struggled against the poorer teams, but played well against the better ones
Just my opinion, but I believe we've played better against the ball playing teams. Maybe they allow us to play a bit more?
It's the physical, direct teams that we've generally struggled against.
On February 1st when we see the players in our squad,then we will have a better idea. Who has left and who has joined, and if the only R word in the cafc lexicon is Roland.
If last season in the championship January window a question was asked ?
Which club Chairman said: is it worth paying 1k extra a week for a player that has been identified as a target.
It is something the league need to get serious about. It feels like some clubs are taking the piss openly which the league needs to challenge or give up any credibility.
Home form is okay. Need to start getting results on the road. Starting to worry. If we don’t bring some players in this window, I think we will go down.
The writing has been on the wall since we lost multiple key players through October. Everyone could see it. It doesn't make you a genius or a realist or a historian to see it.
Some of us have chosen to support the remaining players (largely made up of non-league signings and loanees) whereas others are taking the chance to have a pop at fellow fans for daring to be positive in the face of adversity.
We will be ok... Relegation is an impossibility... We have a full squad coming back... Bows is on that contract no issues... Looking forward to the next Southall tweet...
We don't have the time to be able to give the new owners time to bed in. We need several players in to save our season and we need them as soon as possible.
Pay over the odds, who cares, they'll be losing far more money in league one if they hold off.
You look at our form and it's no wonder people are getting nervous.
I think we will be ok, just, but we desperately need to get bodies in/back. If we don't then it isn't looking good.
There would be no need if it wasn't the same posters posting the same sh*te after every defeat.
Some people are natural optimists, some people are natural pessimists.
As much as you get pissed off by apparently negative comments some people might be getting pissed off with the constant "it will all be fine" type comments. There's no right answer. If it's how people feel then it's how people feel.
Nobody is happy about where we are, but at least we have new owners and the promise of new players - which we didn't have a few weeks ago. But they need to start coming in soon.
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It'll just polarise those who feel the events of the next 2 weeks will give a better indication of how prepared we are for the rest of the season - compared to those who are already fretting that relegation is likely.
The purpose is quite simple, to gain an understanding of what the general fan consensus is regarding relegation?
Maybe better suited once the window shuts.
Every football team knows that fear of relegation often becomes a self-fulfulling prophecy.
Relegation is a word banned in dressing rooms.
Even among supporters, it breeds an atmosphere of anxiety and tension at games..... in which players become afraid to make mistakes and their confidence drains away.
On the other hand, it's not about being 'Happy Clappy' and burying your head in the sand.
But it is about avoiding a negative atmosphere at games, where anxiety and fear prevails.
We shouldn’t get swept away by what might be under the new owner. This is a dog fight we can’t ignore. Whoever is brought in this window needs to be completely focussed on this season not what might happen if the purse strings are opened in the summer.
It’s early days and so far not much seems to have happened really, so my judgement on how good the new regime is is on hold.
Will we get in any players of sufficient quality and even if we do how long will it take them to 'bed in?'
If Bowyer himself and his team actually stay for the rest of the season and pull this one off he (they) will be a miracle worker in my book.
Thought it very unlikely by mid September
Thinking very likely again now.
Who has left and who has joined, and if the only R word in the cafc lexicon is Roland.
If last season in the championship January window a question was asked ?
Which club Chairman said: is it worth paying 1k extra a week for a player that has been identified as a target.
My answer: Rotherham or Bolton.
Not the Derby or Birmingham guff, but next season when we are in League 1?
100% with Bowyer and the lads.
You look at our form and it's no wonder people are getting nervous.
I think we will be ok, just, but we desperately need to get bodies in/back. If we don't then it isn't looking good.
We don't have the time to be able to give the new owners time to bed in. We need several players in to save our season and we need them as soon as possible.
Pay over the odds, who cares, they'll be losing far more money in league one if they hold off.
As much as you get pissed off by apparently negative comments some people might be getting pissed off with the constant "it will all be fine" type comments. There's no right answer. If it's how people feel then it's how people feel.
Nobody is happy about where we are, but at least we have new owners and the promise of new players - which we didn't have a few weeks ago. But they need to start coming in soon.