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ESI own The Valley and have a commitment to buy the training ground within 6 months hmmmmmmmm
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They'll take the money. As they should. If it's reinvested into more players I have to agree.oohaahmortimer said:
Who’s gonna pay £3-£5m now when they can pay him a signing on fee of half that in 6 months, maybe someone desperate will (that should be us ! )supaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.
Is this the same sulking player who when his big money move to Brentford in the summer didn’t go through played out of his boots for us before and after injury .1 -
As if anyone’s is paying £3M - £5M for Taylor! Be lucky to get £1.5Msupaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.4 -
That's why i said or whatever the price was. I don't know, but seeing as we were led to believe Roland was asking 60m or so from some reports last year, i'd find it hard to believe the price was considerably lower than 40-50mSoundAsa£ said:
Who says they spent £50,000,000..........no one knows!Chris_from_Sidcup said:Seems a bit bizarre.
So they've paid 50m+ (or whatever the price was) and don't actually own everything?0 -
Re the ownership, they own the club & stadium and are committed to owning the training ground in short order. Not a massive issue in of itself and could be a result of some Roland related shenanigans. But it is a little strange and would indicate that we aren’t about to become Man City South, but we will be much clearer on the money available by the time 1st of Feb rolls around.2
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Leeds need a forward, Brentford need a forward, probably 2 or 3 others wanting promotion will throw their hat in the ring.se9addick said:
As if anyone’s is paying £3M - £5M for Taylor! Be lucky to get £1.5Msupaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.
I'm happy to wait and see.....1 -
There must be a valid reason why its not already part of the takeover. Paying £50m and not owning the training ground Roland has pulled off the deal of the century.
ESI need to communicate with the fans about what's happening to put everyones mind at rest1 -
Exactly. He's 30 in a couple of months and has spent 4 of this seasons 6 months injured.se9addick said:
As if anyone’s is paying £3M - £5M for Taylor! Be lucky to get £1.5Msupaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.
We'll probably be taking whatever we can get.2 -
And in those 30 years he’s played 13 matches at Championship level.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Exactly. He's 30 in a couple of months and has spent 4 of this seasons 6 months injured.se9addick said:
As if anyone’s is paying £3M - £5M for Taylor! Be lucky to get £1.5Msupaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.
We'll probably be taking whatever we can get.1 -
I repeat......who knows what ESI have paid....thus far that is.BigRedEvil said:There must be a valid reason why its not already part of the takeover. Paying £50m and not owning the training ground Roland has pulled off the deal of the century.
ESI need to communicate with the fans about what's happening to put everyones mind at rest1 -
I said straight after the Swansea game that he was off. Tight thigh muscle my arse. "Played" 45 mins as a thank you to LB......that is all. Convenient the "injury" keeps him out for the 2-3weeks that we have matches. Bet your bottom dollar that he plays a full 90 mins for whoever he signs for straightaway......probably even on the 21st or 28th of this month.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Exactly. He's 30 in a couple of months and has spent 4 of this seasons 6 months injured.se9addick said:
As if anyone’s is paying £3M - £5M for Taylor! Be lucky to get £1.5Msupaclive said:
Taylor WANTS to leave. Take £3-5m or lose him for nothing?Athletico Charlton said:Selling taylor and nor owning the training ground is an inglorious start indeed on the face of it and no amount of PR changes that.
That LITERALLY makes no sense. You have on your hands a sulking player not wanting to be there.
We'll probably be taking whatever we can get.
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What concerns me is the way this has been communicated and the vacuum I’ve spoken about in the other thread, not a great start - there may be some compelling reason of course.1
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If (and it’s a big if) he is fit enough to play 75% of our games then I believe he is nigh on priceless to us this season.AFKABartram said:Big questions to answer. Are we more likely to get more points for the remainder of the season with Taylor up front or someone else? How much extra will that someone else cost? Will Jan prices be too premium for value? Is there still a willing £xm buyer for Taylor?
A fit and in a good place mentally (so paid what he’s worth ) Lyle Taylor will keep us up5 -
ESI own the club and the valley.
That's good enough for me.
Now it appears they have six months in which to come to an agreement to buy the training ground.
If they do then great. If they don't we train somewhere else.not a huge problem imo.15 -
Not bothered about Lyle Taylor. But this training ground situation ain’t good. Why can’t we have something normal ffs.3
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Could it be they have their own plans for the site that are very different to Roland's scaled back ones?2
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What concerns you about the way it’s been communicated out of interest? What were you hoping for? a tweet from southall saying attention bed wetters but we don’t own the training ground? Maybe they haven’t decided yet whether they want the training ground. Maybe they have an alternative venue lined up or Douchers post could be on point. Whatever the answer is, I can’t say I share the concern there’s anything untoward to this.razil said:What concerns me is the way this has been communicated and the vacuum I’ve spoken about in the other thread, not a great start - there may be some compelling reason of course.6 -
Seems like it might be that they are waiting to the next financial year to balance the books. No biggie if all goes through smoothly. They own the club and the ground and all that will have all been an agreed price. The same for the training ground as well I am sure.
More worried about losing our best striker but hopefully we have plans to address that. Bowyer said that he didn't ever want a repeat of losing Aribo for nothing.0 -
I can not believe Roland would still want to own the training ground, as he can do nothing else with it than let Charlton use it. It must mean the new owners are short of cash and hope to raise more over the next 6 months if the above is true.2
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Why has nobody done a house analogy?
Like the time I bought my terraces house but said “I’ll have the garden off you in the summer.”?24 -
Train in the carpark like they did in my youth. Jumpers for goalposts and all that.2
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Things have moved on a bit from the 1980s when you could just take the first team over Greenwich Park instead. There are all sorts of commitments to provide facilities via the central academy funding and to the community trust that would take years to recreate.blackpool72 said:ESI own the club and the valley.
That's good enough for me.
Now it appears they have six months in which to come to an agreement to buy the training ground.
If they do then great. If they don't we train somewhere else.not a huge problem imo.
But I agree the training ground is not ultimately a large part of the identity of the club as far as fans are concerned.0 -
I suppose it depends how much rd wants for sparrows land? Is it good value? Are there alternatives0
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And does this mean we are paying rd rent for use of sparrows lane? Would that need ex director permission?0
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Never thought of that. Need some positivity. Im sure there will be an official statement todayMarcusH26 said:Could it be they have their own plans for the site that are very different to Roland's scaled back ones?0 -
There are umpteen different scenarios that have been put forward so far......yet you are categorically saying it ‘must be’ because ESI are short of funds.msomerton said:I can not believe Roland would still want to own the training ground, as he can do nothing else with it than let Charlton use it. It must mean the new owners are short of cash and hope to raise more over the next 6 months if the above is true.
No it doesn’t.....no one at this stage seems to know, it’s all speculation.9 -
I echo this, to nip the speculation in the bud it would be good to have some more concrete information re the training ground.orpingtonRED said:
Never thought of that. Need some positivity. Im sure there will be an official statement todayMarcusH26 said:Could it be they have their own plans for the site that are very different to Roland's scaled back ones?0 -
Yeah but that old patch of grass just next door is available cheaper , why not rent the current garden(you are not skint and are just seeing what’s available) and come back in the summer and re evaluateWSS said:Why has nobody done a house analogy?
Like the time I bought my terraces house but said “I’ll have the garden off you in the summer.”?0 -
It's worth mentioning here that Sparrows Lane is the only League club training ground with a London postcode. Every other team (even the Spanners) have training grounds in the proper suburbs like Bromley or Beckenham or Hertfordshire or Surrey. My understanding is that the land can't easily be converted but then again, where else would the team/academy train? I'd imagine it's quite important to the Academy to train somewhere relatively accessible and switching to further out in Kent where the land might be cheaper may end up being a false economy.10
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Why ‘must’ it mean they are short of cash?msomerton said:I can not believe Roland would still want to own the training ground, as he can do nothing else with it than let Charlton use it. It must mean the new owners are short of cash and hope to raise more over the next 6 months if the above is true.
I have bought stuff in installments because I did not want to use my invested money.
Maybe they wanted to get the main deal done so they did not miss the transfer window and complications with the training ground would have slowed things down?
Maybe the price of the training ground changes if we get relegated and this was a simple way to accommodate a possible change in price?
Too many maybes to worry about for me. It is what it is. Transfers are the only thing that matter at the moment.9
