To be fair, it was probably a very difficult window and the the Bostock cock-up was not their fault but if we go down, or even nearly go down (last day drama etc) ESI will still be culpable.
To lose Gallagher and Leko and replace with very average run-of-the-mill midfielders was clearly inadequate.
I doubt any of those signed were Bowyer's options one or two or even three.
Net result is we look more like a League 1 team than we did in League 1.
Bad in that we needed players in at the beginning of the window. There were important points to play for in January and we only got two in the end. Bad to Ok at the end. I think Green, Davis and McGeady were decent signings and would definitely have been the high end of OK had it not been for us losing Gallagher. Losing him puts it a bit below OK.
It would have helped me had Southall not raised my expectations and that made it feel even worse in all honesty. I have the West Brom programme in front of me and you only have to read what was said in that to be disapointed.
We have more chance of staying up than going down though. It is just we could have made the odds even better. No point moaning now. We get behind the team and review based on what happens next.
Green I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to for now because he’s had a couple of good performances. Bowyer doesn’t think Smith or Mcgeady are good enough to play (judging by the fact he brought neither of them on today). And Davis is wank.
Never replaced Gallagher and it’s going to cost us
What I find pathetic is Matt Southall tweeted a GIF of the Connor McGregor cocky walk after deadline day. What on Earth was he happy about, we have bought in bang average and I mean average players in Jan, pathetic window, pathetic team, no midfield, defence is a joke. But don’t worry we have players coming back from injury don’t we ....?
Having played 4 games since the window closed, what slightly concerns me about our business is that of the 4 players signed, while at least 2 of them will be important squad members (Green and Davis) and the other 2 may come good, none of them are obviously in our best 11
Gallagher, who we lost, definitely was in our best 11, so it's a concern that post the first ESI window we have actually ended up with a weaker first 11.
Neither McGeady nor Smith have featured in the last 2 games
When we have Williams out injured and Oztumer comes off early, for neither McGeady and Smith to feature tonight is concerning, as it begs the question when they will be of use...
What I find pathetic is Matt Southall tweeted a GIF of the Connor McGregor cocky walk after deadline day. What on Earth was he happy about, we have bought in bang average and I mean average players in Jan, pathetic window, pathetic team, no midfield, defence is a joke. But don’t worry we have players coming back from injury don’t we ....?
Copied from the Matt Smith thread:
Southall wanking himself off over twitter for bringing in three loans. I know we're still dealing with the foundations of Roland but ESI could have done so much more to ensure our safety this January
I’m just thankful that ESI got in early so they could sort out the squad discrepancies in the window. That went well. Davies is cack, Smith not up to it, McGeady unfancied. Why did they bother?
This interview just seems ridiculous now, just watched it again, all the rubbish about him being happy with the window and getting loan players in to help keep us up then build for the future, how the hell are Smith, Davis and Mceady going to keep us up lol
This interview just seems ridiculous now, just watched it again, all the rubbish about him being happy with the window and getting loan players in to help keep us up then build for the future, how the hell are Smith, Davis and Mceady going to keep us up lol
we’re tenth in the form table since the window, that’s a pretty decent return so far, if the form hadn’t picked up, and we had been like Hull, Reading and Boro, then I’d be putting on the act and panicking. Last night was shit, but Saturday was decent. So bit of context helps
we’re tenth in the form table since the window, that’s a pretty decent return so far, if the form hadn’t picked up, and we had been like Hull, Reading and Boro, then I’d be putting on the act and panicking. Last night was shit, but Saturday was decent. So bit of context helps
We have had a few wins but I wouldn't say we were playing well. Hopefully there are three worse teams.
If the window was as special as the new owner likes to tell us and we got the right bodies through the door, then why do we continue to play a very green teenager,who's clearly tired, out of position?
Loads of us got panned for saying the window was a total disaster and could take us down - but tbh it was obvious from the moment the window shut. Literally we didn’t do anything to try and stay up and it will end up costing us. Matt Smith couldn’t even get near the qpr line up in the end..... Davis I actually thought was the one who could be ok.... no centre back or left back bought in, no strong creative centre mid.
Fact is it was no better than a Roland window (the only element that you could possibly argue against is if he would have cashed in on Lyle)..... but difference this time is we have Southall strutting around like he’s the don with his super deal phone load of shat.
At least we haven't been saddled with Maddison and all that comes with him - he was an 89th minute substitute in Hull's game at Preston but started last night and was brought off at half time. This is what one Hull supporter said about him on their forum about his performance:
Maddison was a pathetic excuse of a footballer. Bottled every single challenge and when he had a chance to shoot decided to go over looking for a penalty. His non performance tonight was truly awful and smacks of a loan player that doesnt give a fhck and doesnt want to be here.
Hull's last 10 matches read - Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 8. We at least have some fight about us whereas it looks as if they have lost the will to battle.
So as a result of the Transfer Window we've beaten Barnsley - Luton - Forest... In each of those games we were able to rely on Davis, Smith, McGeady, Green
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
So as a result of the Transfer Window we've beaten Barnsley - Luton - Forest... In each of those games we were able to rely on Davis, Smith, McGeady, Green
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
That is so selective. I would counter that we could have played Gnanduillet, Maddison, Wilkes & Toney if we had signed those 4 instead.
So much flap. We had a weird window, there's no question. We obviously came out of it with the intention that we would plug the gaps in the squad with new loan players until the full squad was back, with the idea being that we were 2nd for a while and generally around play-off contention when everyone was fit and firing. We won't know if that's worked or not until the end of the season, but you can see it as a gamble. Field still isn't back, but Davis was brought in to cover for that gap anyway. I know after last night most people have decided he's worthless, but that position has been covered. We would be a lot worse off if we hadn't brought Davis in and were without Pratley and cover for him. We brought in Green to replace Leko and McGeady ostensibly to cover for the Williams/Oztumer fitness debacle that is still ongoing. The Smith signing I think was a bit of a Hail Mary; we didn't expect to lose Gallagher and frankly he isn't replaceable. Sounds like we missed out on a few targets, possibly mostly due to some laziness on the part of Toulouse and got in someone with similar, if lesser, attributes. It was an odd choice at the time as I think we all felt like defensive improvement should have been a priority, but then I think the team in general isn't set up well to defend at all, so I'm not sure bringing in a load of new defenders would have changed things massively.
Our form is still good. Last night's performance against a rubbish side was very dispiriting but if we beat Hudds we will have continued our form of winning every other game, and 3 points out of 6 every time will probably keep us in the division unless the teams below us continue to Megazord themselves up every week. Even if they do, beating the teams we have coming up will drag them down into the soup with us anyway, so things could look different yet again by the end of the weekend. It can still be ok.
So as a result of the Transfer Window we've beaten Barnsley - Luton - Forest... In each of those games we were able to rely on Davis, Smith, McGeady, Green
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
That is so selective. I would counter that we could have played Gnanduillet, Maddison, Wilkes & Toney if we had signed those 4 instead.
If you think Maddison is the answer I suggest you read what I said above about him. He really is a big time Charlie and no team needs one of those when you are in a relegation battle.
At least we haven't been saddled with Maddison and all that comes with him - he was an 89th minute substitute in Hull's game at Preston but started last night and was brought off at half time. This is what one Hull supporter said about him on their forum about his performance:
Maddison was a pathetic excuse of a footballer. Bottled every single challenge and when he had a chance to shoot decided to go over looking for a penalty. His non performance tonight was truly awful and smacks of a loan player that doesnt give a fhck and doesnt want to be here.
Hull's last 10 matches read - Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 8. We at least have some fight about us whereas it looks as if they have lost the will to battle.
No, but we've been saddled with Smith, who looks far worse than Dempsey, Morgan, Vennings et al.
Were we ever actually in for Maddison? Where's the evidence that we had any money?
After Saturday I was left wondering why we didn't we go for Carter-Vickers, I thought he looked good for Luton and he's clearly helped tighten up their backline.
So as a result of the Transfer Window we've beaten Barnsley - Luton - Forest... In each of those games we were able to rely on Davis, Smith, McGeady, Green
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
That is so selective. I would counter that we could have played Gnanduillet, Maddison, Wilkes & Toney if we had signed those 4 instead.
I have no idea what point your trying to prove there?
People are saying that ESI's business wasnt good enough and have been others question whether the was any point in getting the takeover done for the transfer window
Yet we've picked up three wins with the players we've signed, had we brought in no one then Id question if we could have got three wins from those three games because for all the effort from the kids (shown the last few months), they didnt quite have enough to get us the wins in that period
The perfect example of that is Doughty, being raved about by everyone yet after one bad game last night suddenly isnt good enough or ready for the first team
Ergo... ESI have done a good job so far!!
As for the players you mention
Gnaduillet: Blackpool wanted stupid money Maddison: Is a prick and a flop at Hull Wilkes: Okay now your naming players we werent linked with Toney: Yeah okay, stay in dreamland!!
At least we haven't been saddled with Maddison and all that comes with him - he was an 89th minute substitute in Hull's game at Preston but started last night and was brought off at half time. This is what one Hull supporter said about him on their forum about his performance:
Maddison was a pathetic excuse of a footballer. Bottled every single challenge and when he had a chance to shoot decided to go over looking for a penalty. His non performance tonight was truly awful and smacks of a loan player that doesnt give a fhck and doesnt want to be here.
Hull's last 10 matches read - Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 8. We at least have some fight about us whereas it looks as if they have lost the will to battle.
No, but we've been saddled with Smith, who looks far worse than Dempsey, Morgan, Vennings et al.
Were we ever actually in for Maddison? Where's the evidence that we had any money?
So the proof we were in for Maddison surely came from the South London and Peterborough press along with the Peterborough owner?
So as a result of the Transfer Window we've beaten Barnsley - Luton - Forest... In each of those games we were able to rely on Davis, Smith, McGeady, Green
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
That is so selective. I would counter that we could have played Gnanduillet, Maddison, Wilkes & Toney if we had signed those 4 instead.
I would counter we could have signed messi ronaldo pogba and kante, but we didnt so it's pointless suggesting it 🤷♂️
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To lose Gallagher and Leko and replace with very average run-of-the-mill midfielders was clearly inadequate.
I doubt any of those signed were Bowyer's options one or two or even three.
Net result is we look more like a League 1 team than we did in League 1.
I guess one was Madison, bit who were the other two? And what happened?
It would have helped me had Southall not raised my expectations and that made it feel even worse in all honesty. I have the West Brom programme in front of me and you only have to read what was said in that to be disapointed.
We have more chance of staying up than going down though. It is just we could have made the odds even better. No point moaning now. We get behind the team and review based on what happens next.
Green I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to for now because he’s had a couple of good performances. Bowyer doesn’t think Smith or Mcgeady are good enough to play (judging by the fact he brought neither of them on today). And Davis is wank.
Never replaced Gallagher and it’s going to cost us
When we have Williams out injured and Oztumer comes off early, for neither McGeady and Smith to feature tonight is concerning, as it begs the question when they will be of use...
Copied from the Matt Smith thread:
Southall wanking himself off over twitter for bringing in three loans. I know we're still dealing with the foundations of Roland but ESI could have done so much more to ensure our safety this January
Fact is it was no better than a Roland window (the only element that you could possibly argue against is if he would have cashed in on Lyle)..... but difference this time is we have Southall strutting around like he’s the don with his super deal phone load of shat.
Maddison was a pathetic excuse of a footballer. Bottled every single challenge and when he had a chance to shoot decided to go over looking for a penalty. His non performance tonight was truly awful and smacks of a loan player that doesnt give a fhck and doesnt want to be here.
Hull's last 10 matches read - Won 0 Drawn 2 Lost 8. We at least have some fight about us whereas it looks as if they have lost the will to battle.
Easier said than done but would we even have those three wins if we'd still be relying on Morgan, Dempsey, Vennings, Davison?
The answer is in the Swansea and West Brom (FA Cup performances) - Of course it would have been highly unlikely if we'd have had those nine extra points because for all their effort there is a lack of experience from those kids
So in that regard, January has been a good window as where would we be without those points?
Our form is still good. Last night's performance against a rubbish side was very dispiriting but if we beat Hudds we will have continued our form of winning every other game, and 3 points out of 6 every time will probably keep us in the division unless the teams below us continue to Megazord themselves up every week. Even if they do, beating the teams we have coming up will drag them down into the soup with us anyway, so things could look different yet again by the end of the weekend. It can still be ok.
Were we ever actually in for Maddison? Where's the evidence that we had any money?
People are saying that ESI's business wasnt good enough and have been others question whether the was any point in getting the takeover done for the transfer window
Yet we've picked up three wins with the players we've signed, had we brought in no one then Id question if we could have got three wins from those three games because for all the effort from the kids (shown the last few months), they didnt quite have enough to get us the wins in that period
The perfect example of that is Doughty, being raved about by everyone yet after one bad game last night suddenly isnt good enough or ready for the first team
Ergo... ESI have done a good job so far!!
As for the players you mention
Gnaduillet: Blackpool wanted stupid money
Maddison: Is a prick and a flop at Hull
Wilkes: Okay now your naming players we werent linked with
Toney: Yeah okay, stay in dreamland!!