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Is Lockdown easing gradually?
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Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.3 -
Geezer sat 2mtr away on my bus, coughing and spluttering, not even covering his trap! I got up and sat at the front of the bus.
This after coming out of Morrisons where social distancing was blatantly ignored, this has not been helped with the amount of people being allowed in. It was not much different to a normal Sunday.0 -
And this is the thing.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
How will we come out of lockdown?
Not much will be able to open, ie pubs , bars , restaurants , cinema and other things.
So when we partially open people will flock to open spaces like the beach because there's f@ck all else to do.
Will be tens of thousands of people descending on our beaches, can the government say you have to be 30 miles from a beach to go there.
I can't see a way out and I think the government are finding it hard.0 -
On the spot fines for people not adhering to Government requests. That'll make the idiots think for once.clb74 said:
And this is the thing.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
How will we come out of lockdown?
Not much will be able to open, ie pubs , bars , restaurants , cinema and other things.
So when we partially open people will flock to open spaces like the beach because there's f@ck all else to do.
Will be tens of thousands of people descending on our beaches, can the government say you have to be 30 miles from a beach to go there.
I can't see a way out and I think the government are finding it hard.3 -
I honestly think the government are “fine” with the rule breaking as it’ll create the herd immunity factor but at a scale where hospitals can cope.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
It’s almost certain to cost more lives in the long run but that’s “ok” to prevent complete paralysis.
And I think I’m good with that which goes a bit against my normal view of things which is strange.1 -
Elfs I'm saying how are we going to open the lockdown up?ElfsborgAddick said:
On the spot fines for people not adhering to Government requests. That'll make the idiots think for once.clb74 said:
And this is the thing.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
How will we come out of lockdown?
Not much will be able to open, ie pubs , bars , restaurants , cinema and other things.
So when we partially open people will flock to open spaces like the beach because there's f@ck all else to do.
Will be tens of thousands of people descending on our beaches, can the government say you have to be 30 miles from a beach to go there.
I can't see a way out and I think the government are finding it hard.0 -
A bit like my spending habits, little by little.clb74 said:
Elfs I'm saying how are we going to open the lockdown up?ElfsborgAddick said:
On the spot fines for people not adhering to Government requests. That'll make the idiots think for once.clb74 said:
And this is the thing.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
How will we come out of lockdown?
Not much will be able to open, ie pubs , bars , restaurants , cinema and other things.
So when we partially open people will flock to open spaces like the beach because there's f@ck all else to do.
Will be tens of thousands of people descending on our beaches, can the government say you have to be 30 miles from a beach to go there.
I can't see a way out and I think the government are finding it hard.
Limited people allowed in shops, restaurants, cinemas etc. Security employed to ensure distancing.
As for public transport, f*** knows.0 -
That's the one for me. I guess the majority of people will continue to work from home, and those who can't, maybe businesses will be more flexible in there working times to try and avoid 'rush hours' - can't see it working myself.ElfsborgAddick said:
A bit like my spending habits, little by little.clb74 said:
Elfs I'm saying how are we going to open the lockdown up?ElfsborgAddick said:
On the spot fines for people not adhering to Government requests. That'll make the idiots think for once.clb74 said:
And this is the thing.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
How will we come out of lockdown?
Not much will be able to open, ie pubs , bars , restaurants , cinema and other things.
So when we partially open people will flock to open spaces like the beach because there's f@ck all else to do.
Will be tens of thousands of people descending on our beaches, can the government say you have to be 30 miles from a beach to go there.
I can't see a way out and I think the government are finding it hard.
Limited people allowed in shops, restaurants, cinemas etc. Security employed to ensure distancing.
As for public transport, f*** knows.
Maybe masks are the miracle protective equipment everyone is banging on about and we will all be fine?0 -
They love it don't they?Arsenetatters said:I am going to ease my neighbours power tool up his arse if he doesn’t stop it soon.
Bit of sunshine and we have a 'look at me let's see who can make the most noise competition!' I've listened to a patio washer, a lawnmower and a strimmer most of today and now the other side are starting up. That's before you think about the cars and motor bikes without silencers on their exhausts.
When I was young you'd run the risk of getting nicked if you didn't have a silencer on the exhaust. Now it's de rigeur!3 -
Just back from a walk with Little Miss Idle along the towpath across from Shiplake. Two paddle boarders on the river and that was it - would normally be full of craft on a day like this, so pretty impressive. I think even they were just paddling out of their posh riverside gardens.
That said, when you see how some selfish arseholes behave, it's enough to make you search for crossbows and tear gas grenades on ebay.
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Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.1 -
Can say the same for Eltham. Live on Rochester Way and can actually have the windows open at night it's been that quiet.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Lockdown is just like a football crowd. There's definitely some idiots amongst the crowd, but they are only a small minority and in fact most people are doing things properly.4 -
What, the local alcoholics aren't social distancing, I can't believe it.msomerton said:Where I am in Peckham Rye there has been a noticeable increase in cars on the road and foot and bicycle traffic in the last 7 days. the pavement nearly as buisy as before lock down. Also people seem to be less strict on social distancing, going around in small groups more. I policeman freind of mine thinks that south London is less strict on following the lock down rules than the boroughs north of the river.Looking out of my window now I feel he could be correct, one group who have ignored the lock down from the start are the extra strong larger and cider drinks that frequent many park benches even before lock down. there is a group of 4-5 that congrgate on the green opposite every morning they even share cans.0 -
Drove passed the Tesco express by Plaistow green roundabout and very quiet going and coming back. A few walkers and a few cars but that was it. I’ve felt the residents of BR1 & BR7 have taken this seriously.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.1 -
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.0 -
Your neighbours probably feel the same way.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.15 -
clive said:
Your neighbours probably feel the same way.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
F***** him there mate.1 -
But you live across the road from possibly the biggest supermarket in Bromley.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Supermarkets are about the only place people can and need to go in significant numbers.
It's no surprise that the traffic is higher in Homesdale Road, than the centre of Bromley, where nearly all the shops, restaurants, gyms etc are closed.2 -
I’m not sure it will create more deaths in the long term.WSS said:
I honestly think the government are “fine” with the rule breaking as it’ll create the herd immunity factor but at a scale where hospitals can cope.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
It’s almost certain to cost more lives in the long run but that’s “ok” to prevent complete paralysis.
And I think I’m good with that which goes a bit against my normal view of things which is strange.
There seem to be four options:
A) whole world goes into full lockdown for 6 weeks and the virus and disease die off and we all go back to full normal (seems unlikely this could be achieved)
B ) countries choose to keep lockdown in some form with, in the end herd immunity across the globe. Could take years depending on how locked down people are. Nearly everyone will contract the virus and around 1% or more of the world population will die. (Lots of people will die from non-COVID-19 illness as well as from COVID-19)
C) countries keep lock down sufficient to keep health services operational, manage the health services and hope to god a vaccine or a killer treatment emerge that allows quicker litigating of the lockdowns (basically most country’s strategy. Do not overwhelm the health services but gradually increase immunity at the same time)
D) lift all restrictions early and let a whole load more people die than is necessary if the health service can’t manage case load (see Sweden)
one thing is for sure will be with us for a year or two given that A) doesn’t seem feasible.0 -
Covered End said:
But you live across the road from possibly the biggest supermarket in Bromley.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Supermarkets are about the only place people can and need to go in significant numbers.
It's no surprise that the traffic is higher in Homesdale Road, than the centre of Bromley, where nearly all the shops, restaurants, gyms etc are closed.It'll be even busier when the Lord Homesdale reopens.
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One of the few pubs I haven’t been to in my 6 years as a bromley resident. Always thought it looked shit, worth a visit?ElfsborgAddick said:Covered End said:
But you live across the road from possibly the biggest supermarket in Bromley.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Supermarkets are about the only place people can and need to go in significant numbers.
It's no surprise that the traffic is higher in Homesdale Road, than the centre of Bromley, where nearly all the shops, restaurants, gyms etc are closed.It'll be even busier when the Lord Homesdale reopens.0 -
The most cringe worthy thing I saw (and heard today) was a bloke in his 50s (I'm guessing) in an top down Saab Convertible blasting out Whitney Houston (the MOR period) at some ridiculous volume...LenGlover said:
They love it don't they?Arsenetatters said:I am going to ease my neighbours power tool up his arse if he doesn’t stop it soon.
Bit of sunshine and we have a 'look at me let's see who can make the most noise competition!' I've listened to a patio washer, a lawnmower and a strimmer most of today and now the other side are starting up. That's before you think about the cars and motor bikes without silencers on their exhausts.
When I was young you'd run the risk of getting nicked if you didn't have a silencer on the exhaust. Now it's de rigeur!2 -
You’re quite right. Rent a mob. Same bloody lot who won votes for women and got rid of the poll tax.DA9 said:
Always had this theory that people like this are just rent a mob/professional protesters, if god forbid the conservative government or trump came up with a cure for cancer they and their ilk across the pond would find something about it to protest overalan dugdale said:
I think some people just have to protest about anything. They would probably have protested if no lockdown had been implemented. Imagine Christmas in the Corbyn household, when they were kids ? The tantrums !southamptonaddick said:
I just don't get some people. Do they think the Government are just putting these measures in place for a laugh.alan dugdale said:There’s been no noticeable increase in people or traffic where I am in Somerset. That said, about 40 people held a demo in Glastonbury yesterday (including Piers Corbyn) apparently against the lockdown.
Piers Corbyn is that Piers Morgan and Jeremy Corbyns love child?1 -
Yeah, it's okay for a lager drinker 4/10.stop_shouting said:
One of the few pubs I haven’t been to in my 6 years as a bromley resident. Always thought it looked shit, worth a visit?ElfsborgAddick said:Covered End said:
But you live across the road from possibly the biggest supermarket in Bromley.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Supermarkets are about the only place people can and need to go in significant numbers.
It's no surprise that the traffic is higher in Homesdale Road, than the centre of Bromley, where nearly all the shops, restaurants, gyms etc are closed.It'll be even busier when the Lord Homesdale reopens.
The downside is @clb74 lives 2 minutes away and you could bump into him.
What others have you not been to?0 -
Cars and bikes without silencers are a menace. I too remember when I was young, my dad saying that if the silencer broke then it had to be fixed immediately or the police would fine you. I live on a 30 mph main road and every weekend the boy racers are out driving at stupid speeds, with their modified exhausts. They are still going out during the lockdown and I'm certain they're not shopping for essentials or taking exercise. They also seem to have the loudest bass and think that everyone else wants to hear it.LenGlover said:
They love it don't they?Arsenetatters said:I am going to ease my neighbours power tool up his arse if he doesn’t stop it soon.
Bit of sunshine and we have a 'look at me let's see who can make the most noise competition!' I've listened to a patio washer, a lawnmower and a strimmer most of today and now the other side are starting up. That's before you think about the cars and motor bikes without silencers on their exhausts.
When I was young you'd run the risk of getting nicked if you didn't have a silencer on the exhaust. Now it's de rigeur!
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Yep, been a fair few of those arseholes about, loud motorbikes similarly, blasting up the A4. It's a mile and a half away, but they're clearly audible.ME14addick said:
Cars and bikes without silencers are a menace. I too remember when I was young, my dad saying that if the silencer broke then it had to be fixed immediately or the police would fine you. I live on a 30 mph main road and every weekend the boy racers are out driving at stupid speeds, with their modified exhausts. They are still going out during the lockdown and I'm certain they're not shopping for essentials or taking exercise. They also seem to have the loudest bass and think that everyone else wants to hear it.LenGlover said:
They love it don't they?Arsenetatters said:I am going to ease my neighbours power tool up his arse if he doesn’t stop it soon.
Bit of sunshine and we have a 'look at me let's see who can make the most noise competition!' I've listened to a patio washer, a lawnmower and a strimmer most of today and now the other side are starting up. That's before you think about the cars and motor bikes without silencers on their exhausts.
When I was young you'd run the risk of getting nicked if you didn't have a silencer on the exhaust. Now it's de rigeur!2 -
Also a few out and about with sound systems blaring away. Why the fuck to some cretins seem to assume that I want to sit in the privacy of my own garden listening to their shite. Same goes for those barbying in the garden with their patio doors open with their sounds blasting out. Wankers.8
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The WHO is saying there is no evidence that having it conveys immunity. Herd immunity comes through effective vaccination not letting people go about there normal lives and hoping for the best.WSS said:
I honestly think the government are “fine” with the rule breaking as it’ll create the herd immunity factor but at a scale where hospitals can cope.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
It’s almost certain to cost more lives in the long run but that’s “ok” to prevent complete paralysis.
And I think I’m good with that which goes a bit against my normal view of things which is strange.
It was a very dangerous idea that they suggested and they quickly backtracked yet the idea now persists amongst the population.
We will need to adapt to a new normal as they say, whatever shape that my take, and people carrying on as they were are just putting others at an unnecessarily increased risk.1 -
moutuakilla said:
The WHO is saying there is no evidence that having it conveys immunity. Herd immunity comes through effective vaccination not letting people go about there normal lives and hoping for the best.WSS said:
I honestly think the government are “fine” with the rule breaking as it’ll create the herd immunity factor but at a scale where hospitals can cope.Bournemouth Addick said:Been out and about this last week for work purposes and there's definitely more traffic about, which may be connected with the Easter half term finishing. Also, this time last week and the few weeks before the beaches were virtually empty. Today and yesterday lots more people just sat on it, playing bat and ball, building sandcastles, etc.
I reckon the government need to get on top of this double quick or it'll completely break down.
It’s almost certain to cost more lives in the long run but that’s “ok” to prevent complete paralysis.
And I think I’m good with that which goes a bit against my normal view of things which is strange.
It was a very dangerous idea that they suggested and they quickly backtracked yet the idea now persists amongst the population.
We will need to adapt to a new normal as they say, whatever shape that my take, and people carrying on as they were are just putting others at an unnecessarily increased risk.
That research is ongoing and it is therefore correct to say that there is currently no evidence that having it conveys immunity. That doesn't mean it doesn't convey some sort of immunity, just that there is currently no evidence.
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Dont bother stop shouting, even if it does reopen youd still think the lockdown was on.stop_shouting said:
One of the few pubs I haven’t been to in my 6 years as a bromley resident. Always thought it looked shit, worth a visit?ElfsborgAddick said:Covered End said:
But you live across the road from possibly the biggest supermarket in Bromley.clb74 said:
Im living in the wrong part of Bromley then.Covered End said:
Bromley has been and still is generally very quiet.ShootersHillGuru said:I don’t think I’ve seen a policeman since the lockdown. South East London as far as I can see is traffic almost as normal.
Supermarkets are about the only place people can and need to go in significant numbers.
It's no surprise that the traffic is higher in Homesdale Road, than the centre of Bromley, where nearly all the shops, restaurants, gyms etc are closed.It'll be even busier when the Lord Homesdale reopens.
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