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Arsenal Friendly today (we got smashed 6-0)

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  • Sage said:
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    If I try to log on it makes me want to sign up to the Arsenal site.

    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    If it wasn't for Phillips we could've been 5 down at half time.

    Marking in the second half was appalling. About 4 men unmarked at a set piece and Nketiah was given about 15 yards free to run on and score.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Sage said:
    Anyone got definative line ups and substitutions?
    First half:

    Phillips
    Matthews Oshilaja Pearce Purrington
    Green Cullen Forster-Caskey McGeady
    Aneke
    Hemed

    Field came on in the first half, presumably for Forster-Caskey, but that’s a guess.


    Second half:

    Amos
    Lapslie Lockyer Sarr Page
    Williams Pratley Morgan Doughty
    Oztumer
    Bonne

    Smith and Davison came on in second half. I think Williams may have been one of the players who didn’t complete the full second half, Page possibly the other.



    So no Adam Matthews?
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Played in the first half.
  • At least we didn’t give away any secrets about our set pieces to Hull. We never got in their half.
  • Sage said:
    You need to sign in with one of Facebook / twitter / google to watch
    If I try to log on it makes me want to sign up to the Arsenal site.

    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    If it wasn't for Phillips we could've been 5 down at half time.

    Marking in the second half was appalling. About 4 men unmarked at a set piece and Nketiah was given about 15 yards free to run on and score.
    Not looking good defensively.
  • sinceiwasyoung
    sinceiwasyoung Posts: 1,040
    I think I read somewhere there was an agreement between the two clubs that Charlton couldn't tackle the Arsenal players  .
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited June 2020
    Sage said:
    You need to sign in with one of Facebook / twitter / google to watch
    If I try to log on it makes me want to sign up to the Arsenal site.

    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    If it wasn't for Phillips we could've been 5 down at half time.

    Marking in the second half was appalling. About 4 men unmarked at a set piece and Nketiah was given about 15 yards free to run on and score.
    Not looking good defensively.
    Thankfully Hull dont have the Strikers that Arsenal do

    Oshilaja is already into next week after being sent there for Aubamayang's goal
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited June 2020
    Sage said:
    You need to sign in with one of Facebook / twitter / google to watch
    If I try to log on it makes me want to sign up to the Arsenal site.

    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    If it wasn't for Phillips we could've been 5 down at half time.

    Marking in the second half was appalling. About 4 men unmarked at a set piece and Nketiah was given about 15 yards free to run on and score.
    Not looking good defensively.
    I mean to be be fair it was against Arsenal, a team that scored 4 against Newcastle and 3 against Everton in the last couple of months before lockdown.

    They are also a week ahead of us, and lets face it just 1 of their players is on more than our whole squad put together.

    I mean for what they spent on Pepe you could buy The Club, Sparrows Lane , The Valley and what we have bought every current player for and you would still have money left over lol
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    I think I read somewhere there was an agreement between the two clubs that Charlton couldn't tackle the Arsenal players  .
    No need for an agreement we haven’t been tackling players all year! 
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    I don't think you can read too much into this game. It was more fitness and get a proper run out. 

    Good to see Page and Chuks out there too and to use 25 players shows there is some depth there if required. 
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    edited June 2020
    Sage said:
    You need to sign in with one of Facebook / twitter / google to watch
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    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    Thanks for posting that.

    I think playing in empty stadiums is going to produce some strange results. As a pp has said, we looked at all sea in the 2nd half & looked like the defence had given up. Wouldnt surprise me if we see quite a few results like that in the weeks to come. Teams with no support behind them wont just have the passion or urge to play "out of their skins". No last 10 min pressure to grab that equaliser/ winner. With no crowd urging them on to force corner after corner. 

    I think once a team is 2-0 then that will be that, epecially if its top v bottom or a team with nothing to play for.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Have to admit, thats a great long ball from Forster-Caskey at the beginning!!...

    Really dont get why Aneke chose to shoot from looked like a tight angle, he did well to get into the position though
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Best atmosphere coming out of the Emirates for many a long year.
  • Well that wasn't very friendly was it. Bastards
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    I know it was only a kick about, but I really hope we can up our game before Hull. 
  • ColinTat
    ColinTat Posts: 2,794
    When we do play Champ matches I'd like to see both Pratley and Field play together.  I think Cullen, Ward, Williams, Oztumer, Mcgeady have enough to break teams down.  The main worry is I remember Hemed being effective with his head and we're not that sort of team from open play.  We all know the issue is without Taylor where will the goals come from?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    edited June 2020
    Sage said:
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    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    Because the video is such horrific viewing I've asked the mods to put this thread in the Social Groups section. Hope that's OK with everyone.
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    Watched the highlights and thought “my god what’s happened to Dills in the second half, he’s shocking” then on seeing a close up realised it was Amos :joy:

    If we lose Dills for any reason we’re in trouble.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    EastStand said:
    Watched the highlights and thought “my god what’s happened to Dills in the second half, he’s shocking” then on seeing a close up realised it was Amos :joy:

    If we lose Dills for any reason we’re in trouble.
    Amos made a couple of decent saves I thought
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    EastStand said:
    Watched the highlights and thought “my god what’s happened to Dills in the second half, he’s shocking” then on seeing a close up realised it was Amos :joy:

    If we lose Dills for any reason we’re in trouble.
    Amos made a couple of decent saves I thought
    Yeah he’s a decent keeper, I’m not knocking the lad. He’s just not the same level as Phillips. 
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  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,839
    SamB09 said:
    Basey was the ref??
    Yeah, officials werent allowed at the game

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52896129
    If you're not allowed to travel for more than 90 minutes, it explains why we didn't play at Palace.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,038
    Sage said:
    You need to sign in with one of Facebook / twitter / google to watch
    If I try to log on it makes me want to sign up to the Arsenal site.

    Can the feckers just post the video as normal. Why make it so fecking hard. Its was a kick about ffs.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    Thanks for posting that.

    I think playing in empty stadiums is going to produce some strange results. As a pp has said, we looked at all sea in the 2nd half & looked like the defence had given up. Wouldnt surprise me if we see quite a few results like that in the weeks to come. Teams with no support behind them wont just have the passion or urge to play "out of their skins". No last 10 min pressure to grab that equaliser/ winner. With no crowd urging them on to force corner after corner. 

    I think once a team is 2-0 then that will be that, epecially if its top v bottom or a team with nothing to play for.
    Yesterday was a strange result, I was not expecting a 6-0 defeat.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Sage said:
    This picture clearly shows

    Phillips
    Matthews Oshilaja Pearce Purrington
    Green Cullen Forster-Caskey McGeady
    Aneke
    Hemed

    I like it if we're looking to play 4-2-3-1. Think with McGrady and Green we have a couple of wide players who can give defenses fits. More attacking than 5-2-1-2. And I don't think the diamond has worked all that well since we lost Gallagher. We really need someone in one of the side roles who can drive forward and create. We just don't really have that player apart from maybe Williams and maybe JFC if he's fully fit and firing. But both have roles they're better suited to.

    I thunk 4-2-3-1 give our defense good protection with two midfielders from Cullen, Field, JFC, Smith, and Pratley, plus a lesser dependence on strikers through the middle and instead offsetting players like Williams or Aneke off the forward (Bonne and Hemed can play up front on their own), plus McGready and Green playing in their preferred positions--out wide, with Williams and Oz also able to play there. And we have three #10s in Aneke, Oz, and Williams.

    I desperately hope Chuks stays fit. He's my dark horse to play a major role in the run in if fit. He can pick the ball up and drive at defenses. And he seemed to give some defenses fits early in the season. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    edited June 2020
    If Page is fit it gives Bowyer the option of 5-3-2 with overlapping full backs.

    Lee seems to prefer two up front so Aneka, Hemed, Green or Bonne up top.
    Cullen and either Pratley or Field holding, Williams, Aneke or Oz behind the front two.

    Three of Pearce, Osiliga, Lockyer and Sarr at the back.

    Philips a given in goal.

    JFC could be a wild card as could Lapslie and Dougherty.

    But we know Bows picks teams for the opposition so he will change it around for that and rotate to rest players.


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Interesting tweet from Jason Pearce... makes me wonder if Charlton players werent allowed to tackle yesterday?


  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    RedPanda said:
    Just been on Palace's Twitter to see if they confirm anything, they're instead advertising that they're now the world's oldest professional club.

    I know that was mentioned on here but I didn't think those morons would run with it. So bloody desperate and cringe worthy.  
    Well one of their fans think our FA Cup win was achieved during WW2 so history really isnt their strong point
    Let's face it, nothing is their strong point.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    MrLargo said:
    RedPanda said:
    Just been on Palace's Twitter to see if they confirm anything, they're instead advertising that they're now the world's oldest professional club.

    I know that was mentioned on here but I didn't think those morons would run with it. So bloody desperate and cringe worthy.  
    They are pathetic. This'll "oldest club" thing will be on written on their shirts next season, just like the boroughs of South London thing a couple of years ago.

    I'd be genuinely embarrassed if I'd had the misfortune of being born a Palace fan.
    I know they have won nothing and done nothing in their history but imagine how crap they must have been that they managed to forget they were formed in 1861 and have instead publicised their founding in 1905 ever since! Almost as if they wanted to be noticed for the first time in 1905 for some reason....
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    se9addick said:
    I know it was only a kick about, but I really hope we can up our game before Hull. 
    Yeah, our tackling was non-existent.  :smile:

  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    at least the team got some 'real' game time up against top opposition .. the thing is not to let the 6-0 damage morale but make it act as an incentive not to get hammered ever again, even in a friendly
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    RedChaser said:
    Highlights also here on YouTube 
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1g_e77bPAI
    thanks for that Red .. some top class shooting there from the Gunners, quality you rarely see in the Championship