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Charlton v Wigan | Sat 18 July, 2020 | Post-match thread

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  • Oggy Red said:
    In context of scoring twice in our draw against an in-form side, before today Wigan had taken 23 points from their last 10 games, including 9 clean sheets.


    Yes their defence looked surprisingly unsure against our "raw" strikeforce, for a team with all those shutouts
  • LouisMend said:
    I guess we'll go with Hemed on Wednesday against Leeds if he doesnt feel so tired unless Davison has truly given Bowyer something to think about

    Aneke used as an impact player for the last 40-30mins is a good approach but he needs to be more clever when the opposition start buying fouls

    Says a lot though that we needed a goal towards the end and we didnt see an appearance from Andre Green
  • LouisMend said:
    I guess we'll go with Hemed on Wednesday against Leeds if he doesnt feel so tired unless Davison has truly given Bowyer something to think about

    Aneke used as an impact player for the last 40-30mins is a good approach but he needs to be more clever when the opposition start buying fouls

    Says a lot though that we needed a goal towards the end and we didnt see an appearance from Andre Green
    Davison looked far more likely to create something than Hemed has ever done. Unless he plays on Wednesday, Hemed will go the WHOLE season without scoring
    Something he's not done since 2007/08 season with Maccabi Haifa
  • Watched a re-run of the play off final on Sky football this evening. Need one more game with the same fighting spirit on Wednesday 🤞
  • Dansk_Red said:
    The cross field ball by Naddy Sarr to Bonne for the one to one on the keeper was pure class.
    I do wonder if there is a way he could play midfield.  When he plays out defence always looks worse but his distribution is outstanding.
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  • Just seen the highlights. Poor clearance by Lockyer for the first but hardly a howler. Should still have been able to defend it really. Their second was good football after Cullen loses out a bit weakly in midfield. Lack of pace and desire from Lockyer though to let his man go past him too easily. Great volley from Alfie for our first. Great flick from Aneke and even better finish from Bonne for the equaliser.
  • Dansk_Red said:
    The cross field ball by Naddy Sarr to Bonne for the one to one on the keeper was pure class.
    I do wonder if there is a way he could play midfield.  When he plays out defence always looks worse but his distribution is outstanding.
    Would be typical Charlton that he ends up leaving to go Millwall and they play him in the middle and he becomes the new Pogba
  • edited July 2020
    Dansk_Red said:
    The cross field ball by Naddy Sarr to Bonne for the one to one on the keeper was pure class.
    I do wonder if there is a way he could play midfield.  When he plays out defence always looks worse but his distribution is outstanding.
    Play him at centre-half-back at the base of the diamond; he'd provide a bit of cover for the centre of defence, could drop back to make it a back three/five if necessary, is very accurate with his passing (as long as team-mates keep their eye on the ball, eh Dillon?  ;)) over long and short distances.

    Oh, and let him loose on free-kicks around the box too.

    EDIT: I said on numerous occasions last season that Naby always looked more uncomfortable in defence when Pearce was playing; there's something about how the skipper plays that seems to affect BeckenSarr's positioning and therefore his temperament. I don't know why that should be. He was solid playing alongside the BFG (a right foot/left foot pairing) but alongside the left-footed Pearce, in either a back three or at left-back, Naby struggles.
  • Wherever his best position is, he will thrive at a club that will let him do his thing. Maybe if Watford go down they can sign him as a replacement for his namesake (and save money on shirt printing)
  • I mean, what they'll lose in wingplay, they'll gain in pure Pirlo magic. Capoue, Cleverly...your time is over
  • Also, I think we're 90% safe now. Wigan are playing Fulham, who still have an outside shot of automatic promotion. I can't see Fulham losing that game. Well, about 90% can't. (Luton will probably at least draw with Blackburn tbh)
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  • Is Lockyer not a clumsy cnut sometimes? What the hell was he doing for their opener. I thought he should have cut out Birmingham's equaliser too. Is it because Naby looks clumsier that he gets more of a reputation. One thing is for sure, his passing is better than Pearce's or Lockyer's and that pass to Bonne was sublime. Not many of our players are capable of that. 
    It's from December last year so it may look very different now, but its funny you mention Lockyer's passing


  • edited July 2020
    Sarr's passing is more incisive so will naturally will have a lesser success rate. A lot of Lockyer and Pearce's passes are to each other and go nowhere. Look at assists and even parts in goals and you will see Sarr's worth. Think about that cross in the Forest game for Taylor's goal. Even more sublime than today's. Think when Sarr has put a wide player through to cause offensive threat.

    I am not trying to be critical of Lockyer though, just throwing the criticism aimed at Sarr back based on Lockyer who I think has been an excellent signing for us.
  • edited July 2020
    Sarr's passing is more incisive so will naturally will have a lesser success rate. A lot of Lockyer and Pearce's passes are to each other and go nowhere. Look at assists and even parts in goals and you will see Sarr's worth. Think about that cross in the Forest game for Taylor's goal. Even more sublime than today's. Think when Sarr has put a wide player through to cause offensive threat.

    I am not trying to be critical of Lockyer though, just throwing the criticism aimed at Sarr back based on Lockyer who I think has been an excellent signing for us.
    Yeah, if only Sarr's ball to Bonne today had been a little further forward it could've been a carbon copy of the Forest goal, was almost too good a ball to Bonne's feet in that position. Scrap all that talking shite, just seen it back again
  • Leuth said:
    My feelings for Naby are pure as the driven snow. I've often explained why he's such a one-off - a unique combination of underdog, long-serving player, loveable cult hero, fallible talent and absolute baller. What other Charlton player in living memory comes close? Maybe if like...Claus Jensen had been even more languid and much more charismatic off the pitch (but also froze occasionally). Or if Astrit Ajdarevic had signed a 5-year contract. (The problem with Roland - he didn't go crazy enough, eh?)
    Oh wait. Yann obv lol
  • Can you imagine if Roland hadn't sold Yann but had still signed Naby? There'd be a statue of the old fella outside the West Stand by now and we'd be two leagues above Palace
  • Leuth said:
    Leuth said:
    My feelings for Naby are pure as the driven snow. I've often explained why he's such a one-off - a unique combination of underdog, long-serving player, loveable cult hero, fallible talent and absolute baller. What other Charlton player in living memory comes close? Maybe if like...Claus Jensen had been even more languid and much more charismatic off the pitch (but also froze occasionally). Or if Astrit Ajdarevic had signed a 5-year contract. (The problem with Roland - he didn't go crazy enough, eh?)
    Oh wait. Yann obv lol
    Well if your putting in Yann then i will put in Mendonca so where will it stop?
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