There are perhaps 2 shows worth listening to on Talkshite, Danny Kelly being one of them, but even these are ruined by the constant adverts. JW and Durham/Gough are the worst offenders. Utter sensationalised bollocks.
Why don't Dodger etc just release the information they have on twitter? It will spread just as fast as on talkshite.
To be honest all of this shows why fans should work together under the auspices of CARD/CAST. Lone wolfing it doesn’t produce great results and that “interview” on the JW show is a case in point.
Problem is, I suspect they won't want to hand the docs over to CAST or VOTV as they'll see that as an acknowledgement that their fans group isn't as effective as they would like. They might see it as giving away their ammunition.
Farnell would just trot out the same line he said to the guy on linked in.
We can't make any comment until the EFL have approved us.
1 ESI of which Panorama own 65% (Nimer is one of 2 shareholders) & Southall 35%. 2 To flip the club at a profit. 3 Dodger says it's someone called Kashi (or similar). 4 Unknown. 5 Unknown. 6 Why would you suggest fans offer financial support, at the same time as telling fans it's a bad idea to buy a S/T?
Farnell would just trot out the same line he said to the guy on linked in.
We can't make any comment until the EFL have approved us.
1 Panorama 65% of which Nimer is a shareholder & Southall 35%. 2 To flip the club at a profit. 3 Dodger says it's someone called Kashi (or similar). 4 Unknown. 5 Unknown. 6 Why would you suggest fans offer financial support, at the same time as telling fans it's a bad idea to buy a S/T?
1 is ESI of which Panorama own 65% and Southall 35%. Nimer is one of 2 shareholders in Panorama. % unknown.
I think if someone who has a grip on what is going on could articulate a summary and send it to Simon Jordan he would be an unlikely ally.
I follow this thread daily and still get lost as a diehard Charlton supporter. It's unrealistic to expect the likes of Jim White et al to be all over this like Dispatches to quote @golfaddick . They don't have the commercial motivation to do so as it is tabloid radio.
However Simon Jordan has a bit about him. Was never a fan but he grew on me when I read his autobiography and he has been around the block and seems to have matured a bit. He was the good guy in the whole Dowie incident regardless of how we might want to spin it given our allegiance...the club and those involved in that didn't cover themselves in grace or with their subsequent relegation....whilst it is acceptable and encouraged to revere in relegating rivals as fans; at board level perhaps a bit more class could have been maintained.
Jordan even says at the outset of the interview the disdain he holds is for our former ownership not the fanbase.
He has done more to publicly speak out for Charlton and its fans and admonish treacherous owners in recent years than supposed Charlton people like his former nemesis Murray.
I think if someone could get a concise and clear summary of what has gone on/ is going on and our concerns and allow him to digest it he would get a better grasp of the situation and be better informed.
White, Jordan and Talksport are not the enemy here but have very different motivations than us and won't have the time and resources to do the requisite digging (or risk legal challenge) so it pretty much needs to be legally watertight and put on a plate for them to avoid any confusion and really emphasise our concerns.
Can't someone who has any connection to Talksport get in touch with them and give a full rundown on what is actually going on. Airman, I seem to remember you have a line into Jim White??. Absolute joke of an interview and an insult to the fans!!
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
honestly think that if dodger or smiffyboy have actual hard physical evidence they should approach CAST or @AirmanBrown for help in getting it out into the public domain. Talksport are not going to give airtime to anything where there could be comeback on them or quote evidence that they can't collaborate and may have come from iffy sources. Dodger and smiffyboy may be anti CAST but they have experience in different fields on board and have contacts too that could help. Time to pull together people.
But why would CAST or Rick risk publicising 'evidence' that couldn't be corroborated and/or from an iffy source?
I wasn't suggesting they did, I was suggesting they may be better placed to determine what could or could not be shared and have access to other resources/contacts.
Why don't Dodger etc just release the information they have on twitter? It will spread just as fast as on talkshite.
To be honest all of this shows why fans should work together under the auspices of CARD/CAST. Lone wolfing it doesn’t produce great results and that “interview” on the JW show is a case in point.
Problem is, I suspect they won't want to hand the docs over to CAST or VOTV as they'll see that as an acknowledgement that their fans group isn't as effective as they would like. They might see it as giving away their ammunition.
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
Well that went well. I get why some fans want to be more aggressively pro-active in exposing and pursuing the ownership shit show that is dragging the club down. But if I was privy to information that blow the lid on this shenanigans I would personally take it to CAST or Rick Everett for advice on how to best utilise the info This feels to me like the scattergun rantings of people on their own ego trip. Good luck to them but I think TS for one has played them for a fool
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
The 'Golden Triangle' of Wilmslow, Alderley Edge and Prestbury contains a very high percentage of 'shit don't stink' morons - I agree. Just a home for Mancs who can afford Range Rovers - but they're still Mancs!
We avoided it like the plague when looking for houses and settled on south Cheshire - far more civilised (until we moved in!).
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
The 'Golden Triangle' of Wilmslow, Alderley Edge and Prestbury contains a very high percentage of 'shit don't stink' morons - I agree. Just a home for Mancs who can afford Range Rovers - but they're still Mancs!
We avoided it like the plague when looking for houses and settled on south Cheshire - far more civilised (until we moved in!).
Ha Ha, you think you have trouble, I live in North wales on the Cheshire border but I'm also surrounded by SCOUSERS !!
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
The 'Golden Triangle' of Wilmslow, Alderley Edge and Prestbury contains a very high percentage of 'shit don't stink' morons - I agree. Just a home for Mancs who can afford Range Rovers - but they're still Mancs!
We avoided it like the plague when looking for houses and settled on south Cheshire - far more civilised (until we moved in!).
Ha Ha, you think you have trouble, I live in North wales on the Cheshire border but I'm also surrounded by SCOUSERS !!
Yes, whenever we go to Chester all I can hear are scouse accents.
Those 4 Tweets says all that need to be said as far as I'm concerned. Farnell, Elliot, Burke are no different to Southall, small time trying to play with the big boys. Typical Cheshire, the Essex of the North
Oi 😉
Sorry to generalise mate, but my dealings with people of the Alderly Edge type areas of Cheshire over the last couple of years, ain't been very good experiences. Southall and his Mrs, and the way Burke is coming over, sum it up perfectly to be honest
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
The 'Golden Triangle' of Wilmslow, Alderley Edge and Prestbury contains a very high percentage of 'shit don't stink' morons - I agree. Just a home for Mancs who can afford Range Rovers - but they're still Mancs!
We avoided it like the plague when looking for houses and settled on south Cheshire - far more civilised (until we moved in!).
Ha Ha, you think you have trouble, I live in North wales on the Cheshire border but I'm also surrounded by SCOUSERS !!
Yes, whenever we go to Chester all I can hear are scouse accents.
You should try Chester Races on a rainy day, so much fake tan washing off its like one big oil slick lol
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https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1595322000/1595327400/
Also White & Jordan discuss reaction by fans,begins after about 07 minutes.
https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1595322000/1595329200/
Also, didn't ESI approach the Aussies but they didn't want to 'join in' either?
JW and Durham/Gough are the worst offenders.
Utter sensationalised bollocks.
2 To flip the club at a profit.
3 Dodger says it's someone called Kashi (or similar).
4 Unknown.
5 Unknown.
6 Why would you suggest fans offer financial support, at the same time as telling fans it's a bad idea to buy a S/T?
I follow this thread daily and still get lost as a diehard Charlton supporter. It's unrealistic to expect the likes of Jim White et al to be all over this like Dispatches to quote @golfaddick . They don't have the commercial motivation to do so as it is tabloid radio.
However Simon Jordan has a bit about him. Was never a fan but he grew on me when I read his autobiography and he has been around the block and seems to have matured a bit. He was the good guy in the whole Dowie incident regardless of how we might want to spin it given our allegiance...the club and those involved in that didn't cover themselves in grace or with their subsequent relegation....whilst it is acceptable and encouraged to revere in relegating rivals as fans; at board level perhaps a bit more class could have been maintained.
Jordan even says at the outset of the interview the disdain he holds is for our former ownership not the fanbase.
He has done more to publicly speak out for Charlton and its fans and admonish treacherous owners in recent years than supposed Charlton people like his former nemesis Murray.
I think if someone could get a concise and clear summary of what has gone on/ is going on and our concerns and allow him to digest it he would get a better grasp of the situation and be better informed.
White, Jordan and Talksport are not the enemy here but have very different motivations than us and won't have the time and resources to do the requisite digging (or risk legal challenge) so it pretty much needs to be legally watertight and put on a plate for them to avoid any confusion and really emphasise our concerns.
He wouldn’t be my first port of call for an ally in this
Absolute joke of an interview and an insult to the fans!!
Like the others, he could see it as an opportunity to make some money.
Southall's Mrs a few weeks back - "My 4 year old has probably be on more luxury holidays that you"
Burke alluding to people's education and not being clever enough to engage with him.
The majority I've personally interacted with just seem to go on like their shit don't stink, present company accepted
@CheshireAddick
I get why some fans want to be more aggressively pro-active in exposing and pursuing the ownership shit show that is dragging the club down.
But if I was privy to information that blow the lid on this shenanigans I would personally take it to CAST or Rick Everett for advice on how to best utilise the info
This feels to me like the scattergun rantings of people on their own ego trip.
Good luck to them but I think TS for one has played them for a fool
Things are not always what they seem - I'm a mean bastard really!
Yes, whenever we go to Chester all I can hear are scouse accents.