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Why are so many people not wearing face masks?
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So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.0 -
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
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You can have another what???Addickted said:
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.2 -
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?Addickted said:
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
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I have shagged worseAlwaysneil said:Slightly off topic but does anyone have a view on masks with ventilator holes
Like these cycle masks we bought what seems like an age ago when no other masks were available due demand.
My basic view is that these must be worse for protecting others than a non valve mask because they let you exhale moisture?4 -
Just been in Zante for the week (beautiful place) and while the wearing of masks became compulsory everywhere even on the beach it was very widely ignored. CL rating of 20%.What was disturbing was in the cheap bars people were handshaking and hugging staff and each other. Classic spreading but this was older people like mid 40’s to mid 50’s in large groups and at 2pm as the booze bus started running.1
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clb74 said:
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?Addickted said:
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
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They all have health problems, so they say0
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Two people on my train this morning wearing masks that might as well not have bothered, one was wearing it on his chin and the only covering her mouth and not her nose0
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The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.1
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I am sorry i have skipped a couple of pages to respond, but wtf? you dont wear a seatbelt as it leads to unsafe driving thats a new one. God forbid another wreckless driver doesn't smash into you! Sorry jacob quoted your post and not Jimmy @jimmymelrosejacob_CAFC said:
Seatbelts don't come down to personal choice, do you refuse to wear one of those?jimmymelrose said:I am strongly against face masks because:
1. I do not agree with them being obligatory rather than recommended. It should come down to personal choice.
2. I think they lead to an unconscious lessening of social distancing.
I was wearing one in shops in order to keep people off my back. Now that infection rates are increasing but with fewer hospitalisations I'm leaving it off unless someone asks me to put it on. I politely do so stating that it's their unnecessary fear that's obliging me, not mine.
I personally don't wear one as I think it's unconsciously leads to more unsafe driving.0 -
Exactly my thought process with the whole thing. If it might help stop the spread then that's good enough for me, we all need to be doing our bit.MuttleyCAFC said:The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.2 -
In the long term, I really really don't think wearing masks is a good idea!MuttleyCAFC said:The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
It could screw immunity amongst the population and potentially leave us vulnerable to very minor diseases.
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I can see that, but in the short term and where we find ourselves now, they make sense.0
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Yes.Addickted said:clb74 said:
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?Addickted said:
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?clb74 said:
Leave off.PrincessFiona said:
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolvingJaShea99 said:
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.PrincessFiona said:
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turnsSouthWest_Addicks said:So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
Strawman argument.
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WHO recently said they envisage the pandemic lasting for about 2 years, which is a relatively short time so your argument does not carry any weight.stevexreeve said:
In the long term, I really really don't think wearing masks is a good idea!MuttleyCAFC said:The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
It could screw immunity amongst the population and potentially leave us vulnerable to very minor diseases.
Hopefully this winter we will see fewer colds, coughs and other viruses, because most people are far more mindful of passing any germs they may have onto others.1 -
its an old saying in times of worry and crisis
people revert to type
kind and decent people become even more kind and decent
and the
selfish and cnutish become even more selfish and cnutish13 -
And even more haters ...palarsehater said:its an old saying in times of worry and crisis
people revert to type
kind and decent people become even more kind and decent
and the
selfish and cnutish become even more selfish and cnutish0 -
Whoosh.johnnybev1987 said:
I am sorry i have skipped a couple of pages to respond, but wtf? you dont wear a seatbelt as it leads to unsafe driving thats a new one. God forbid another wreckless driver doesn't smash into you! Sorry jacob quoted your post and not Jimmy @jimmymelrosejacob_CAFC said:
Seatbelts don't come down to personal choice, do you refuse to wear one of those?jimmymelrose said:I am strongly against face masks because:
1. I do not agree with them being obligatory rather than recommended. It should come down to personal choice.
2. I think they lead to an unconscious lessening of social distancing.
I was wearing one in shops in order to keep people off my back. Now that infection rates are increasing but with fewer hospitalisations I'm leaving it off unless someone asks me to put it on. I politely do so stating that it's their unnecessary fear that's obliging me, not mine.
I personally don't wear one as I think it's unconsciously leads to more unsafe driving.
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Agreed, I realised this a couple of months ago.palarsehater said:its an old saying in times of worry and crisis
people revert to type
kind and decent people become even more kind and decent
and the
selfish and cnutish become even more selfish and cnutish1 -
First time in public transport today since lockdown began.
SE trains from Westcombe Park to Cannon Street, 10 people on carriage one young girl and her mum not wearing masks. Was going to ask why but they left at London Bridge before I motivated myself enough to get into an argument.
on the tube must have seen 600-800 people, there no masks, four occasionally masks on mouth and not in nose, all getting daggers from everyone else.People generally left a seat between groups, train not that busy though.Wasn’t expecting this but all non mask wearers were BAME.1 -
I have also seen an increased of people who dont give a shit, i am medically exempt due to 'asthma' but if i can wear a mask i dont think many have a proper excuse. Yes my Asthma is not a mute point i use inhalers daily and have bad days still, something i am used to.
People who dont wear it when they are advised to eg. shops/garages, confined spaces are selfish pricks2 -
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I agree. Zero sympathy and why that other guy was protesting about the police action beggars belief. As mentioned further up the thread, I have been using Merseyrail twice a day for the last two weeks and the face mask compliance has been excellent. Of the few who aren’t there are certainly some who seem to be daring other passengers to confront them.SELR_addicks said:1 -
If you read the article, he was suspected of coughing in the faces of two people on the train (who had presumably asked him why he wasn't wearing a mask), so the police didn't just roll up and pick him out at random, they were looking for a suspect who had committed what is common assault.
p.s. how truly horrible is that website? IT was loading adverts, popups and messages for 2 minutes, and after all that the video controls scroll up over the Skip Ad button making it inaccessible4 -
Haven't seen a single white person not wearing a mask.Alwaysneil said:First time in public transport today since lockdown began.
SE trains from Westcombe Park to Cannon Street, 10 people on carriage one young girl and her mum not wearing masks. Was going to ask why but they left at London Bridge before I motivated myself enough to get into an argument.
on the tube must have seen 600-800 people, there no masks, four occasionally masks on mouth and not in nose, all getting daggers from everyone else.People generally left a seat between groups, train not that busy though.Wasn’t expecting this but all non mask wearers were BAME.2 -
Plenty of white chavy types not wearing masks around my neck of the woods. BTW that video looks like a compensation set up to me.3
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