So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?
Just been in Zante for the week (beautiful place) and while the wearing of masks became compulsory everywhere even on the beach it was very widely ignored. CL rating of 20%.
What was disturbing was in the cheap bars people were handshaking and hugging staff and each other. Classic spreading but this was older people like mid 40’s to mid 50’s in large groups and at 2pm as the booze bus started running.
So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?
Two people on my train this morning wearing masks that might as well not have bothered, one was wearing it on his chin and the only covering her mouth and not her nose
The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
1. I do not agree with them being obligatory rather than recommended. It should come down to personal choice.
2. I think they lead to an unconscious lessening of social distancing.
I was wearing one in shops in order to keep people off my back. Now that infection rates are increasing but with fewer hospitalisations I'm leaving it off unless someone asks me to put it on. I politely do so stating that it's their unnecessary fear that's obliging me, not mine.
Seatbelts don't come down to personal choice, do you refuse to wear one of those? I personally don't wear one as I think it's unconsciously leads to more unsafe driving.
I am sorry i have skipped a couple of pages to respond, but wtf? you dont wear a seatbelt as it leads to unsafe driving thats a new one. God forbid another wreckless driver doesn't smash into you! Sorry jacob quoted your post and not Jimmy @jimmymelrose
The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
Exactly my thought process with the whole thing. If it might help stop the spread then that's good enough for me, we all need to be doing our bit.
The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
In the long term, I really really don't think wearing masks is a good idea!
It could screw immunity amongst the population and potentially leave us vulnerable to very minor diseases.
So what I am reading and understanding it will only be safe to not wear a mask when Boris Johnson says so. If Boris says we do not have to wear a mask, then people are not selfish arrogant arseholes, but when he says we must people are selfish arseholes.
Without the amount of U-turns recently that could happen at anymore. If the public appeal is there it is clearly not. Hope everyone is looking forward to their national lockdown over xmas.
It wom't be safe when a politician says so, it will be because experts have informed afore mention politicians. As for u-turns, what do you want, politicians to do, never change their minds when more evidence or information comes to light? I often make a decision I have to change because someone has put forward an argument that I accept. But of course the media has to bang on about u-turns
You’re not a politician though. The point is, being in the position they’re in, they shouldn’t have got it wrong in the first place.
No one knew and the advice keeps changing;it is an unprecedented situation that is evolving
Leave off. Even if there was a 0.00001% chance masks help we should of been wearing them in March.
So the whole country has to wear a mask to prevent a grand total of 3 people catching this virus?
So if we had worn masks since March and perhaps prevented the death of one person it wouldnt of been worth it?
The thing is, we don't know exactly how effective masks are. It is a reason in itself to wear them as there is no data to suggest wearing them increases the risk of catching Covid. In the absence of risk and with the possibility of benefit, it should be a no brainer.
In the long term, I really really don't think wearing masks is a good idea!
It could screw immunity amongst the population and potentially leave us vulnerable to very minor diseases.
WHO recently said they envisage the pandemic lasting for about 2 years, which is a relatively short time so your argument does not carry any weight.
Hopefully this winter we will see fewer colds, coughs and other viruses, because most people are far more mindful of passing any germs they may have onto others.
1. I do not agree with them being obligatory rather than recommended. It should come down to personal choice.
2. I think they lead to an unconscious lessening of social distancing.
I was wearing one in shops in order to keep people off my back. Now that infection rates are increasing but with fewer hospitalisations I'm leaving it off unless someone asks me to put it on. I politely do so stating that it's their unnecessary fear that's obliging me, not mine.
Seatbelts don't come down to personal choice, do you refuse to wear one of those? I personally don't wear one as I think it's unconsciously leads to more unsafe driving.
I am sorry i have skipped a couple of pages to respond, but wtf? you dont wear a seatbelt as it leads to unsafe driving thats a new one. God forbid another wreckless driver doesn't smash into you! Sorry jacob quoted your post and not Jimmy @jimmymelrose
First time in public transport today since lockdown began.
SE trains from Westcombe Park to Cannon Street, 10 people on carriage one young girl and her mum not wearing masks. Was going to ask why but they left at London Bridge before I motivated myself enough to get into an argument.
on the tube must have seen 600-800 people, there no masks, four occasionally masks on mouth and not in nose, all getting daggers from everyone else.
People generally left a seat between groups, train not that busy though.
Wasn’t expecting this but all non mask wearers were BAME.
I have also seen an increased of people who dont give a shit, i am medically exempt due to 'asthma' but if i can wear a mask i dont think many have a proper excuse. Yes my Asthma is not a mute point i use inhalers daily and have bad days still, something i am used to.
People who dont wear it when they are advised to eg. shops/garages, confined spaces are selfish pricks
I agree. Zero sympathy and why that other guy was protesting about the police action beggars belief. As mentioned further up the thread, I have been using Merseyrail twice a day for the last two weeks and the face mask compliance has been excellent. Of the few who aren’t there are certainly some who seem to be daring other passengers to confront them.
If you read the article, he was suspected of coughing in the faces of two people on the train (who had presumably asked him why he wasn't wearing a mask), so the police didn't just roll up and pick him out at random, they were looking for a suspect who had committed what is common assault.
p.s. how truly horrible is that website? IT was loading adverts, popups and messages for 2 minutes, and after all that the video controls scroll up over the Skip Ad button making it inaccessible
First time in public transport today since lockdown began.
SE trains from Westcombe Park to Cannon Street, 10 people on carriage one young girl and her mum not wearing masks. Was going to ask why but they left at London Bridge before I motivated myself enough to get into an argument.
on the tube must have seen 600-800 people, there no masks, four occasionally masks on mouth and not in nose, all getting daggers from everyone else.
People generally left a seat between groups, train not that busy though.
Wasn’t expecting this but all non mask wearers were BAME.
Haven't seen a single white person not wearing a mask.
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Strawman argument.
It could screw immunity amongst the population and potentially leave us vulnerable to very minor diseases.
We will never know
Hopefully this winter we will see fewer colds, coughs and other viruses, because most people are far more mindful of passing any germs they may have onto others.
people revert to type
kind and decent people become even more kind and decent
and the
selfish and cnutish become even more selfish and cnutish
He was being sarcastic.
SE trains from Westcombe Park to Cannon Street, 10 people on carriage one young girl and her mum not wearing masks. Was going to ask why but they left at London Bridge before I motivated myself enough to get into an argument.
on the tube must have seen 600-800 people, there no masks, four occasionally masks on mouth and not in nose, all getting daggers from everyone else.
People who dont wear it when they are advised to eg. shops/garages, confined spaces are selfish pricks
My sympathy for him is 0.
p.s. how truly horrible is that website? IT was loading adverts, popups and messages for 2 minutes, and after all that the video controls scroll up over the Skip Ad button making it inaccessible
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