ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

ForeverAddickted

Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

The theme of this whole saga is that nothing ever changes. Yesterday there was an injunction. Tomorrow there's still an injunction. Always a lot of talk but never any action.
It's time something changed and the way I see it, only the EFL can bring that about. They must rule without further delay on Elliott's appeal.

Elliott will probably take them to court then!!

i_b_b_o_r_g

Would there have been any benefit to Panorama "throwing" this, in relation to helping the TS take-over?

Just asking 

WK6824Nine

Sandgaard needs to say something now.

randy andy

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

TS has just cancelled all tickets he has got for Atlantic crossings for the foreseeable future.

Why write this? What does it add? A load of pessimistic, shit-stirring nonsense.

TS has said today's hearing had no impact on his takeover. Either call him out as a liar and provide supporting evidence or say nothing.

Dazzler21

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Would there have been any benefit to Panorama "throwing" this, in relation to helping the TS take-over?

Just asking 

Don't think so.

Not sure who TS will have to pay now to obtain the club, they could lose the sale.

ValleyGary

KentishAddick said:

It's the fans fault that ESI2 got control of the club

Change of tune.

stoneroses19

RedJohn said:

The difference was having "Chaisty" in your corner, Lauren did well of course, but nothing counts more than having experience in these type of cases.

The difference was that LK wasn’t given any decent evidence from PM. Disagree that experience won the case for Chaisty. 

Redrobo

robinofottershaw said:

Clem_Snide said:

I do wonder whether the lack of engagement from PM is down to the fact that they believe the deal/loophole TS has found is sound and renders the whole process moot.

No point going off at the deep end, wait until the key player in this has his say.

As for the people saying LK is culpable, what a fucking joke. Even the judge acknowledged that she had been hung out to dry and that she did a good job in the circumstances. What is she supposed to do if she has radio silence from TN and MM? She can hardly phone the court and say she isn't coming.....

I am not competent to judge her performance either way. Presumably though, in preparing for today she must have counselled PM and their solicitors on the pros and cons of not being prepared to provide more details of a potential imminent sale, notwithstanding any NDAs.

What sale? If Rolly has repossessed CAFC Ltd EIS are not selling anything.

thickandthin63

We need national press coverage here,Elliott and his bunch of crooks may have got their noses in front,but the whole sporting world must be aware of these bastards and ensure they are totally and utterly disgraced,the likes of Farnell and Southall need outing in the most visible way possible.Come on Liddell,Samuels Holt,and others, a great opportunity here to rid sport of these parasites.

aliwibble

robinofottershaw said:

Clem_Snide said:

I do wonder whether the lack of engagement from PM is down to the fact that they believe the deal/loophole TS has found is sound and renders the whole process moot.

No point going off at the deep end, wait until the key player in this has his say.

As for the people saying LK is culpable, what a fucking joke. Even the judge acknowledged that she had been hung out to dry and that she did a good job in the circumstances. What is she supposed to do if she has radio silence from TN and MM? She can hardly phone the court and say she isn't coming.....

I am not competent to judge her performance either way. Presumably though, in preparing for today she must have counselled PM and their solicitors on the pros and cons of not being prepared to provide more details of a potential imminent sale, notwithstanding any NDAs.

Yes, but if they don't hand over the documents, she can't magic them up out of thin air.

golfaddick

killerandflash said:

Still slightly baffled how we can pay for the players Bowyer had lined up anyway, seeing that many were agreed before TS turned up. I'm really confused by the state of our finances at the moment, who has out in what and how long we can last for

We cant, hence we are fucked. Unless TS buys us by tomorrow all the players we have lined up will walk away. We will go into the next couple of games with the squad we have. The club will also have to accept deals for Doughty, Bonne & Phillips & if that is the case I can see LB walking away. 

FishCostaFortune

Yep, I think NLA might have got swept up in TS's positive outlook and energy, and probably didnt think of the wider context when he leaked that there was a done deal.

floydroadfaithfull

Ok so that was a bit of a let down but we have got the 7 new players coming in to cheer us up today?
Right

sillav nitram

Is Sandgaard in the Air at the moment or has he already landed in time for Saturdays game?

meldrew66

RedJohn said:

The difference was having "Chaisty" in your corner, Lauren did well of course, but nothing counts more than having experience in these type of cases.

No, I don't agree with that. If Chaisty had to represent PM with the lack of evidence provided, he and any other top lawyer would have lost, hands down.

CAFCTrev

Who is covering the wages for next two months?

hoof_it_up_to_benty

I'm still NITK.

Laddick01

I’m convinced the phrase Done Deal is some kind of trap at this point

CL_Phantom

PragueAddick said:

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

ISawLeaburnScore said:

The Panorama evidence has been an absolute shambles from start to finish. Anyone who thinks Marian Mihail is not towards the top of the current league table of CAFC culpability is crackers.

I've been saying this for weeks and shot down for it because he's nice on twitter.

Well then you must have landed on my dead body when you fell. 

He's a junior lawyer in Romanian terms. and his main legal experience was as legal manager for the Romanian 4th division, which is amateur teams around the capital city. He's got a "diploma" in English law from some outfit providing distance learning in Eastern Europe. I bet my two years law as part of my biz studies degree i stronger than that. But best of all he came to Charlton as a package with Romania's most high profile economic villain. 

And with a couple of exceptions (carly and Covered End) I got pelters every time I pointed it out.

But don't worry, he'll probably end up as collateral damage when the crook he grassed up comes for Florica.

I dont recall reading that before, fabulous stuff.....

charlton_hero

ValleyGary said:

KentishAddick said:

It's the fans fault that ESI2 got control of the club

Change of tune.

Agreed, doesn't look good.

ElliotCAFC

KentishAddick said:

It's the fans fault that ESI2 got control of the club

Literal nonsense. Completely discredits everything else he's said by making such a stupid comment.

hoof_it_up_to_benty

Laddick01 said:

I’m convinced the phrase Done Deal is some kind of trap at this point

Not sure what 'Done Deal' means when it comes to Charlton.

Cafc43v3r

killerandflash said:

Still slightly baffled how we can pay for the players Bowyer had lined up anyway, seeing that many were agreed before TS turned up. I'm really confused by the state of our finances at the moment, who has out in what and how long we can last for

And why sign 2 players, alleged to be on more than the salary cap, if your weeks away from going bust. 

golfaddick

floydroadfaithfull said:

Ok so that was a bit of a let down but we have got the 7 new players coming in to cheer us up today?
Right

That was yesterday.....do keep up.

Those that say they are ITK are clearly not. Never trust anyone ever again. 

killerandflash

golfaddick said:

killerandflash said:

Still slightly baffled how we can pay for the players Bowyer had lined up anyway, seeing that many were agreed before TS turned up. I'm really confused by the state of our finances at the moment, who has out in what and how long we can last for

We cant, hence we are fucked. Unless TS buys us by tomorrow all the players we have lined up will walk away. We will go into the next couple of games with the squad we have. The club will also have to accept deals for Doughty, Bonne & Phillips & if that is the case I can see LB walking away. 

Having a weak defence is a minor convenience in the bigger picture though. And we had players lined up BEFORE TS turned up, which implies that under ESI 1/2 we had some finances in place to muddle through. But from where?

MattF

KentishAddick said:

It's the fans fault that ESI2 got control of the club

Scoham

CAFCsayer

flyingkiwiDK said:

Todds_right_hook said:

is tommy worried yet?

Not in the slightest 

On the back of your comment tonight I'm going to say I reckon we could hear something tonight

floydroadfaithfull

I'm still confused 😕 
Does this mean the embargo stays in place untill Nov hearing??

FishCostaFortune

Scoham said:

You wot mate.