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Marcus Maddison - 20 months jail for GBH (p77)
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Davison was pretty poor .. fell
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I think we should use Bolton as an inspiration for the rest of our season. If we can go on a similar run of form we'd surely make the playoffs and go into them as the form teamAddick Addict said:Bolton have had 20 new players in this season. They took 25 points from their first 23 matches but, assuming, that they hold on today they will have picked up 38 points from their last 14 games. They would also be just two points off automatic promotion.
Credit to Bolton. Evatt came to them having earned a good reputation with Barrow but it would have been easy for them to sack him after that start.1 -
If you'd had the same job since you were a teenager, you'd probably burn out. I get that it's football, and it's a dream job for a lot of us, but these lads are only human, and I'm surprised we don't see more players that just lose interest at this stage in their careers. Especially when you realise you're never going to play above League One.Dazzler21 said:Sounding almost gleeful at his demise is odd, I'm disappointed that we never got to see the extent of his ability for us. Was it the AFC Wombles game where he worked hard and created shooting or assisting opportunities for others? (Next game he was almost invisible at times vs Swindon)
I have said it before, but it angers me how someone can just throw away such natural skill and a career for which they would have worked bloody hard for.
I know people don't believe it, but it isn't easy to get into a Football League side and remain there for years, scoring your own goals and assisting as many or more for others.
It takes a lot of hard graft.
Something snapped here and made Marcus throw in the towel. Personally I think it must have been his clash with Ferguson. A real shame as had we signed him in play off promotion season, I'd bet we'd be seeing a different man right now.
I hope we can both move on to something better for us.2 -
That might be a fair point actually.Croydon said:
If you'd had the same job since you were a teenager, you'd probably burn out. I get that it's football, and it's a dream job for a lot of us, but these lads are only human, and I'm surprised we don't see more players that just lose interest at this stage in their careers. Especially when you realise you're never going to play above League One.Dazzler21 said:Sounding almost gleeful at his demise is odd, I'm disappointed that we never got to see the extent of his ability for us. Was it the AFC Wombles game where he worked hard and created shooting or assisting opportunities for others? (Next game he was almost invisible at times vs Swindon)
I have said it before, but it angers me how someone can just throw away such natural skill and a career for which they would have worked bloody hard for.
I know people don't believe it, but it isn't easy to get into a Football League side and remain there for years, scoring your own goals and assisting as many or more for others.
It takes a lot of hard graft.
Something snapped here and made Marcus throw in the towel. Personally I think it must have been his clash with Ferguson. A real shame as had we signed him in play off promotion season, I'd bet we'd be seeing a different man right now.
I hope we can both move on to something better for us.2 -
Especially when you have had the talent at your disposal that MM obviously has. Even he must now realise that if he got his head down years ago he would have gone alot further than he did. That isnt a criticism just a comment on the waste of talent. Which is why I admire the likes of Foden, Mount etc who knuckle down and strive to succeed. It must be very tempting to have that much money at their age to just lose your head3
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I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, seeing that Foden and Mount are youngsters really, when everything's exciting and newAndyG said:Especially when you have had the talent at your disposal that MM obviously has. Even he must now realise that if he got his head down years ago he would have gone alot further than he did. That isnt a criticism just a comment on the waste of talent. Which is why I admire the likes of Foden, Mount etc who knuckle down and strive to succeed. It must be very tempting to have that much money at their age to just lose your head
And Maddison had 5 excellent years at Posh before it seemed to go wrong0 -
Yes but when I was their age if I had their £ I would have found other exciting things to do aside from football which is probably what MM didkillerandflash said:
I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, seeing that Foden and Mount are youngsters really, when everything's exciting and newAndyG said:Especially when you have had the talent at your disposal that MM obviously has. Even he must now realise that if he got his head down years ago he would have gone alot further than he did. That isnt a criticism just a comment on the waste of talent. Which is why I admire the likes of Foden, Mount etc who knuckle down and strive to succeed. It must be very tempting to have that much money at their age to just lose your head
And Maddison had 5 excellent years at Posh before it seemed to go wrong2 -
Some people are happy with their lot & don't always want to bust a gut" or "go the extra mile". I'd wager that whatever salary he has been on over the past 10 years its been a darn sight more than the average wage & probably more than most people on here earn. I dont expect Peterborough to be paying big wages but even £3k a week is £150k pa.AndyG said:Especially when you have had the talent at your disposal that MM obviously has. Even he must now realise that if he got his head down years ago he would have gone alot further than he did. That isnt a criticism just a comment on the waste of talent. Which is why I admire the likes of Foden, Mount etc who knuckle down and strive to succeed. It must be very tempting to have that much money at their age to just lose your head4 -
Response from Maddison to a Bolton fan who was slagging him off for gaming when he thought he should have been training/preparing for a match (it was something like 20:30 in the evening). Don't think he always helps himself with his social media stuff but people do have to realise that footballers aren't robots.
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Fair play to him for saying what he said.3
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One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.
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Can Adkins work his man management skills on Marcus or has that ship long sailed?7
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ShootersHillGuru said:Can Adkins work his man management skills on Marcus or has that ship long sailed?Read a few people saying this - he’s out of contract at the end of the season isn’t he? When would Nigel have a chance to do this as i really can’t see him getting another year.1
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No chance, the lad is heading for an early retirement unfortunately. Such a waste of talent but you need more than raw ability to make it these days.ShootersHillGuru said:Can Adkins work his man management skills on Marcus or has that ship long sailed?
Hopefully he’s happier playing football lower down with his mates while pursuing his own interests like opening a tattoo shop.10 -
Not sure that Adkins' brand of therapy/management would help Maddison much at the moment.
Adkins seems to favour an approach that is about looking at what you can do to improve your situation, Maddison seems to be stuck in the mindset that he can't/won't do anything so why bother.
Theoretically it's possible but testimony on Adkins is that he doesn't have time for people who think they are bigger/better than the team, which probably means he's not got much interest in working with MM.3 -
That ships next to the Titanic..ShootersHillGuru said:Can Adkins work his man management skills on Marcus or has that ship long sailed?10 -
Sad top hear about his plight but the words come across as a 14 year old. Self or Seek help would be what I'd advise.0
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Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation0
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I'd choose SE London over Bolton any day of the week.lancashire lad said:Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation
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I think Maddison is more like one of those new Woolwich ferries which keep breaking down...king addick said:
That ships next to the Titanic..ShootersHillGuru said:Can Adkins work his man management skills on Marcus or has that ship long sailed?1 -
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Maddison wasn't married.addick1956 said:
Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work. There is a work of difference.lancashire lad said:Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation1 -
Bit easier for Maddison to see his child than for Schwartz though, plus how is it not for work? Maddison left the city of Peterborough, first for London and then for Bolton because of work, no different to what Schwartz has done. Whether it's because of work or not, doesn't make it any easier anyway.addick1956 said:
Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work. There is a work of difference.lancashire lad said:Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation1 -
The different country makes a huge difference in this though. Maddison has seen his ex and kid. Schwartz can’t until his family can come here to live with him. Not many people are permanently apart from family for work over a period of 3+ months.addick1956 said:
Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work. There is a work of difference.lancashire lad said:Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation3 -
Absolutely, it's all about atitude.Dazzler21 said:One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.0 -
ElfsborgAddick said:
Absolutely, it's all about altitude.Dazzler21 said:One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.
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Because Maddison keeps showing he has access on Instaaddick1956 said:
How do you know access is granted plus what a final separation does to an individual ?stoneroses19 said:
The different country makes a huge difference in this though. Maddison has seen his ex and kid. Schwartz can’t until his family can come here to live with him. Not many people are permanently apart from family for work over a period of 3+ months.addick1956 said:
Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work. There is a work of difference.lancashire lad said:Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation
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Pet hate.oohaahmortimer said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Absolutely, it's all about altitude.Dazzler21 said:One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.
People tampering with posts.
I hope you don't get any Easter eggs, you naughty boy.1 -
ElfsborgAddick said:
Pet haoohaahmortimer said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Absolutely, it's all about altitude.Dazzler21 said:One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.
Pe tampering posts.
I you don't get Easter , you boy.
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May your next poo be a hedgehog Dicky.ricky_otto said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Pet haoohaahmortimer said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Absolutely, it's all about altitude.Dazzler21 said:One might tell him to train like he wants to play, then to play like he wants to win. What he does outside of that is entirely his choice.
Pe tampering posts.
I you don't get Easter , you boy.0 -
Came off the bench for the last half hour today as Bolton drew 0-0 against Colchester1
