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Marcus Maddison - 20 months jail for GBH (p77)

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    addick1956 said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    addick1956 said:
    lancashire lad said:
    Schwartz is in an even worse domestic situation
     Maddison has split up from his wife and child...Schwartz is just apart because of work.  There is a work of difference. 
    Bit easier for Maddison to see his child than for Schwartz though, plus how is it not for work? Maddison left the city of Peterborough, first for London and then for Bolton because of work, no different to what Schwartz has done. Whether it's because of work or not, doesn't make it any easier anyway. 
     What tosh...Schwarz is not separated from his wife permanently. 

    Maddison is. Plus most Saturdays he isn't available,  the usual day for access.  Have you been in that position,  where everyone decides when you have access except you. If you had you wouldn't be so callous with your remarks.
    What difference does it make if it’s permanent or not? How am I being calious? I don’t have children but I have sympathy for both Maddison and Schwartz for having to spend time away from their families. I think you’ve proven yourself to be a bit thick at times but I was simply stating facts, I’ve defended Maddison on multiple occasions 
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 973
    I worry for the lad. Hope the PFA have something in place for this type of thing.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited April 2021
    Cloudworm said:
    I worry for the lad. Hope the PFA have something in place for this type of thing.
    I believe that the PFA support the Sporting Chance Clinic which was founded by Tony Adams and provides help to sportspeople.  Our very own Paul Mortimer is also involved with them.  https://www.sportingchanceclinic.com/team

    Edited to add: Yes, according to the last annual report for the clinic the PFA provides around £400k funding per year. The FA and the Rugby Football League around another £100k each. (I was surprised that the Premier League didn't get a mention.)

  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,186
    killerandflash said:
    Came off the bench for the last half hour today as Bolton drew 0-0 against Colchester
    Top player then 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,033
    Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?
    Mental health related I'd suggest
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,033
    Dazzler21 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?
    Mental health related I'd suggest

    How have people come to that conclusion?  What has happened?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?
    Mental health related I'd suggest

    How have people come to that conclusion?  What has happened?
    It’s the instant go-to for whenever anybody is not putting in the effort in this day and age it seems.

    Not to say that he is having a great time of life, but nothing specifically has come out to say that he has a mental health problem. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,033
    cafctom said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Serious question here, what is the problem with Maddison then?
    Mental health related I'd suggest

    How have people come to that conclusion?  What has happened?
    It’s the instant go-to for whenever anybody is not putting in the effort in this day and age it seems.

    Not to say that he is having a great time of life, but nothing specifically has come out to say that he has a mental health problem. 
    He comes across as lazy and with an ego problem.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition that seemingly could be Marcus' issue.

    Often wrongly called an ego problem and often not a big issue. In Marcus' case it seems like it's affecting his career and personal life massively. 
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  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
  • Addickhead86
    Addickhead86 Posts: 1,148
    Diagnoses aside, where are people getting the idea that MM has consistently acted flashy or arrogant or like he's better than playing for us? To me he seems like he's severely lacking in confidence and self-belief in his football, to the point where he'd rather withdraw.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
    It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

    It's called life.
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 635
    Addickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
    It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

    It's called life.
    Called supporting Charlton, well the struggling bit
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,033
    addick1956 said:
    Addickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
    It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

    It's called life.
     You are so sympathetic....
    @Addickted is very well placed to make his comment.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Addickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
    It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

    It's called life.
    No.

    Narcissism in and of itself can be a personality trait, however narcissistic personality disorder is a recognised mental health condition.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Dazzler21 said:
    Addickted said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    That’s what we used to call a flash prick weren’t it?
    No it's a genuine mental health disorder.
    It's a personality trait. We all have them. We all deal with similar situations on a daily basis. Sometimes we struggle, sometimes we laugh.

    It's called life.
    No.

    Narcissism in and of itself can be a personality trait, however narcissistic personality disorder is a recognised mental health condition.

    It is. Over the years I’ve encountered a few individuals with the diagnosis.

    https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-narcissistic-personality-disorder-2795446
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    My information is that senior players were talking the piss out of MM for a variety of things. Apparently he was ok with it at the start, but it developed quite quickly from a bit of fun to much more. Bowyers attitude at the time  was that he should be able to take it and get on with it. Seems that regardless of how he looks, he’s quite a sensitive little man. Source is solid.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    edited April 2021
    masicat said:
    My information is that senior players were talking the piss out of MM for a variety of things. Apparently he was ok with it at the start, but it developed quite quickly from a bit of fun to much more. Bowyers attitude at the time  was that he should be able to take it and get on with it. Seems that regardless of how he looks, he’s quite a sensitive little man. Source is solid.
    It's only banter if both sides are in on it, if not it's bullying. 
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    shine166 said:
    masicat said:
    My information is that senior players were talking the piss out of MM for a variety of things. Apparently he was ok with it at the start, but it developed quite quickly from a bit of fun to much more. Bowyers attitude at the time  was that he should be able to take it and get on with it. Seems that regardless of how he looks, he’s quite a sensitive little man. Source is solid.
    It's only banter if both sides are in on it, if bit it's bullying. 
    Banter can be insulting but is not necessarily bullying. 
    It is when the ‘banter’ is applied specifically to one individual or group that it would move to bullying.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Started today for a change. Was substituted at half time with Bolton losing 1-0. Bolton went on to win 2-1.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    Can see him being out of the game after this season
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Can see him being out of the game after this season
    What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Just adding to the evidence we should release him and leave other teams to consider giving him another chance.

    I think his time at Posh will prove to be his peak and he won't get back to that level.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    ricky_otto said:
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Can see him being out of the game after this season
    What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 
    I agree. 

    I don’t want to speculate on what might have gone on but its starting to look like he’ll have to start again at another club in league 2. It would be tough for anyone to find the motivation to keep going given he hasn’t done anything of note in half a season there. Especially as he clearly thinks he’s good enough to play 2 leagues above.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Leeds_Addick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Can see him being out of the game after this season
    What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 
    I agree. 

    I don’t want to speculate on what might have gone on but its starting to look like he’ll have to start again at another club in league 2. It would be tough for anyone to find the motivation to keep going given he hasn’t done anything of note in half a season there. Especially as he clearly thinks he’s good enough to play 2 leagues above.
    The trouble is you can't keep on stealing a living because eventually you will run out of clubs to rob. I questioned why no club had come in for him in the summer especially as he had pleaded on twitter that all he wanted to do was to play football. At his last three clubs he has achieved next to nothing and It looks like the nearest thing to playing football again will be with his mates over the park.
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    Addick Addict said:
    Leeds_Addick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Can see him being out of the game after this season
    What a waste that would be. But looks like that’s the route his career is going. 
    I agree. 

    I don’t want to speculate on what might have gone on but its starting to look like he’ll have to start again at another club in league 2. It would be tough for anyone to find the motivation to keep going given he hasn’t done anything of note in half a season there. Especially as he clearly thinks he’s good enough to play 2 leagues above.
    The trouble is you can't keep on stealing a living because eventually you will run out of clubs to rob. I questioned why no club had come in for him in the summer especially as he had pleaded on twitter that all he wanted to do was to play football. At his last three clubs he has achieved next to nothing and It looks like the nearest thing to playing football again will be with his mates over the park.
    I can see him dropping into non league, possibly a return to gateshead or something. Football is clearly not his no 1 passion but something when he's concentrated on, is very good.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Must have been applying himself well in training to get the opportunity to start, maybe he needs a run of games to try get back to his best.

    Not sure he has that motivation or desire in him to keep pushing though. 

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