It turns out I was initially listening to Damian Collins speaking in the debate on 9 November on 'Football Spectator Attendance: Covid-19'.
I subsequently tuned into the debate on 'The Future of Football Governance' and listened to most of that. I found myself in agreement with everything said by Clive Efford and Damian Collins, both of whom are extremely knowledgable and experienced in this area. Hopefully they will help push forward the idea of an independent regulator, given the inability of most football club owners to see beyond their own self-interest. I thought that Alison McGovern, the Shadow Minister for Sport, also spoke very well and, as you say, there is encouraging cross-party agreement on the need for change.
Clive Efford (who has the benefit of Parliamentary Privilege) certainly didn't pull any punches on the need to protect football clubs from certain types of individuals.
Parliamentary Priviliage doesn't apply to Westminster Hall?
I believe that it does apply to Committee debates, such as this one, as they are part of the core and essential business of Parliament. It enables MPs to speak their mind in debates and to represent their constituents’ views without fear or favour.
The provisions on reporting or commenting upon parliamentary proceedings are more nuanced.
Two things: London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months. How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?
What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?
Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules
It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest. For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.
How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.
Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death. By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right. Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they? The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it? Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions. Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.
I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want.
Nobody has died from COVID?
How on earth have you got that from my post.
"I will not die from this".
Again, where did I say nobody has died from COVID?
I questioned your ridiculous comment that you will "not die from this". I did not say you had said nobody has died. It is nice to know that you will not be dying from COVID.
Again, I will not die from Covid. Not sure why this clearly rattles you so much, stop bet wetting and let others get on with their life. Enjoy sheltering at home.
When masks became compulsory a chap in his 40’s came into the supermarket without one. When approached by a staff member he let rip with his views that this was all nonsense etc.
I found out Tuesday that his funeral is today. Died from COVID.
So looks like we will be allowed 2,000 fans. Will fans from Kent be allowed to attend?
Well going by the rules of no travelling in or out unless unavoidable I would guess not.
wonder how the club will police that one? Gonna be an added pain for the going through the logistics of where people are coming in from
I don’t think it will be as logistically difficult as long as clear rules are in place.
The 2,000 tickets will likely be allocated to season ticket holders with registered addresses in London and then run with similar procedures as were in place for the Doncaster game in September.
So looks like we will be allowed 2,000 fans. Will fans from Kent be allowed to attend?
Well going by the rules of no travelling in or out unless unavoidable I would guess not.
wonder how the club will police that one? Gonna be an added pain for the going through the logistics of where people are coming in from
I don’t think it will be as logistically difficult as long as clear rules are in place.
The 2,000 tickets will likely be allocated to season ticket holders with registered addresses in London and then run with similar procedures as were in place for the Doncaster game in September.
So looks like we will be allowed 2,000 fans. Will fans from Kent be allowed to attend?
Well going by the rules of no travelling in or out unless unavoidable I would guess not.
wonder how the club will police that one? Gonna be an added pain for the going through the logistics of where people are coming in from
I don’t think it will be as logistically difficult as long as clear rules are in place.
The 2,000 tickets will likely be allocated to season ticket holders with registered addresses in London and then run with similar procedures as were in place for the Doncaster game in September.
I reckon it should be allotted according to proximity to the ground
To be clear though, I shouldn't be in the 2000 closest! There are a lot more than 2000 households closer than I am. Alas though, they're probably not all fans
So just to clear this up, if you're a fan of a London team (tier 2) but live in Kent (tier 3) you won't be allowed to go to a game. But if you're a fan of a London team, who lives in Kent (like Bexleyheath/Sidcup/Welling), which are actually listed as part of a London borough then you will be.
So just to clear this up, if you're a fan of a London team (tier 2) but live in Kent (tier 3) you won't be allowed to go to a game. But if you're a fan of a London team, who lives in Kent (like Bexleyheath/Sidcup/Welling), which are actually listed as part of a London borough then you will be.
Glad we got that sorted.
Tier three (very high)
Additional restrictions apply:
You can't mix with other households indoors, or in private gardens and pub gardens
You can meet in a group of up to six in other outdoor spaces, such as parks, beaches or countryside
Hospitality venues - such as bars, pubs, cafes and restaurants must close, except for delivery and takeaway services
Spectator sports cannot resume
Indoor entertain venues - such as bowling alleys and cinemas - must close
People are advised not to travel to and from tier three areas
So just to clear this up, if you're a fan of a London team (tier 2) but live in Kent (tier 3) you won't be allowed to go to a game. But if you're a fan of a London team, who lives in Kent (like Bexleyheath/Sidcup/Welling), which are actually listed as part of a London borough then you will be.
With all tickets being allocated to existing ST holders or ID holders, all of which will be registered with their address, it's actually quite easy to see who can and can't come
With all tickets being allocated to existing ST holders or ID holders, all of which will be registered with their address, it's actually quite easy to see who can and can't come
Guess what they could do is a send a email out to all those not in a Tier 3 location with a unique code thats needed when purchasing the tickets - That would surely be straightforward given what they'll already have in place on the website
You just hope people in T3 wont be asking their family / mates in a T2 area to buy them a ticket on their behalf
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I subsequently tuned into the debate on 'The Future of Football Governance' and listened to most of that. I found myself in agreement with everything said by Clive Efford and Damian Collins, both of whom are extremely knowledgable and experienced in this area. Hopefully they will help push forward the idea of an independent regulator, given the inability of most football club owners to see beyond their own self-interest. I thought that Alison McGovern, the Shadow Minister for Sport, also spoke very well and, as you say, there is encouraging cross-party agreement on the need for change.
Clive Efford (who has the benefit of Parliamentary Privilege) certainly didn't pull any punches on the need to protect football clubs from certain types of individuals.
The provisions on reporting or commenting upon parliamentary proceedings are more nuanced.
I found out Tuesday that his funeral is today. Died from COVID.
😂
Potentially 2000 fans at The Valley from the next game
wonder how the club will police that one? Gonna be an added pain for the going through the logistics of where people are coming in from
The 2,000 tickets will likely be allocated to season ticket holders with registered addresses in London and then run with similar procedures as were in place for the Doncaster game in September.
We have fans outside of London and Kent.
Joke joke joke
All 32 London boroughs are in tier 2.
Glad we got that sorted.
Tier three (very high)
Additional restrictions apply:
You just hope people in T3 wont be asking their family / mates in a T2 area to buy them a ticket on their behalf