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How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?
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I kind of like it because it’s more accurate.Manic_mania said:
Is that what people used to call "herd immunity"? is that the new language now? when and why did that change?ShootersHillGuru said:
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.shine166 said:Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
I kinda like it though because it is more poetic0 -
Unfortunately you're either getting every jab, or David Ike.Redskin said:
Maybe you're not someone that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy and that you're invulnerable; maybe you're someone who thinks why would I take a 'vaccine' whose scientists were blasé when it came to clinical trialling, was never tested to establish whether it prevented transmission and was proven not to as well as failing to prevent contagion whose scant protection began to fail after a matter of two months, and the claim which stated it had saved 'millions' of lives was not based on any data or stats, but the wishful thinking of spurious 'modelling'.ShootersHillGuru said:
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.shine166 said:Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%.
But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...3 -
Ffs. On and on it goes.Redskin said:
Maybe you're not someone that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy and that you're invulnerable; maybe you're someone who thinks why would I take a 'vaccine' whose scientists were blasé when it came to clinical trialling, was never tested to establish whether it prevented transmission and was proven not to as well as failing to prevent contagion whose scant protection began to fail after a matter of two months, and the claim which stated it had saved 'millions' of lives was not based on any data or stats, but the wishful thinking of spurious 'modelling'.ShootersHillGuru said:
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.shine166 said:Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%.
But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...13 -
I had my jab last Wednesday.
Any one who is not allergic and healthy enough to have one should get it.
It is great protection for you and does reduce your ability to spread covid, even if only by shortening the length of time you are ill with it.6 -
This is a shame. From my memory you have presented the view of someone who is largely anti-vaccine but in a sensible and measured way.Redskin said:
Maybe you're not someone that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy and that you're invulnerable; maybe you're someone who thinks why would I take a 'vaccine' whose scientists were blasé when it came to clinical trialling, was never tested to establish whether it prevented transmission and was proven not to as well as failing to prevent contagion whose scant protection began to fail after a matter of two months, and the claim which stated it had saved 'millions' of lives was not based on any data or stats, but the wishful thinking of spurious 'modelling'.ShootersHillGuru said:
The efficacy starts to diminish after three months but it’s a steady slow decline. We’ve all been exposed to Covid now and there is a good community immunity. The booster is added protection for those of us getting on in years and those in need of extra protection for many reasons. Unless you’re one of those that thinks that Covid and vaccines are part of some worldwide conspiracy or think they’re invulnerable then if offered I’d take it every time.shine166 said:Are The new jabs longer lasting ? At one point they were said to only be efficient for 3 months or so.
Maybe you realise that being under 70, with no underlying health problems or serious comorbidities and in reasonable health that should you catch Covid your chances of surviving this 'deadly' virus would be 99.8%.
But go on, push the leaky boat out and have another booster. Stay 'safe'...You generally avoided the rhetoric of the more extreme end of the anti-vaccine spectrum(and I hope I offer the same approach from a pro-vaccine mindset) and gave your view why you didn’t feel it was right for you and your family to be vaccinated.I respect that approach but this response presents all that I find irritating in these discussions. Referencing conspiracies, as well as vague and unattributed statistics is not useful to anyone and I generally thought you were a better and wiser person than that.7 -
This article was published in the USA but is written by Jennifer Beam Dowd whose credentials I have also provided a link. She argues for wider vaccination against Covid 19.
https://www.statnews.com/2023/10/13/updated-covid-vaccine-for-everyone/?fbclid=IwAR1ZyIuY3jKKBOL3AcUaonNJ6To2-HiU_TBMNYN9AZgbyjHQRWS8E_CMWbg
https://www.nuffield.ox.ac.uk/people/profiles/jennifer-beam-dowd/
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It's a shame that is so much money in disinformation that scientists will ruin their integrity. As a child I thought by the 2020s we may be living on the moon rather than have people believe that the world is flat.
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It’s a mad mad world. I think our ability in science and technology is outstripping our (as a species) ability to come to terms with what’s achievable. We’re still slaughtering each other all over the world every day. Coveting each others land and resources and a large part of the people don’t believe anything without seeing conspiracies in it, denying the science. We’re too stupid to realise that unless we curtail our energy use we’ll mostly all be dead in two hundred years anyway.Friend Or Defoe said:It's a shame that is so much money in disinformation that scientists will ruin their integrity. As a child I thought by the 2020s we may be living on the moon rather than have people believe that the world is flat.2 -
It's weird, I googled her and there's absolutely nothing I could find implying that she's a fucking lunatic. Really odd that it's the anti-vaccination anti-taking Covid seriously scientists who turn out to be money hungry loons and not the ones who argue for community protection and taking precautions. I feel shocked.ME14addick said:This article was published in the USA but is written by Jennifer Beam Dowd whose credentials I have also provided a link. She argues for wider vaccination against Covid 19.
https://www.statnews.com/2023/10/13/updated-covid-vaccine-for-everyone/?fbclid=IwAR1ZyIuY3jKKBOL3AcUaonNJ6To2-HiU_TBMNYN9AZgbyjHQRWS8E_CMWbg
https://www.nuffield.ox.ac.uk/people/profiles/jennifer-beam-dowd/
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I ran parkrun in a much slower than usual time this morning. I’m going to blame my flu and Covid jabs I had on Thursday. My fault really. I forgot my glasses and when I filled out the form I am sure I requested cheetah dna but thinking back I may have ticked the snail box. Still, you live and learn.4
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Had my jab yesterday. No reaction. Seemed a no brainer really.3
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Have you been kicked in the head by a horse?PeanutsMolloy said:6 -
I always find "watch watch watch 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇" to be the most reassuring introduction to serious scientific information. Very rarely is it used by utter fucking idiots.PeanutsMolloy said:10 -
What a pile of old nonsense. They may be in the Parliament Building, but it's not the EU Parliament that's discussing this. It's a Dutch far right political party that goes under the misnomer Forum For Democracy International. Not that you'd guess that from their website which conveniently it doesn't contain an 'about us' section. It does though have the obligatory donations page to separate thick people from their money.PeanutsMolloy said:
At one point in that video they actually talk about how the vaccines are undemocratic because there's too much information in the paperwork which is apparently Ursula von der Leyen's fault. It's hard to know how they make this stuff up. But they do and people fall for it.
Only you know what sort of websites you have to trawl to find such junk, but there was a clue in the bio of the 'watch watch watch' guy that first posted it.
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Shame Peanuts won’t engage, but just posts and runs for cover. It’s the fingers in the ears singing ‘La la la’ technique.@Stig ’s post should have set Peanuts’ mind at rest, but pretty sure he’ll never read it. Some people would rather believe conspiracy theories than have them disproved, because believing them makes them feel like they’re in an exclusive club.3
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I've lost a good friend to conspiracy theories. The free thinkers aren't too good when it comes to asking them some basic questions and just post links to other people's rambles. The default position is to just be against anything the government says because they were wrong about some unrelated event decades before. There's something attractive to them to be in the know to something regular people don't know.JamesSeed said:Shame Peanuts won’t engage, but just posts and runs for cover. It’s the fingers in the ears singing ‘La la la’ technique.@Stig ’s post should have set Peanuts’ mind at rest, but pretty sure he’ll never read it. Some people would rather believe conspiracy theories than have them disproved, because believing them makes them feel like they’re in an exclusive club.
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The internet was invented for them. I've worked with a few of these flat earther type over the years and to a point they are enjoyable conversation.Friend Or Defoe said:
I've lost a good friend to conspiracy theories. The free thinkers aren't too good when it comes to asking them some basic questions and just post links to other people's rambles. The default position is to just be against anything the government says because they were wrong about some unrelated event decades before. There's something attractive to them to be in the know to something regular people don't know.JamesSeed said:Shame Peanuts won’t engage, but just posts and runs for cover. It’s the fingers in the ears singing ‘La la la’ technique.@Stig ’s post should have set Peanuts’ mind at rest, but pretty sure he’ll never read it. Some people would rather believe conspiracy theories than have them disproved, because believing them makes them feel like they’re in an exclusive club.
Most of us have a level of intelligence where we are able to read complex subjects but lack the intelligence to actually understand what we have read, no shame there not many of us make it to NASA scientist level. The conspiracy theorist, on the other hand, understand everything.3 -
The internet was a step too far for some people.charltonkeston said:
The internet was invented for them. I've worked with a few of these flat earther type over the years and to a point they are enjoyable conversation.Friend Or Defoe said:
I've lost a good friend to conspiracy theories. The free thinkers aren't too good when it comes to asking them some basic questions and just post links to other people's rambles. The default position is to just be against anything the government says because they were wrong about some unrelated event decades before. There's something attractive to them to be in the know to something regular people don't know.JamesSeed said:Shame Peanuts won’t engage, but just posts and runs for cover. It’s the fingers in the ears singing ‘La la la’ technique.@Stig ’s post should have set Peanuts’ mind at rest, but pretty sure he’ll never read it. Some people would rather believe conspiracy theories than have them disproved, because believing them makes them feel like they’re in an exclusive club.
Most of us have a level of intelligence where we are able to read complex subjects but lack the intelligence to actually understand what we have read, no shame there not many of us make it to NASA scientist level. The conspiracy theorist, on the other hand, understand everything.0 -
Cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra sums it up for me.
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Aaron Mcconnell sums it up for me.9
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It is thanks to the courage of Matt LeTissier and many others that that the awful truth is slowly emerging.15
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It's sad that people believe such rubbish. They would be better off researching reputable sources They might then realise that the virus itself poses far more of a threat than a vaccine designed to lessen the effects of that virus.11
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Matt LeTissier was one of the finest individuals at thinking with his feet that have ever come from these islands. It's a shame he's still using them in a context where thinking with his brain would be more effective.6
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It’s weird because I don’t actually remember Le Tissier heading the ball that much, but the results are there for all to see.16
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having yet another jab, fourth or fifth (lost count) tomorrow .. been Covid free so far, touch wood6
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And like the overwhelmingly vast majority vaccine injury free too I hope?Lincsaddick said:having yet another jab, fourth or fifth (lost count) tomorrow .. been Covid free so far, touch wood4 -
exactlySuper_Eddie_Youds said:
And like the overwhelmingly vast majority vaccine injury free too I hope?Lincsaddick said:having yet another jab, fourth or fifth (lost count) tomorrow .. been Covid free so far, touch wood3 -
Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.1
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