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How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?
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I didn't even know there was oneCharltonKerry said:Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.0 -
I’m always mystified as to what the government hoped to achieve by fooling us into taking the vaccine. What do these people think the ultimate objective of the government was?PeanutsMolloy said:7 -
I believe it’s for over 70’s (might be ‘65) only, I never heard of it either that why I thought I ask. Apparently it’s a one off injection the nhs offers for the over 65’s.blackpool72 said:
I didn't even know there was oneCharltonKerry said:Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.
This is on the nhs websiteThe pneumococcal vaccine helps protect against some types of bacterial infections that can cause serious illnesses like:- meningitis (an infection in the brain and spinal cord)
- sepsis (a life-threatening reaction to an infection)
- pneumonia (an infection in the lungs)
It can also help protect against other illnesses such as sinusitis and ear infections.
I was told about it when I went for my flu / Covid jabs, unfortunately the surgery had ran out injections.
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The conspiracy is to reduce the population (they could just poison our water, hang on a minute...), mind control (??) or to test it to see if it's safe for them (they are tested before they're used on the public)SomervilleAddick said:
I’m always mystified as to what the government hoped to achieve by fooling us into taking the vaccine. What do these people think the ultimate objective of the government was?PeanutsMolloy said:0 -
What’s being totally missed here by those condemning the Covid vaccines is that under normal circumstances and times the development of a new vaccine takes anywhere from 5 - 15 years to develop, trial and put to the market. Covid 19, a novel virus of unknown origin was killing thousands of people and overwhelming health services and terrifying the world. Anyone remember those images that came out of Italy of emergency services in chaos. The vaccines developed to combat Covid 19 were desperately needed and yes they were rushed through the processes normally taking years because they had to be. Had they not been expedited albeit with the same scrutiny as any other medication then perhaps many many millions would have died worldwide. Also worth remembering that in that first year of the pandemic nobody knew what was going to happen. Desperate times. Are the Covid vaccines perfect ? Certainly not. Nobody ever said they were. Even the normally prolonged developmental vaccines come with risks as do all medicines. Am I glad they were developed and manufactured in record time. Too bloody right I am. As far as I’m concerned the vaccine risks outweighed terrifying prospect we confronted in 2020. I’ve had every vaccine offered and would do so again.14
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Please stop this @PeanutsMolloy. You don’t bother reading the replies to your posts, which 100% debunk them as nonsense. You’ve fallen down a conspiracy rabbit hole and I wish we could help you climb out of it.PeanutsMolloy said:
Cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra sums it up for me.Matt Le Tissier is rightly considered a figure of ridicule. Don’t be like him.14 -
Pneumonia jab was recommended to me by a nurse practitioner years ago when I was getting a flu jabCharltonKerry said:Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.
Her rationale was that although the chances of catching pneumonia are probably small and most basically healthy people will recover with appropriate treatment and rest, pneumonia is never pleasant, can be nasty and result in long-term to permanent lung damage. Being a vaccine for a bacterial pathogen it is unlikely you'll need boosters or top ups with any great frequency, like with Tetanus it probably helps protect you for years and years.
I accepted her recommendation, as she's a credible medic and the rationale is exactly the same as for having a flu jab.
Added to that, the one otherwise healthy adult I know who caught pneumonia was essentially bed ridden for 3 weeks, off work for a further 3, sounded like he had laryngitis throughout and wheezing like he had emphesema for a couple of months after the infection had cleared up.
I had the jab. No side effects at all.3 -
Matt is wrong. There is no conspiracy. How many deadlines have passed where the side effects of the vaccines were supposed to have turned us into zombies or Bill Gates slaves? I wish you people would grow up.WellingWill said:It is thanks to the courage of Matt LeTissier and many others that that the awful truth is slowly emerging.4 -
I wish people would actually do some research instead of criticising people who have.The figures for vaccine excess deaths and injury since the vaccine rollout are available in the public domain. I know it is difficult to accept but you have been had. To quote the old saying: 'It is easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled'.7
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Post it then pleaseWellingWill said:I wish people would actually do some research instead of criticising people who have.The figures for vaccine excess deaths and injury since the vaccine rollout are available in the public domain. I know it is difficult to accept but you have been had. To quote the old saying: 'It is easier to fool someone than convince them they have been fooled'.1 - Sponsored links:
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This is taken from The Office For National Statistics for which the latest figures are from I think December 2022 which is likely to be as near as we’re going to get to the truth unless of course all those doctors have decided to participate in the cover up and falsified the death certificates. I havnt spent more than a cursory look but I would suggest that the number of deaths attributed to receipt of vaccine is probably very much in line with what would be expected for a new vaccine and given the many millions of doses given I actually think it’s unbelievably encouraging.I’d be grateful if someone who has figures that would dispute this would post.https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsduetocovid19covid19vaccineinjuryandexcessdeathsbyvaccinationstatus
The following from a European Parliament question and although tragically high I’d suggest still within expected levels for the millions and millions of vaccinations given.https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html
There are many more examples from respected organisations that can be cited.4 -
I hate the phrase ‘do your own research’. As it suggests that research is easy. It isn’t.For example. As part of my post-graduate study I completed a meta-analysis of the effective treatments for one particular type of ear infection. Essentially summarising the evidence that existed to come to a view of the best way to treat that condition.It was damned hard. Both identifying research and analysing it. At no point did I use a youtube video to come to my conclusion nor did I use a twitter thread or a web page on a site with dubious motives.Trust me doing your own research is hard. This is why I rely on those more intelligent than me.I am not saying that large drug companies are entirely without ulterior motives (profit) and recommend the book Bad Pharma to those wanting to learn more.I am saying to Welling Will (and anyone else peddling glorified conspiracy theories) what research have you done?18
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What a load of old rigmarole. You could have just looked at Le Tiss's twitter feed. You don't get to play over 400 matches for Southampton without knowing a thing or two about research, I can tell you!kigelia said:...As part of my post-graduate study I completed a meta-analysis of the effective treatments for one particular type of ear infection. Essentially summarising the evidence that existed to come to a view of the best way to treat that condition.It was damned hard. Both identifying research and analysing it...7 -
The research has been done by the RtHon Andrew Bridgen MP. There was a debate in parliament last Friday to which only 15MPs had the decency to attend.14
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The first sentence is all that’s needed to make perfect sense of the second.WellingWill said:The research has been done by the RtHon Andrew Bridgen MP. There was a debate in parliament last Friday to which only 15MPs had the decency to attend.9 -
So much wasted energy, the vast majority of those with anti Covid vaccine views don’t even qualify to receive one!6
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The majority of MPs obviously didn't have the guts to face the truth.Shame on them.5
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Andrew Brigden... Guys he's on a wind up4
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Without getting into his views on Covid. Andrew Bridgen believed British citizens would be entitled to an Irish passport after Brexit.4
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The majority of MPs don’t turn up to quite a few debates that aren’t connected to legislation. Says more about MPs than pretending it’s because they are hiding.0
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It’s a grift, he’s had far more exposure doing this than even before, when he was called a liar by the courts and screwed over his own family.McBobbin said:Andrew Brigden... Guys he's on a wind up2 -
How can we trust your comments when eight words in you get the title of the Reclaim party MP wrong?WellingWill said:The research has been done by the RtHon Andrew Bridgen MP. There was a debate in parliament last Friday to which only 15MPs had the decency to attend.
You may want to do a little more "research" yourself. The tile RtHon. is for members of the Privy Council not ordinary MPs.
Also not relating to any of your comments but just a general observation and absolutely no research done by me, (I wouldn't truly know where to start nor would most), but I have noticed whenever there is any mention on any platform about Corvid vaccines there are always and without exception people speaking or writing about they know or know of many individuals who either died or were damaged/injured by vaccines.
I don't know a single person who has suffered side effects or any that died as a result of taking a vaccine. Thats not to say there isn't any, just my own experience but considering the size of the organisations I have worked for in the past few years and the size of my family and friend groups, I find it strange to not know of a single person. I have, however, had many people I know complain of a sore arm which is quite normal when you get stabbed with a needle and a fluid injected regardless of what it contains. There is those who imagine a side effect because they have been told there could be side effects this is also normal behaviour. And there are also those who make stuff up for whatever reason, there really should be research done on this group.
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If nothing else, this thread is useful as a guide to the Lifers whose opinions can safely be ignored. Just check out the Likes on a PeanutsMolloy post and hey presto, there's a handy list for you.3
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You've excelled yourself with this one Peanuts!PeanutsMolloy said:
Cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra sums it up for me.
Borrowed from Wiki about Dr Malhotra:
His views on diet and health have been criticized by the British Heart Foundation as "misleading and wrong", and his public questioning of the need ever to use statins has been condemned as a danger to public health. His "Pioppi diet" was named by the British Dietetic Association as one of the "top 5 worst celeb diets to avoid in 2018.
Can we have another thread for "Nutters that Peanuts believes"? I'm waiting to hear that he's been contacted by Doris Stokes from the afterlife with some more meaningless fruitcake dross.
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Yes, it was problem free.CharltonKerry said:Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.3 -
today's was my SIXTH .. hope the vaccine isn't causing memory loss lol ..Lincsaddick said:having yet another jab, fourth or fifth (lost count) tomorrow .. been Covid free so far, touch wood
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I was in my 50s and fit and healthy but contracted pneumonia and had such a hacking cough I broke a couple of ribs. I ended up in hospital and was extremely ill. Took months to get back to normal. So yes, a good idea to have the jab.Billy_Mix said:
Pneumonia jab was recommended to me by a nurse practitioner years ago when I was getting a flu jabCharltonKerry said:Anyone had the pneumonia jab? Any after effects, been asked to book one next week.
Her rationale was that although the chances of catching pneumonia are probably small and most basically healthy people will recover with appropriate treatment and rest, pneumonia is never pleasant, can be nasty and result in long-term to permanent lung damage. Being a vaccine for a bacterial pathogen it is unlikely you'll need boosters or top ups with any great frequency, like with Tetanus it probably helps protect you for years and years.
I accepted her recommendation, as she's a credible medic and the rationale is exactly the same as for having a flu jab.
Added to that, the one otherwise healthy adult I know who caught pneumonia was essentially bed ridden for 3 weeks, off work for a further 3, sounded like he had laryngitis throughout and wheezing like he had emphesema for a couple of months after the infection had cleared up.
I had the jab. No side effects at all.6 -
Shocks me that this post received only two likes, and the one above it about ‘doing your own research on the internet’ received eight. I know it’s because anti vaxxers tend to be evangelical and would want to engage with this thread, whereas the great majority trust the medical consensus and wouldn’t bother arguing with strangers about it.ShootersHillGuru said:This is taken from The Office For National Statistics for which the latest figures are from I think December 2022 which is likely to be as near as we’re going to get to the truth unless of course all those doctors have decided to participate in the cover up and falsified the death certificates. I havnt spent more than a cursory look but I would suggest that the number of deaths attributed to receipt of vaccine is probably very much in line with what would be expected for a new vaccine and given the many millions of doses given I actually think it’s unbelievably encouraging.I’d be grateful if someone who has figures that would dispute this would post.https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsduetocovid19covid19vaccineinjuryandexcessdeathsbyvaccinationstatus
The following from a European Parliament question and although tragically high I’d suggest still within expected levels for the millions and millions of vaccinations given.https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2023-001201_EN.html
There are many more examples from respected organisations that can be cited.But for me people who spread misinformation are dangerous - many of the people dying of covid, in American hospitals in particular, wouldn’t believe they had the disease, had refused the vaccines, and died as a result.
Please think before you post articles you’ve found on the internet that are not fully peer reviewed. Maverick grifters are not your friends.8 -
Absolutely zero.kigelia said:I hate the phrase ‘do your own research’. As it suggests that research is easy. It isn’t.For example. As part of my post-graduate study I completed a meta-analysis of the effective treatments for one particular type of ear infection. Essentially summarising the evidence that existed to come to a view of the best way to treat that condition.It was damned hard. Both identifying research and analysing it. At no point did I use a youtube video to come to my conclusion nor did I use a twitter thread or a web page on a site with dubious motives.Trust me doing your own research is hard. This is why I rely on those more intelligent than me.I am not saying that large drug companies are entirely without ulterior motives (profit) and recommend the book Bad Pharma to those wanting to learn more.I am saying to Welling Will (and anyone else peddling glorified conspiracy theories) what research have you done?0
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