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Supporters to return for MK Dons tonight (thoughts on experience from page 31)
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That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?0 -
Hope the last 100 or so seats get taken & we have the full 2000 at the game.1
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You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?14 -
It's over 4,000 generally. And it's looking like it will be a full (2,000) house.
We've just been speaking to Wayne Mumford, the staff have been working their socks off for this, some of the staff have not long left the building....... to go home and wade through the final 200 emails they haven't got to yet.
It's not perfect, but the club have done everything they possibly can in the timescales (remember it was only Friday where they were told).39 -
Magnificent effort, some fans getting e mails as late as midnight.Rob7Lee said:It's over 4,000 generally. And it's looking like it will be a full (2,000) house.
We've just been speaking to Wayne Mumford, the staff have been working their socks off for this, some of the staff have not long left the building....... to go home and wade through the final 200 emails they haven't got to yet.
It's not perfect, but the club have done everything they possibly can in the timescales (remember it was only Friday where they were told).2 -
Managed to grab a seat for tomorrows game - Looking forward to getting back to the Valley! I'm assuming not, but does anyone know if the Club Shop will be open tomorrow before the game? Kill some time from the 6pm meet!1
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I believe the shop will be closing at 5pm, this is due to social distancing measures.CraicAddick said:Managed to grab a seat for tomorrows game - Looking forward to getting back to the Valley! I'm assuming not, but does anyone know if the Club Shop will be open tomorrow before the game? Kill some time from the 6pm meet!2 -
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?
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Things like this need to be highlighted to the fanbase moreRob7Lee said:It's over 4,000 generally. And it's looking like it will be a full (2,000) house.
We've just been speaking to Wayne Mumford, the staff have been working their socks off for this, some of the staff have not long left the building....... to go home and wade through the final 200 emails they haven't got to yet.
It's not perfect, but the club have done everything they possibly can in the timescales (remember it was only Friday where they were told).
Wonder how many would actually complain if they knew the efforts that went into things like this18 -
We have a club to supportMStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?
We have a slot in the top six despite a dodgy start
And we have ticket office staff who will have waded through thousands of emails and calls so as to ensure that the best part of 2,000 ST holders will be at the game tomorrow
What's not to like?
With luck and a following wind there will be a vaccine widely circulated before the start of next season? And that will mean there will be a third wave of Covid-19 to negotiate, perhaps even a fourth before the country returns to something like normal.
At times like this we should be thankful that we have fully functioning supermarkets, deliveroo, Amazon and the football
Panem et circenses!3 -
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I know it's difficult after years of dealing with Roland and the the cast of characters not to be negative or start off like that.ForeverAddickted said:
Things like this need to be highlighted to the fanbase moreRob7Lee said:It's over 4,000 generally. And it's looking like it will be a full (2,000) house.
We've just been speaking to Wayne Mumford, the staff have been working their socks off for this, some of the staff have not long left the building....... to go home and wade through the final 200 emails they haven't got to yet.
It's not perfect, but the club have done everything they possibly can in the timescales (remember it was only Friday where they were told).
Wonder how many would actually complain if they knew the efforts that went into things like this
But ultimately we seem to now have people in charge who really do care and really really want to do the right thing every time. Will they always get it 100% right? Probably not, none of us do, but at least they'll be no malice intended, but mistakes do and will happen.
We've in the main ALWAYS had staff that care and often in the past have put themselves at personal risk to do the right thing. I don't know this for sure, but believe most of the ticket office have been on Furlough and assume they've now been called back in probably with a days/weekends notice, so they will probably be rusty but there's no doubting the effort they are putting in, once again above and beyond what their pay grade expects of them (these aren't highly paid people with a flat looking over the river and a 100k range rover!).
For once we are all pulling in the same direction, so let's help not hinder as that will benefit all of us, staff, supporters (of which many staff are) and on the pitch.
COYR's!!
Maybe a gofundme page is in order to buy the staff a present!9 -
Many did not buy season tickets because they thought that by doing so would bring about the end of our Club. No one knew at the time who was right and we have been very lucky.MStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?Why do you think that buying season tickets make you the most important fans? Do you think you are better than those who didn’t? Is having the money make you super fans? Is a fan who buys an individual ticket and has done so for the last 60yrs less of a fan? What about the points system that acknowledges fans who go home and away? I thought points were meant to be the deciding priority for tickets - those who go home and away?
You all come across as the type that buy a pass to jump the line at a theme park. Contempt.4 -
.........Brendan_O_Connell said:golfaddick said:I now know what it's like to be a 3rd class citizen. It used to be that you were told you were elite by way of wealth or title, but now it seems just living in Kent means you are now not even able to go & watch a football match. I suppose I'll just have to be satisfied exchanging my ST for CAFC cash & "purchase" my streaming ticket that way. Never thought i'd be a lower class of citizen than those living in Bermondsey.
Ho hum.
Golfie, you're a miserable git whose glass is always half empty. You're always moaning or complaining and are never happy about anything.I like this and think we'd get on really well! We should definitely hang out more!
Waiting for my invite........3 -
Talking of new leadership and good staff Wayne Mumford is having a zoom meeting with Bromley Addicks on 17 December4
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Redrobo, are you suggesting that people that have bought tickets should not be permitted entrance.
But people who haven't bought tickets can be sold tickets so that they can enter instead?2 -
Clutching at straws.Redrobo said:
Many did not buy season tickets because they thought that by doing so would bring about the end of our Club. No one knew at the time who was right and we have been very lucky.MStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?Why do you think that buying season tickets make you the most important fans? Do you think you are better than those who didn’t? Is having the money make you super fans? Is a fan who buys an individual ticket and has done so for the last 60yrs less of a fan? What about the points system that acknowledges fans who go home and away? I thought points were meant to be the deciding priority for tickets - those who go home and away?
You all come across as the type that buy a pass to jump the line at a theme park. Contempt.1 -
The club have done very very well to get hopefully as many tickets sold as possible, for what is really the first in a series of glorified test events. Hopefully 2000 in over the next few home games will be a big help further down the line to allow a lot more to attend.
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Lets hope that at some stage London goes into Tier 1, which would double the numbers allowed in
Though being pessimistic, it might go the other way into Tier 3...0 -
It’s disappointing to read the old ‘I bought a ticket when I didn’t even know if there would be a Club to support’ bollocks. So what? I had a season ticket from 1980 to 2017, so what? If you have one now then good for you as you can get to see the games. Does that bother me? No. I don’t have one, my problem. But don’t think that because you have one now you are somehow better than every fucking one else.4
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Whatever way the club handled this season ticket holders had to get priority because they have paid for the tickets, If you used loyalty points all season ticket holders start with at least 230 points, if Valley Gold was used probably half of the season ticket holders are members.Redrobo said:
Many did not buy season tickets because they thought that by doing so would bring about the end of our Club. No one knew at the time who was right and we have been very lucky.MStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?Why do you think that buying season tickets make you the most important fans? Do you think you are better than those who didn’t? Is having the money make you super fans? Is a fan who buys an individual ticket and has done so for the last 60yrs less of a fan? What about the points system that acknowledges fans who go home and away? I thought points were meant to be the deciding priority for tickets - those who go home and away?
You all come across as the type that buy a pass to jump the line at a theme park. Contempt.
All clubs are facing similar issues, a lot of clubs have spent the season ticket income on keeping the clubs running, they have no money to refund people.
The loyalty point system was not designed for home matches, it was meant to help fans get tickets for away matches where there is a high demand or a limited ticket allocation.12 -
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I genuinely don’t think anyone is suggesting they are better than anyone else.LargeAddick said:It’s disappointing to read the old ‘I bought a ticket when I didn’t even know if there would be a Club to support’ bollocks. So what? I had a season ticket from 1980 to 2017, so what? If you have one now then good for you as you can get to see the games. Does that bother me? No. I don’t have one, my problem. But don’t think that because you have one now you are somehow better than every fucking one else.2 -
I’m just itching to get back. It’s like the day before season opener! Really looking forward to it even if it means getting there for 6pm
And in case I’m coming across too positive, can I just complain that I’m missing out on a ticket for the Range raffle cos I’m not buying the stream6 -
I’m really surprised people are so not bothered about being asked to turn up at 6 o’clock for a game that kicks off at 7:45. I appreciate why, but if that was me, and then the prospect of being held back for another 30 mins after the game ! I think I’d rather stick with the stream.An no I don’t think this makes me less of a supporter. I just can’t stand the thought sitting in the ground for so, long waiting. Especially as the main event is MK DONS.0
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Anyone know when Thomas is back? Would be good to see him at the game now fans are back0
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Welcome back.seriously_red said:
We have a club to supportMStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?
We have a slot in the top six despite a dodgy start
And we have ticket office staff who will have waded through thousands of emails and calls so as to ensure that the best part of 2,000 ST holders will be at the game tomorrow
What's not to like?
With luck and a following wind there will be a vaccine widely circulated before the start of next season? And that will mean there will be a third wave of Covid-19 to negotiate, perhaps even a fourth before the country returns to something like normal.
At times like this we should be thankful that we have fully functioning supermarkets, deliveroo, Amazon and the football
Panem et circenses!
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Totally understand your point. Pity it’s such a shit game. Physically *really* not looking forward to it, but mentally; a few seats from family, travelling (socially distanced) with friends - for a brief moment I can pretend that things might one day get back to something resembling normalRaplhMilne said:I’m really surprised people are so not bothered about being asked to turn up at 6 o’clock for a game that kicks off at 7:45. I appreciate why, but if that was me, and then the prospect of being held back for another 30 mins after the game ! I think I’d rather stick with the stream.An no I don’t think this makes me less of a supporter. I just can’t stand the thought sitting in the ground for so, long waiting. Especially as the main event is MK DONS.2 -
That is one way of viewing it and in a normal season I would be behind this 100%. But we are in a very unique situation and it is not me that is not permitting entrance to anyone. No one who bought a season ticket did so with a realistic expectation to actually watch games from the start of the season and many have said that they bought one so that they would be at the front of the q to see a game, or they were like so many I know that said they may as well buy as they wanted their seat as soon as they could go in and would get back any unspent money and also wanted cheap tickets. All very fine, but against my advice to risk giving money to crooks that would have their money away given half a chance.Covered End said:Redrobo, are you suggesting that people that have bought tickets should not be permitted entrance.
But people who haven't bought tickets can be sold tickets so that they can enter instead?
But look at it from another perspective, is it so wrong to say that on a normal game x% of tickets are season ticket holders, and y% of supporter that buy a ticket on the day, so the draw be on that basis?
Surely we are all just fans that should have a fair chance of watching a game. Is that too much to ask? An equal chance?
I would point out that I won’t be going because of age and health (and living in Kent) in any circumstances. But I know many that are devastated by this and I am sure that most can understand why.
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At the Doncaster game the early arrival/late departure times didn't bother people too much because the weather was good. it was daylight & people were just pleased to be back at 'The Valley'. Tomorrow night will be a completely different experience, cold, dark & for some people a very long day if they have been working or travelled a long distance.RaplhMilne said:I’m really surprised people are so not bothered about being asked to turn up at 6 o’clock for a game that kicks off at 7:45. I appreciate why, but if that was me, and then the prospect of being held back for another 30 mins after the game ! I think I’d rather stick with the stream.An no I don’t think this makes me less of a supporter. I just can’t stand the thought sitting in the ground for so, long waiting. Especially as the main event is MK DONS.
It will be interesting to see if the experience deters people attending in the near future.
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Not at all past history shows season ticket holders will always get priority this is an argument that comes up every time there is a big game or lack of ticketsRedrobo said:
Many did not buy season tickets because they thought that by doing so would bring about the end of our Club. No one knew at the time who was right and we have been very lucky.MStuartPerm said:
Would 100% agree with SE9Addick, many people bought season tickets when it wasn’t certain they would be a club to support.se9addick said: hi
You cannot give tickets to people who haven’t bought one at the expense of those that have. There is absolutely no scenario where people who haven’t bought a season ticket should have the chance to go to a match ahead of people who have.Redrobo said:
That is a lot considering that a lot will be sharing with families.Valley27000 said:
Over 3,000 a match.Redrobo said:Out of interest, does anyone know how many buy the streams?
I would guess that a good % are season ticket holders. Would it be so offensive if both were added together and entered into a ballot for tickets? If a season ticket holder were also streaming they would get twice the chance of getting a ticket. Would it not be better to give more fans the opportunity to see a game live?Why do you think that buying season tickets make you the most important fans? Do you think you are better than those who didn’t? Is having the money make you super fans? Is a fan who buys an individual ticket and has done so for the last 60yrs less of a fan? What about the points system that acknowledges fans who go home and away? I thought points were meant to be the deciding priority for tickets - those who go home and away?
You all come across as the type that buy a pass to jump the line at a theme park. Contempt.
People decided to boycott and not support Roland or Southall and Farnell or can’t buy a season ticket due to other commitments doesn’t make them any less of a fan but due to the way the club defines priority season ticket holders come first.Given there are over 4,800 (less those that can’t go due to medical reasons or in tier 3) and only 2,000 tickets then season ticket holders who would in normal circumstances be at every home game should in my opinion get first refusal. if they don’t take up all the tickets then by all means should go on sale to the remaining fans on a loyalty point basis: like they are likely to tomorrow.I would expect demand go out strip supply for the AFC game as it’s a Saturday:
personally I would prefer the loyalty points To be used. I would be in the second tier due to the amount of games I went to away last season as well as having a season ticket for the past two seasons and therefore guaranteed to be in the top 2,000 for every game. However I am not selfish and i think the ballot Was the fairest way to distribute the tickets. The club have not on this occasion decided not to use the loyalty point system., which they did for Doncaster
Maybe the club should use the loyalty points as then fans that have bought tickets for home and away games and have more points than season ticket holders will then be recognised.I appreciate fans have been going for years but the ticketing system is decided by the club and on the fairest basis they can and it only covers the past two seasons.
It’s very similar to when we get a big game and people who don’t have enough loyalty points start bleating it’s not fair I have been going for years and should get a ticket. the rules are set out at the start and we know what they are and all have to follow them.It’s a shame we don’t get extra kudos for having a season ticket at Selhurst or Upton Park or going for over 44years I can’t have done anymore my Dad didn’t inflict Charlton on me until I was 5.
I don’t queue jump or pull favours to get ahead I just follow the rules set out by the club if the clubs decide to use loyalty points going forward if someone has been to more games in the period stipulated by the club to earn more loyalty points than me then by all means they have more right to a ticket than me if that is how the club decides to award tickets7
