It’s funny how you all picked different sides every week but want a settled side too.
Just because the spotlight isn’t on your every week you get away with.
You’re not professional football managers for a reason.
”yeah but it’s my opinion” grow up
This opinion is now making me fuming so I probably need a break from this thread. In my eyes anyone showing blind loyalty for Lee ‘pwoper Charlton’ Bowyer has literally no care whatsoever to the performance of this club on the pitch and it’s long term health.
Football is a performance game. Not a bloody love in to look after anyone who has an association with our history.
I’m ranting now and I can’t even help myself.
Some people seem to be Bowyer fans over a Charlton.
The majority of us are Charlton first and only Charlton.
My opinion of Bowyers management hasn't changed since our promotion season. Even back then with the players we had, we never seemed convincing in our wins and certainly not entertaining to watch, but he was still in his "probational" period and promotion gave me hope (I still stand by my comment a few weeks ago that we limped our way there). A short honeymoon period in the championship before he was found out. Due to all the shit going on off the pitch, he became almost the messiah to most fans and could do no wrong and I think he himself believed the hype. A new steady ownership should have given him a kickstart to greater things, but instead, strip away the excuses of off the field interruptions and his frailties are there for all to see.
Something I read from another poster was that maybe he won't get sacked until the end of the season, as Sandgaard might have someone lined up, but not available until the summer. This might be the case, but I'd still rather see him gone now and get a caretaker in for now
I think you need to imagine if Pardew saying some of the things Bowyer has been saying the last couple of years, how angry more people would be and hate the bloke. He probably wasnt even as bad at the excuses every week
Im sorry but people were telling other fans not to call him names but these quotes are a disgrace. Ive never heard a professional football manager speak like that.
It’s funny how you all picked different sides every week but want a settled side too.
Just because the spotlight isn’t on your every week you get away with.
You’re not professional football managers for a reason.
”yeah but it’s my opinion” grow up
The bottom line is Bowyer is paid to do a job...a job that he isn’t doing very well at. Part of being a football fan is to be a bit fickle - that’s just how it is. But part of Bowyers job is to to pick a team capable of competing - he hasn’t been able to do that. The buck stops with him. He had a transfer window to sort out absolutely abysmal defence out and he chose not to do it. Any fickle football fan could see that our problem was at the back - but Bowyer couldn’t.
No actually you all said the problem was with Boywer management not with anything at the back.
He’s not doing very well... I’m not blind.
I don’t think it’s right to say fans being fickle is fine
Think people are going to continue to be disappointed
I thought that a while ago, but things can change quickly if we get a few more results like the last two. I don't see any other outcome than more defeats at the moment, do you?
It’s funny how you all picked different sides every week but want a settled side too.
Just because the spotlight isn’t on your every week you get away with.
You’re not professional football managers for a reason.
”yeah but it’s my opinion” grow up
What does Lee Bowyer have on you? How, after the abysmal performance and press conference, do you manage to find a way to turn this on other fans?
Please tell me what you would do different in his shoes
This is a very weak retort, considering I am not paid to do his job and nor would I want to be.
I would suggest however actually taking some personal responsibility rather than Brent-esque soundbites and an incessant stream of scapegoating players.
Seriously, what has to happen for you to admit we're underachieving and Bowyer isn't Jesus?
Think people are going to continue to be disappointed
I thought that a while ago, but things can change quickly if we get a few more results like the last two. I don't see any other outcome than more defeats at the moment, do you?
We can't lose every game forever - Unfortunately I just dont see us going on a good enough run to get into the top six
A lot of people seem to be hanging on to him being sacked.
I would prepare for him to still be manager at Wigan on Tuesday. There might be an understanding between LB and TS as to what is going on behind the scenes.
If TS publicly backed him on Thursday then is 1 more defeat against an inform side 2 days later going to be the tipping point?
I wanted him to have a chance to rebuild over the summer, putting this season down to just not having worked, but Bowyer with enough credit for how he got us up two seasons ago and the circumstances in which he handled last year, but after today it’s clear it’s not going to work.
The quotes coming out now very clearly show he’s not in control anymore. He’s lost the dressing room which is a shame and I hate that the vitriol has set in from some quarters over the last few months, but we can’t go on like this.
If he stays then it will become toxic across the whole club and fanbase
It’s funny how you all picked different sides every week but want a settled side too.
Just because the spotlight isn’t on your every week you get away with.
You’re not professional football managers for a reason.
”yeah but it’s my opinion” grow up
What does Lee Bowyer have on you? How, after the abysmal performance and press conference, do you manage to find a way to turn this on other fans?
Please tell me what you would do different in his shoes
This is a very weak retort, considering I am not paid to do his job and nor would I want to be.
I would suggest however actually taking some personal responsibility rather than Brent-esque soundbites and an incessant stream of scapegoating players.
Seriously, what has to happen for you to admit we're underachieving and Bowyer isn't Jesus?
I think we are underachieving. I think his comments have been bizarre.
I also know there aren’t many mangers who come out and say I’m shit and got it all wrong. So why are you expecting any different?
He is over reliant on senior players who he expects not to let him down. They are doing that.
I think we’d all got for a similar set up in team today except swap Aneke and Washington.
Not his fault the wingers offered nothing, so he changed it
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The majority of us are Charlton first and only Charlton.
Oh wow. If they were not playing for him before, that seals the deal.
Im sorry but people were telling other fans not to call him names but these quotes are a disgrace. Ive never heard a professional football manager speak like that.
He’s not doing very well... I’m not blind.
I would suggest however actually taking some personal responsibility rather than Brent-esque soundbites and an incessant stream of scapegoating players.
Seriously, what has to happen for you to admit we're underachieving and Bowyer isn't Jesus?
I would prepare for him to still be manager at Wigan on Tuesday. There might be an understanding between LB and TS as to what is going on behind the scenes.
If TS publicly backed him on Thursday then is 1 more defeat against an inform side 2 days later going to be the tipping point?
Think a lot of people will be disappointed
The quotes coming out now very clearly show he’s not in control anymore. He’s lost the dressing room which is a shame and I hate that the vitriol has set in from some quarters over the last few months, but we can’t go on like this.
I also know there aren’t many mangers who come out and say I’m shit and got it all wrong. So why are you expecting any different?
He is over reliant on senior players who he expects not to let him down. They are doing that.
I think we’d all got for a similar set up in team today except swap Aneke and Washington.
Not his fault the wingers offered nothing, so he changed it