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Has Bowyer lost it?
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When we’ve been played off the park and looked like getting a result for about 1 out of the 90 minutes.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!3 -
Its potentially an interesting discussion for another thread
But is it a sign of how Technology has changed since 1992 what with the introduction of Internet Forums etc.
My point is in 1991/92 we finished 7th under Curbs and Gritt
The following year we had a period were we got 14-points from seventeen games, ended up 12th in the League
This season we're going through a period of 18-points from seventeen games
Should Curbs and Gritt have gone?4 -
It really is that simple.jonseventyfive said:Not sure about lost it, but I'd say pick your best available 11 in their preferred positions, and go from there.1 -
It’s the manner of it. It’s also consistent now, shocking football, our only tactic seems to be lump it up top. Don’t get me started on the defence.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!4 -
that's the performance, not the result.cafc_harry said:
When we’ve been played off the park and looked like getting a result for about 1 out of the 90 minutes.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!0 -
I don't disagree with that to be fair, not defending the performance.J BLOCK said:
It’s the manner of it. It’s also consistent now, shocking football, our only tactic seems to be lump it up top. Don’t get me started on the defence.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!2 -
Hahahahhaha you guys gave it a week!3
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Despite changing my mind each week I’m inclined to agree with this after tonight.flyingkiwiDK said:Make the change now and I reckon we’ve still got an outside shot of the playoffs. Do nothing and mid table mediocrity beckons.
The “new manager bounce”, cliche as it may be, could work for us, it just depends how quickly TS wants a return on his investment. If it’s five years, he may want this season in the play offs, as a necessity.0 -
J BLOCK said:
It’s the manner of it. It’s also consistent now, shocking football, our only tactic seems to be lump it up top. Don’t get me started on the defence.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!
Yeah, but once we get Famewo and Innis back just watch us rocket up that table.7 -
Bowyer does the same thing every week, we have one half decent performance and he changes the formation and lineup and we play like absolute shit. Then we have the double HT sub and go back to last week tactics.1
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Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.4 -
Agree give him to the end of the season and review then.se9addick said:Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.1 -
We know he’s your love child but you can’t defend it any more surely?esseffect said:Hahahahhaha you guys gave it a week!0 -
Portsmouth have conceded 12 goals in five games and scored 4 or 5 in that same period. They just put three past us in 100 minutes and could have had more.cafcfan1990 said:
that's the performance, not the result.cafc_harry said:
When we’ve been played off the park and looked like getting a result for about 1 out of the 90 minutes.cafcfan1990 said:
When did losing to Portsmouth become such a shocking result?StanTheMan said:Shocking result, as much as it hurts to say, but I am sorry but Bowyer has to be sacked, simply not good enough, had a massive opportunity to build a youthful team, and blew it with the old brigade who have not got the legs!
That's what makes it bad. They're NOT that good a team, or in good form. We make them look that way.2 -
I'd agree it is not an ideal time, but a new manager will need more than the summer to know what they have to rebuild with.se9addick said:Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.1 -
Yes. Tonight was the final straw for me. Tinkering with the team and formation again after a good win last time out was crazy.
Next question.2 -
I’d release Bowyer back to his fishing lake now, I really don’t think Sandgaard will.Dazzler21 said:
I'd agree but a new manager will need more than the summer to know what they have to rebuild with.se9addick said:Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.Agree that a new manager getting a couple of months to see what is needed before hitting the ground running in the summer would be a big benefit.3 -
As I've said, he probably deserves one or two games with Jaiyesimi, but he'd better win them2
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Why wait for the inevitable? I really don’t get this attitude.roseandcrown said:
Agree give him to the end of the season and review then.se9addick said:Bowyer won’t be sacked this season, certainly not now, would be crazy to make that decision the day after the transfer window closes.
Not saying I agree with it, but that’s how I see it.
The excuses are drying up now.
I’m sure Bowyer said after the Rochdale debacle that that would never happen with a Pratley or a Watson on the pitch.
The players are so scared to not show they’re weak after the public shaming of Albie, Williams and Maddison that they’ve forgotten how to play football. The amount of stupid fouls we gave away tonight was horrendous.
I’m incredibly thankful for everything he’s done for the club over the past few years but we need to get out of this league and we’re not going to do it with him in charge.8 -
must be a forum glitch as there doesn’t seem to be any posts on this thread last week?:-).12
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Bowyer gets to the end of the season. We don’t get into the playoffs. Rebuild with him at the helm or get rid after the last game. Unless TS thinks we can pull this around I can see no benefit now in keeping Bowyer. If anyone can see us turning it around I’m amazed.0
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Look get Curbs off the Valley pass and director of football. Simple help Lee our!1
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If we're going to change manager I'd rather do it sooner than later to give them time to properly evaluate the squad and plan for the summer rebuild.15
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I just think give him until the end of the season.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
We know he’s your love child but you can’t defend it any more surely?esseffect said:Hahahahhaha you guys gave it a week!On the post-match thread I called what I thought were mistakes.
He even said tonight the squad is good enough so if they don’t make play offs that’s a lot of pressure on him.
I think the squads good enough but there are still some individual errors.I’m disappointed he didn’t call out Watson for not clearing the ball, but people here don’t want him calling players out so..0 -
Lee put himself under pressure with the team selection tonight - looked odd then didn’t work.Dropping (... resting?!) Millar with DJ ready to come in on Sat looked wrong from the start.Desperate for Innis back.3
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See my post above with regard to waiting until the end of the season.esseffect said:
I just think give him until the end of the season.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
We know he’s your love child but you can’t defend it any more surely?esseffect said:Hahahahhaha you guys gave it a week!On the post-match thread I called what I thought were mistakes.
He even said tonight the squad is good enough so if they don’t make play offs that’s a lot of pressure on him.
I think the squads good enough but there are still some individual errors.I’m disappointed he didn’t call out Watson for not clearing the ball, but people here don’t want him calling players out so..
Players make mistakes when they’re not comfortable.1 -
Curbs and Gritt were in the Championship and building. Gritt did end up going! Not sure what your point is there.ForeverAddickted said:Its potentially an interesting discussion for another thread
But is it a sign of how Technology has changed since 1992 what with the introduction of Internet Forums etc.
My point is in 1991/92 we finished 7th under Curbs and Gritt
The following year we had a period were we got 14-points from seventeen games, ended up 12th in the League
This season we're going through a period of 18-points from seventeen games
Should Curbs and Gritt have gone?1 -
Well not really as we went backwards in those two years, that wouldnt be acceptable from fans now, it really wouldntMuttleyCAFC said:
Curbs and Gritt were in the Championship and building. Gritt did end up going! Not sure what your point is there.ForeverAddickted said:Its potentially an interesting discussion for another thread
But is it a sign of how Technology has changed since 1992 what with the introduction of Internet Forums etc.
My point is in 1991/92 we finished 7th under Curbs and Gritt
The following year we had a period were we got 14-points from seventeen games, ended up 12th in the League
This season we're going through a period of 18-points from seventeen games
Should Curbs and Gritt have gone?
Parkinson got sacked because we finished 4th and were then sitting 4th the following year
Bowyer is in League One and building
Unfortunately for Lee he's just come off the back of a Championship relegation where he was betrayed by owners and players
As for Gritt, he didnt leave for another two seasons6 -
What is Lee building exactly?ForeverAddickted said:
Well not really as we went backwards in those two years, that wouldnt be acceptable from fans now, it really wouldntMuttleyCAFC said:
Curbs and Gritt were in the Championship and building. Gritt did end up going! Not sure what your point is there.ForeverAddickted said:Its potentially an interesting discussion for another thread
But is it a sign of how Technology has changed since 1992 what with the introduction of Internet Forums etc.
My point is in 1991/92 we finished 7th under Curbs and Gritt
The following year we had a period were we got 14-points from seventeen games, ended up 12th in the League
This season we're going through a period of 18-points from seventeen games
Should Curbs and Gritt have gone?
Parkinson got sacked because we finished 4th and were then sitting 4th the following year
Bowyer is in League One and building
Unfortunately for Lee he's just come off the back of a Championship relegation where he was betrayed by owners and players
As for Gritt, he didnt leave for another two seasons1
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