I wish someone would ask Bowyer why we continue to play Gunter and not our, arguably, most consistent player of the last 18 months - Adam Matthews.
I just do not get that. A solid, classy defender who would bring stability at the back.
It’s a tough one. Definitely one of our best players last season. He has been on and off this season which some individual errors. (Rochdale and Portsmouth)
The way he plays is like he’s used to playing at a higher level so will expect his teammates to be comfortable on the ball in tight spaces. It just ends up being a hospital pass in the end like with Watson.
Gunter hasn’t been great, I just think that consistently at the back is so important now
Maybe he see's Gunter as the better full back or maybe that Gunter had the shirt while Matthews was looking around for a better offer.
if i was to oversee a complete re build for next season, the players i would want to keep / build my team around, in an ideal world - putting aside that some are on loan but you never know....
definite:
millar chucks stiockley famewo
possibly:
amos smith winger / striker from swindon innis schwartz shinnie maarsen
put out on loan:
morgan
get shot of if possible / if not already out of contract:
gunter pearce oshalaja purrington jfc pratley watson washington gilbey
that's 4 players out of our entire squad that i think are nailed on to be good enough to win promotion so yes, LB is not completely wrong in what he is saying about overachieving but doesn't mean he isn't making a poot fist of things with what he has got coz i doubt any squad in league 1 has more and if you add the 7 possibles, you have a pretty decent nucleas to at least get in the play offs
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
How very dare you doubt, that the great gods Famewo and Inniss are not true, gods and they will propel us to the Champions League final without ever losing another game. The followers of the great sage Bowyer, have spoken, that all that ails us, will be well, when the Famewo and Inniss, return to walk amongst us.
Who was it shouting 'Beast mode' 'Two on the floor Chucks' after his first booking?
Evans was screaming for a second red card at the end when a tackle went in down by the corner flag. He’s a horrible individual.
To be fair - as the saying goes - it was a nasty and violent tackle. Pearce clattered in to the calves of the Gills player. It was shown again, in slow motion. Looked like a red-card offence.
Who was it shouting 'Beast mode' 'Two on the floor Chucks' after his first booking?
Evans was screaming for a second red card at the end when a tackle went in down by the corner flag. He’s a horrible individual.
To be fair - as the saying goes - it was a nasty and violent tackle. Pearce clattered in to the calves of the Gills player. It was shown again, in slow motion. Looked like a red-card offence.
Brainless tackle with no danger and 2mins of injury time left
I was fuming at this game management from a senior pro
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
Just thinking about Stockley and Chuks playing together up front - both good players, both scored yesterday but the downside is that it seems to have the psychological effect on the rest of our team to want to lump far too many long balls up to them. Millar was a notable exception. The long balls continued even after Chuks' red card, when Stockley was isolated up front. We've got tom be smarter than that.
The thing is, we have scored 4 goals in the 2 games they have played and they have scored 3 of them. Also, they have been unlucky enough to hit the woodwork a few rimes. The issue is more a defensive one.
PHOSTH (Posting having only seen the highlights) but wow some cracking goals and near misses from both sides. Exciting game for the neutral i imagine. All three of their goals were special. From the highlights it seems a little harsh to say our defence was diabolical. Just one goal for them from inside the box and it was a cracker from a tight angle.
Bowyer is happy where we are. Well I’m fucking not, get that defence sorted you imbecile
I did not realize managers can turn dross into gold. Wish someone pointed that out to me earlier.
He had an entire transfer window to sign defenders. He chose not to.
What makes you think this is his job? Steve Gallen manages transfers and we had a wage cap at the time and you can't buy if the owner does not give you money. We are net sellers since TS took over. You need to move on from the old paradigm that the manager "manages" the club and is thus responsible for who we bring in. That is not true in Lee's case and has not been true at CAFC for years.
Bowyer is happy where we are. Well I’m fucking not, get that defence sorted you imbecile
I did not realize managers can turn dross into gold. Wish someone pointed that out to me earlier.
He had an entire transfer window to sign defenders. He chose not to.
What makes you think this is his job? Steve Gallen manages transfers and we had a wage cap at the time and you can't buy if the owner does not give you money. We are net sellers since TS took over. You need to move on from the old paradigm that the manager "manages" the club and is thus responsible for who we bring in. That is not true in Lee's case and has not been true at CAFC for years.
Bowyer decides in what position he wants signings though.
Bowyer is happy where we are. Well I’m fucking not, get that defence sorted you imbecile
I did not realize managers can turn dross into gold. Wish someone pointed that out to me earlier.
He had an entire transfer window to sign defenders. He chose not to.
What makes you think this is his job? Steve Gallen manages transfers and we had a wage cap at the time and you can't buy if the owner does not give you money. We are net sellers since TS took over. You need to move on from the old paradigm that the manager "manages" the club and is thus responsible for who we bring in. That is not true in Lee's case and has not been true at CAFC for years.
Bowyer decides in what position he wants signings though.
Were the players he wanted were available at a price we could afford given the limitations of our wage bill? We are a middling League One club. We can't just snap our fingers and players we want are elated to come here. If ManU can't get the players it always wants.... how do we? Also, it's the winter window, where few great deals are ever made. Good players don't need to be sold in the winter break, which I think limited our options.
I just watched a replay of the first goal, and I’m not so sure it’s that clear cut. The ball looked like it was going over Deji’s head, and he only just got a touch on it. Not sure it was like an ordinary misdirected header, which *would* have been totally his fault. Of course it would have helped if he’d been a couple of inches taller.
Just an observation that’s probably been mentioned, however, it’s really painful watching us play this tippy tappy, sideways and backwards football for 20-30 passes, then we finally play it forward, lose possession and within two passes we are wide open or seeing a shot at our goal. Why are we unable to do this to the opposition?.This is happening with alarming regularity and hasn’t been addressed. This is just one example of things that are going wrong. Why do we notice it ? But bowyer appears not too!. I’m still so frustrated by what we are being served up at the moment!.😤
I just watched a replay of the first goal, and I’m not so sure it’s that clear cut. The ball looked like it was going over Deji’s head, and he only just got a touch on it. Not sure it was like an ordinary misdirected header, which *would* have been totally his fault. Of course it would have helped if he’d been a couple of inches taller.
Just watched it again - how come Amos isn’t saving that or at least getting some part of his body in the way?
Thing that bothers me EVERY week but haven't mentioned it is that we never have a man on the edge of the box, attacking or defending..
Amount of the times the ball drops at edge of box after a corner and the oppo clear and vice versa the oop have a clear shot.
We had pulled every single player into the box yesterday, I noticed it too over several games. Watching on a screen is harder to get a feel of who is occupying what space but its a good point you make. So many second balls drop in that area asking to be attacked
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
Oh do **** off. "People" are just looking at the basic facts, rather than pretending they know more than the professionals. The facts are
* Famewo is probably the most accomplished central defender in this League, by which I mean that he makes good decisions consistently and does not make mistakes very often. That is why he is highly rated at Norwich, top of the league above, while Oshilaja is with us.
* Inniss is a formidable presence in the air, and imposes himself on strikers. Nobody was quite sure how consistent he would be, but he and Famewo seem to complement each other well. He has benefitted from playing alongside Famewo. I'd be less confident with Pearce or Oshilaja alongside him, but it would be better than the current options.
* We are shipping 2 goals a game. With those two available we went six games without conceding a goal.
It is obvious that neither Pearce nor Oshilaja can deliver sufficiently consistently for 95 minutes in most games. Famewo and Inniss are as good as if not better than nearly all centre backs I've seen this season in this league. (Actually the young Gills lad was very good, but he is already being chased by Champ clubs, and even West Ham, according to Terry and Greg).
That's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
Oh do **** off. "People" are just looking at the basic facts, rather than pretending they know more than the professionals. The facts are
* We are shipping 2 goals a game. With those two available we went six games without conceding a goal.
BuT tHeY'rE aLl WoRlDiEs
There's three at the back that are a problem. The centre backs and goalkeeper all need to sort out their ability to deal with range chances. (Defenders close quicker and GK not be on his heels) Also there appears to be a trust issue between Amos and the current defence. He needs to be able to trust the pairing in front of him to be able to perform himself. He's second guessing what he should do, a bit too often.
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
It’s not even about them as players. They are our first choice CBs and missing such a crucial position most of the season has affected the whole team.
Deji wasnt fit for a time and neither was Pearce, hence all the tinkering.
A lot on here just seem a team sheet and think “well that’s stupid” without using a brain cell to understand why the team is put out like that.
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
It’s not even about them as players. They are our first choice CBs and missing such a crucial position most of the season has affected the whole team.
Deji wasnt fit for a time and neither was Pearce, hence all the tinkering.
A lot on here just seem a team sheet and think “well that’s stupid” without using a brain cell to understand why the team is put out like that.
like when Millar was up top when we had strikers on the bench? Or are you referring to when Smyth was playing RWB? Ah you must have meant when Deji was on the bench and Pratley started at CB.
Very unlucky. Fairly sure that was Ogilvie's goal of his career so far. The other two were not typical League One fare either. We did capitalise on a defensive error for once. Harsh sending off.
We were by far the better side, when we don't get punished for errors, they score worldies.
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
Oh do **** off. "People" are just looking at the basic facts, rather than pretending they know more than the professionals. The facts are
* Famewo is probably the most accomplished central defender in this League, by which I mean that he makes good decisions consistently and does not make mistakes very often. That is why he is highly rated at Norwich, top of the league above, while Oshilaja is with us.
* Inniss is a formidable presence in the air, and imposes himself on strikers. Nobody was quite sure how consistent he would be, but he and Famewo seem to complement each other well. He has benefitted from playing alongside Famewo. I'd be less confident with Pearce or Oshilaja alongside him, but it would be better than the current options.
* We are shipping 2 goals a game. With those two available we went six games without conceding a goal.
It is obvious that neither Pearce nor Oshilaja can deliver sufficiently consistently for 95 minutes in most games. Famewo and Inniss are as good as if not better than nearly all centre backs I've seen this season in this league. (Actually the young Gills lad was very good, but he is already being chased by Champ clubs, and even West Ham, according to Terry and Greg).
That's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less.
So rattled when he's literally just stated facts. Best CBs in the league? How can anyone say that when we've only seen them for a handful of games??
I genuinely can't recall two injured players being rated as highly as Inniss (a bloke who has spent his career on loan at about 10 clubs), and Famewo.
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I genuinely can't remember so many people hanging their hat on 2 players that have played 4 games together and never managed more than 10 and 22 games in season before.
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
It’s not even about them as players. They are our first choice CBs and missing such a crucial position most of the season has affected the whole team.
Deji wasnt fit for a time and neither was Pearce, hence all the tinkering.
A lot on here just seem a team sheet and think “well that’s stupid” without using a brain cell to understand why the team is put out like that.
like when Millar was up top when we had strikers on the bench? Or are you referring to when Smyth was playing RWB? Ah you must have meant when Deji was on the bench and Pratley started at CB.
You mean the strikers that everyone on here said weren’t good enough?
Deji who was playing sort of like he played this weekend.. unconvincing and coming back from an injury.
I have no excuses for Smyth... you see what I did there? Admitted a fault.
Comments
definite:
millar
chucks
stiockley
famewo
possibly:
amos
smith
winger / striker from swindon
innis
schwartz
shinnie
maarsen
put out on loan:
morgan
get shot of if possible / if not already out of contract:
gunter
pearce
oshalaja
purrington
jfc
pratley
watson
washington
gilbey
that's 4 players out of our entire squad that i think are nailed on to be good enough to win promotion so yes, LB is not completely wrong in what he is saying about overachieving but doesn't mean he isn't making a poot fist of things with what he has got coz i doubt any squad in league 1 has more and if you add the 7 possibles, you have a pretty decent nucleas to at least get in the play offs
When these two come back, I'm expecting to see Van Dijk / Vidic level performances from these two the way some of the comments about their impact has been.
I was fuming at this game management from a senior pro
LoOk At LiVeRpOoL.....
Yeah VVD and Gomez won the premier league and the Champions league. Famewo and Innis kept a clean sheet at Northampton.
Amount of the times the ball drops at edge of box after a corner and the oppo clear and vice versa the oop have a clear shot.
Was it a worse shot than say the first Gillingham one, or better keeping?
* Famewo is probably the most accomplished central defender in this League, by which I mean that he makes good decisions consistently and does not make mistakes very often. That is why he is highly rated at Norwich, top of the league above, while Oshilaja is with us.
* Inniss is a formidable presence in the air, and imposes himself on strikers. Nobody was quite sure how consistent he would be, but he and Famewo seem to complement each other well. He has benefitted from playing alongside Famewo. I'd be less confident with Pearce or Oshilaja alongside him, but it would be better than the current options.
* We are shipping 2 goals a game. With those two available we went six games without conceding a goal.
It is obvious that neither Pearce nor Oshilaja can deliver sufficiently consistently for 95 minutes in most games. Famewo and Inniss are as good as if not better than nearly all centre backs I've seen this season in this league. (Actually the young Gills lad was very good, but he is already being chased by Champ clubs, and even West Ham, according to Terry and Greg).
That's all there is to it. Nothing more, nothing less.
There's three at the back that are a problem. The centre backs and goalkeeper all need to sort out their ability to deal with range chances. (Defenders close quicker and GK not be on his heels) Also there appears to be a trust issue between Amos and the current defence. He needs to be able to trust the pairing in front of him to be able to perform himself. He's second guessing what he should do, a bit too often.
Deji wasnt fit for a time and neither was Pearce, hence all the tinkering.
A lot on here just seem a team sheet and think “well that’s stupid” without using a brain cell to understand why the team is put out like that.
Very unlucky. Fairly sure that was Ogilvie's goal of his career so far. The other two were not typical League One fare either. We did capitalise on a defensive error for once. Harsh sending off.
We were by far the better side, when we don't get punished for errors, they score worldies.
Deji who was playing sort of like he played this weekend.. unconvincing and coming back from an injury.
I have no excuses for Smyth... you see what I did there? Admitted a fault.
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