Honestly think it would be better for Jackson’s development (if he is to stay a no.2) to stay here and learn under a different manager and how they work than to go and continue to be an assistant to the same one and not learn anything new. Money obviously talks though.
Can't be bothered to read the whole thread but can I just say thank the fucking lord the Cowleys are going to Porstmouth
Always wondered about "The Cowleys", are they really a duo in everything they do, ain't they allowed out on their own or something, it seems, you want Danny you have to have his brother.
To me, to you... The Chuckle Brothers of Football.
I will be happy with any manager that never plays Pratley/Watson in the same side ever again. JJ is 1-0 up on that front, but seriously, progressive, attacking football with more emphasis on younger players a must. Other than tickets, merch etc, I am not blowing any of my hard earned money away, so am patiently waiting to see who the man with the clear ambition, objectives and significant investment wants & when named they will have my full support. If objectives are not realised, we know what happens next and so the next will get that same support... I really do think we are now on a positive journey and suspect we will be adequately armed to realise our goals whoever is in charge.
I am no more an expert of Adkins’ managerial capabilities, as I am JJ’s. All I want is to follow our great club, see some decent football and have a return to those wonderful memories of the Premiership years, whether Jensen’s chip at Arsenal or Lisbie’s Liverpool hat trick. No sentiment here unfortunately but hope JJ remains part of the set up if that is what he wants.
If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
This is kinda mad.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in??? Thats the upside down side mate
Honest question. What do you know about Nigel Adkins and have you done any research about his previous experience?
If so why do you think he is washed up and that a club legend, who has been involved in 2 relegations, once as a captain and once as an assistant manager, and has no direct managerial experience will be a better option.
Just for reference my preference would be to give Jackson the job until the end of the season and see what he can do. But am completely miffed as to why posters are so quick to write of Adkins but then want to give the job to Jackson.
Why did you cut out JJ’s two promotion??? Did you see how all the players went to JJ after Bauer scored the winner at Wembley??? No one went to Bowyer. Very poor comment by you
My Saints supporting mate with this to say about Adkins when I asked:
'Good mate. Ioved him. Was sad when he left. Nice and attacking.'
And to add to this, my Reading supporting mate in the same group said:
'It be lots of positive talk and sound bites. Got a bit ridiculed at reading about it wen things were not going so well.
Agree he will want a team playing good passing football'
Fills me with a little more confidence if it is him that we will play some decent football at least.
What do your Scunthorpe, Hull and Sheff U supporting mates say?
I'd imagine Scunthorpe fans would be happy as he got them promoted twice...
Hull - "Adkins’ salvage operation took time, with only one win coming in his opening 10 league games, but a run of six victories from the next 12, including the demolition of QPR and Burton, brought survival at a canter. “Michael Dawson said to me at the end of the season ‘Gaffer, we were relegated but you’ve managed to change it around.’ That was because we had everyone together as one,” said Adkins.
Taken from an interesting article here: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-adkins-hull-city-resign-4040649.amp
Sounds like their owners were almost as useless as ESI!!
Sheff U - Sounds like they were in the hunt for the playoffs until a couple of weeks before the end of the season where they lost to Coventry and then mathematically couldn't make the playoffs. Last game of the season got beat and then sounds like a Karanka/Bowyer Brum situation - "in the morning they had sacked Nigel Adkins. By dinner time Chris Wilder was the new man in charge."
If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
This is kinda mad.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in??? Thats the upside down side mate
Honest question. What do you know about Nigel Adkins and have you done any research about his previous experience?
If so why do you think he is washed up and that a club legend, who has been involved in 2 relegations, once as a captain and once as an assistant manager, and has no direct managerial experience will be a better option.
Just for reference my preference would be to give Jackson the job until the end of the season and see what he can do. But am completely miffed as to why posters are so quick to write of Adkins but then want to give the job to Jackson.
Why did you cut out JJ’s two promotion??? Did you see how all the players went to JJ after Bauer scored the winner at Wembley??? No one went to Bowyer. Very poor comment by you
Im just trying to have an honest debate with you so I would appreciate instead of reverting to calling my comment poor, which I don't think it was, you answer my questions. Remember this is coming from someone who wants Jackson to be given a chance to the end of the season.
Why do you think Adkins is washed up? Have you done any research into his career. His last managerial role was with Hull less than 2 years ago - do you know how he was regarded by fans there?
Why do you think Jackson would do a better choice than him?
Why is Nigel Adkins never mentioned these days? Steered Scunny to promotion, then Southampton from League One to the Prem. He's a 'thinker' - wears serious spectacles - which means he might not suit us...
As said I am not remotely excited for Adkins but if that who it is he gets my support in the same way every other manager has.
Can you explain why please?
Nothing about what he had done since Southampton makes me think he is anything other than a average manager a bit like a lower league Steve Bruce safe and steady.
I could be miles of and if he joins he changes my opinion and like I said he would have my backing from the start but personally would not be my choice not even in the top 10.
AFKA put a good post up earlier which properly sums it up perfectly in that maybe I want to much and given time and thought I might warm to it.
Just because JJ Has been around for while doesn’t entitle him to a go at the managers job, remember he has been part of a struggling side. Even though bowyer has had the final say we would assume,JJ wanting to be a no.1 should of been able to have an influence on bowyers decisions. If that didn’t happen would it be fair to question whether he would be strong enough as a manager. ( I know, none of really know what’s been going on).I think we need something new and by all means keep jacko in as an assistant for now.I along with all Charlton fans think JJ is a great bloke and was a cracking player for us, I was so chuffed for him last night particularly when he got choked up in the post match interview. Which is why more so than bowyer I wouldn’t want it to go tits up for him. Maybe sit tight for now Jacko and be around if it doesn’t work out for the new manager.
If Jacko goes and we end up with Adkins I'll be gutted.
This is kinda mad.
Stick the two managerial CVs up side by side. On what planet is Jackson seen as the smart choice?
Club legend leaving or some washed up old bloke coming in??? Thats the upside down side mate
Honest question. What do you know about Nigel Adkins and have you done any research about his previous experience?
If so why do you think he is washed up and that a club legend, who has been involved in 2 relegations, once as a captain and once as an assistant manager, and has no direct managerial experience will be a better option.
Just for reference my preference would be to give Jackson the job until the end of the season and see what he can do. But am completely miffed as to why posters are so quick to write of Adkins but then want to give the job to Jackson.
Why did you cut out JJ’s two promotion??? Did you see how all the players went to JJ after Bauer scored the winner at Wembley??? No one went to Bowyer. Very poor comment by you
Im just trying to have an honest debate with you so I would appreciate instead of reverting to calling my comment poor, which I don't think it was, you answer my questions. Remember this is coming from someone who wants Jackson to be given a chance to the end of the season.
Why do you think Adkins is washed up? Have you done any research into his career. His last managerial role was with Hull less than 2 years ago - do you know how he was regarded by fans there?
Why do you think Jackson would do a better choice than him?
2 years ago is a long time in football as was his success at Soton maybe 10 years ago.
Powell and Curbs had no track record but had the support of us fans • one of our own” So maybe JJ doesn’t know it all ? Maybe he doesn’t want it ? But boy he’s been with us through the bad times as you say and the good times as I remember and as he said last night it’s a rollercoaster.
Personally I would give him a chance to the end of the season and let’s leave the out of work so called managers in their garden to then! Just a thought!
Adkins looks like he could be Wallace's twin brother (of Wallace & Grommit). Its being done very quickly, probably been in the works in the background.
Contrary to the vast majority of comments I've seen on here today, I think Adkins would be a great appointment for where we're at currently. With Thomas' backing and his attacking style, I really think we could be a far better side than we have been for years. He's a better manager than Bow, no doubt in my mind about that.
Not in the know in anyway but I also have a hunch TS is going to surprise us all. He is a bit of a maverick with a kind of calculating crazy side. I'm excited at the moment to see what he is going to pull off. Unless ofcourse it has all happened very quickly and he has asked Ged to sort it for him ( which I doubt ) roll on friday I cant wait
Contrary to the vast majority of comments I've seen on here today, I think Adkins would be a great appointment for where we're at currently. With Thomas' backing and his attacking style, I really think we could be a far better side than we have been for years. He's a better manager than Bow, no doubt in my mind about that.
I’m with you @ButtleJR. I don’t get all this negativity towards Adkins.
I’d be fine with him as the man to get us out of this division and back into being an established Championship side. After that we’d need someone else to fulfill TS European dream.
Please let the gods of footy NOT give us Nigel fecking Adkins!
This would be a massive step backwards.
Kenny Jacket or the Cowleys, even Pulis but not Adkins. If he got the job over JJ you wouldn't blame him for not hanging around.
Pullis.....do me a favour, the bloke is anti football.
More importantly he's a busted flush. I'd say the same about Jackett. However I think you'll regret not going for the Cowleys.
I'm regretting Bowyer not leaving a month earlier, so that we could have appointed Paul Cook
This. If we do happen to sign an underwhelming manager I'm blaming the "Bowyer in" brigade as Cook had been sitting around for months pleading for a job.
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The Chuckle Brothers of Football.
I am no more an expert of Adkins’ managerial capabilities, as I am JJ’s. All I want is to follow our great club, see some decent football and have a return to those wonderful memories of the Premiership years, whether Jensen’s chip at Arsenal or Lisbie’s Liverpool hat trick. No sentiment here unfortunately but hope JJ remains part of the set up if that is what he wants.
Did you see how all the players went to JJ after Bauer scored the winner at Wembley??? No one went to Bowyer.
Very poor comment by you
Hull - "Adkins’ salvage operation took time, with only one win coming in his opening 10 league games, but a run of six victories from the next 12, including the demolition of QPR and Burton, brought survival at a canter.
“Michael Dawson said to me at the end of the season ‘Gaffer, we were relegated but you’ve managed to change it around.’ That was because we had everyone together as one,” said Adkins.
Taken from an interesting article here: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/nigel-adkins-hull-city-resign-4040649.amp
Sounds like their owners were almost as useless as ESI!!
Sheff U - Sounds like they were in the hunt for the playoffs until a couple of weeks before the end of the season where they lost to Coventry and then mathematically couldn't make the playoffs. Last game of the season got beat and then sounds like a Karanka/Bowyer Brum situation - " in the morning they had sacked Nigel Adkins. By dinner time Chris Wilder was the new man in charge."
It can be tough getting feedback on your sexual performance.
Why do you think Adkins is washed up? Have you done any research into his career. His last managerial role was with Hull less than 2 years ago - do you know how he was regarded by fans there?
Why do you think Jackson would do a better choice than him?
So maybe JJ doesn’t know it all ? Maybe he doesn’t want it ? But boy he’s been with us through the bad times as you say and the good times as I remember and as he said last night it’s a rollercoaster.
I’d be fine with him as the man to get us out of this division and back into being an established Championship side. After that we’d need someone else to fulfill TS European dream.