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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Said it before that I thought the rebuild would need to take a few windows. Build a real quality first eleven and decent alternatives. Much prefer signing two really good players each window and getting there over three windows. Fill in gaps with loans until the quality is reached. 
    But it cost a bloody fortune just to play our games every season in league 1.

    Another "plan" that is completely invalid in league 1.

    If we sign no more players we will probably lose nearer 10 than 5 million this season and rinse and repeat next season.  It costs more to not spend money!   If Roland had spent an extra 5 or so million in the slade season it would have saved him 15 in the long run. 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    I don’t see Crewe selling Dale for £500k even if he has just the year left on contract. They’ll look to get more than that for him if they are even willing to sell or he wants to leave. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
  • Cannot believe the number of unhappy people on here. We are in my opinion in a much better position than we have been for years. A engaged and enthusiastic owner who I don’t think anyone can argue against is laying solid foundations for the club to improve

    A experienced and successful manager with a good back room staff.

     I think we have made excellent acquisitions for this level so far and every confidence there will be more before the window shuts


    Good academy players coming through who may not be ready to play a significant part in the first team yet but the future looks bright


    And yet after a perfectly acceptable first league game and I agree a poor cup performance people are looking at relegation odds having a pop at the owner and manager writing off the new signings and the academy players and generally going into meltdown 

     I am not saying we will blow through this league but am confident we will be in the promotion picture at the end of the season 

    come on people less negatively on here COYR 
    You don't need to, our owner himself said it.

    Good post though, i agree with everything you've said.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited August 2021
    doronron said:
    cafc999 said:
    Macronate said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all! 

    Care free signings are as dangerous as too few. 

    Players sold:
    Joe Gomez £4.4m

    £4.4m, Jesus wept.
    I heard it was £3.5m
    I was told 2.9 

    Liverpool announced £3.5 million, Cafc said undisclosed but there were add-on's which have pushed the figure higher. For Cafc sake a fit Joe deciding he fancies living and playing in Paris and giving the ball to the  star players may be beneficial for our money stream !

    The reason given for the low figure was if it was too high it wouldn't have been signed by Joe. Multi sources reported this.

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033
    Weren't clubs being quoted £1m for just Dale earlier in the window? Maybe we've finally got to that stage of the window where it's take what's there 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    doronron said:
    cafc999 said:
    Macronate said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Just because Golfie is bigging up Roland... Here's his first three years ins and outs for the first team squad - because I got bored. It seems having loads of players doesn't guarantee success at all! 

    Care free signings are as dangerous as too few. 

    Players sold:
    Joe Gomez £4.4m

    £4.4m, Jesus wept.
    I heard it was £3.5m
    I was told 2.9 

    Liverpool announced £3.5 million, Cafc said undisclosed but there were add-on's which have pushed the figure higher. For Cafc sake a fit Joe deciding he fancies living and playing in Paris and giving the ball to the  star players may be beneficial for our money stream !

    The reason given for the low figure was if it was too high it wouldn't have been signed by Joe. Multi sources reported this.

    A better CEO may have negotiated that better than Katrien did though.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    Exactly. Staff turnover in the first window will seem high as we get rid of the shite and bring in good talent on more sensible contracts. Then it should, go down with each window and level off at a normal rate for a stable football club.
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Weren't clubs being quoted £1m for just Dale earlier in the window? Maybe we've finally got to that stage of the window where it's take what's there 
    It's been mentioned a few times that many clubs are struggling because of covid. Naturally earlier in the window if a player is worth (for example) 700k, the selling club will stretch it and ask for 1m. Buying club say no chance. Then the closer we get to the deadline the selling club are now faced with needing to sell to potentially have enough money to get through the season.

    Buying club know this and come back with 500k. Selling club has no other option but to do a cut price deal in the next 2 weeks or risk not being able to afford to get through the next few months.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited August 2021
    MarcusH26 said:
    Weren't clubs being quoted £1m for just Dale earlier in the window? Maybe we've finally got to that stage of the window where it's take what's there 
    It's been mentioned a few times that many clubs are struggling because of covid. Naturally earlier in the window if a player is worth (for example) 700k, the selling club will stretch it and ask for 1m. Buying club say no chance. Then the closer we get to the deadline the selling club are now faced with needing to sell to potentially have enough money to get through the season.

    Buying club know this and come back with 500k. Selling club has no other option but to do a cut price deal in the next 2 weeks or risk not being able to afford to get through the next few months.
    And at the end of deadline day TS standing with our 7 last minute wonder signings turns around and says “what were you worried about?”.


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    thenewbie said:
    Scoham said:
    Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
    Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
    In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.

    Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
    I wonder what the rules are in that regard? Like, if a deal is agreed and signed between all the relevant parties (both clubs and the player) but for whatever reason there is a hold up on the actual physical move.

    Like, what in other businesses would be compassionate leave or whatever, could we do the deal now but he doesn't necessarily join us in person yet.
    then it's a done deal and he's our player and then we can allow him whatever length of compassionate leave we like
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Scoham said:
    bobmunro said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Here's how ( I think) Transfers may be working. 

    1.
    Adkins suggests the kind of players he needs, gives the requirements of what they MUST have and probably even names some that do the job of such players. 
    2.
    Gallen goes out, taps up contacts and uses his relationships to find players that match Adkins requirements - Comes back to Adkins to check suitability
    3.
    When NA & SG are happy I'd hope it was straight to Sandgaard, but I fear this is where Roddy steps in. I don't get what he does, but he basically has to also ratify the signing before it can get to Sandgaard. Maybe he's acting as some sort of buffer to ensure we don't put forward signings over a certain price that don't add enough resale value etc?
    4.
    When it gets to Sandgaard I would assume the case is put forward on what the player brings, what their resale potential might be, how much we might need to spend to get them and whether they may or may not be able to make the step up. 

    Alternative
    The other thing that may occur is you roll up the meetings where Gallen comes back to a 4-way between Adkins, Gallen, Roddy & Sandgaard and they thrash it out whilst chugging Monster's and listening to rap metal. 
    In my experience, this is how it should work.

    1. Owner (TS) sets the budget (transfer fee and wages)
    2. Manager (NA) tells head of recruitment (SG) who/what he wants.
    3. Head of recruitment draws up a shortlist
    4. Manager reviews shortlist and selects those he wants to pursue.
    5. Head of recruitment asks current club for permission to talk to player (yes, I know!!).
    6. If player is interested the CEO (we don't have one but it could be Roddy in this instance) negotiates with player/club/agent within the confines of the budgets set in 1) above.
    7. If agreement (within budget) is reached then player signs).
    8. If agreement cannot be reached but manager wants to pursue further then CEO discusses budget with owner. If it can be increased then repeat 6) and 7).
    9. If no agreement reached within an acceptable budget then all parties move on.   

    For us point 6 may be the issue.
    Unless things have changed Gallen does the negotiating?
    Gallen always done and still is the person who talks to players and agents 
    So he is still talking to the players that you said had signed for us 3 weeks, 2 weeks and 1 week ago?
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    thenewbie said:
    Scoham said:
    Think Kirk is still pretty much done. Obviously the kid needs time to grieve.
    Do you think there was no truth in him being linked to Sheff Utd?
    In my opinion I don’t think Sheffield united were ever in for him. I think the delay was and is solely down to the awful fact his father has passed away.

    Something like that could easily make him think he would rather stay with his family and move on next year instead, however the noises I’m hearing are suggesting he will still press on with the deal. Understandably he will want to take time to grieve and support his family before making that decision.
    I wonder what the rules are in that regard? Like, if a deal is agreed and signed between all the relevant parties (both clubs and the player) but for whatever reason there is a hold up on the actual physical move.

    Like, what in other businesses would be compassionate leave or whatever, could we do the deal now but he doesn't necessarily join us in person yet.
    then it's a done deal and he's our player and then we can allow him whatever length of compassionate leave we like
    That is what I thought but I wasn't sure. Obviously as he's dealing with a lot right now even if he does end up signing here I'd like to think we'd give him time to be ready to actually play rather than throw him in the deep end - but wasn't sure about the legalities of contracts etc.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
    Which club ? Certainly not ours 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
    Piece Paper On Table Images Stock Photos amp Vectors  Shutterstock
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    shine166 said:
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
    Which club ? Certainly not ours 
    think it was in the SLP or somewhere recently saying we had made bids so I'd imagine seeing as no-one has signed then those bids are still on the table.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    We don't have any young talent worth much?
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  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
    Why do you believe everything everyone tells you, as everything you have written on here is pure rubbish your best off just keeping quite !!
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    edited August 2021
    The deals are on the table .. as the club confirmed 
    You chat a load of bollocks mate
  • Scoham said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Weren't clubs being quoted £1m for just Dale earlier in the window? Maybe we've finally got to that stage of the window where it's take what's there 
    It's been mentioned a few times that many clubs are struggling because of covid. Naturally earlier in the window if a player is worth (for example) 700k, the selling club will stretch it and ask for 1m. Buying club say no chance. Then the closer we get to the deadline the selling club are now faced with needing to sell to potentially have enough money to get through the season.

    Buying club know this and come back with 500k. Selling club has no other option but to do a cut price deal in the next 2 weeks or risk not being able to afford to get through the next few months.
    And at the end of deadline day TS standing with our 7 last minute wonder signings turns around and says “what were you worried about?”.


    As he proudly shows off a group photo of new signings with him standing alongside Bogle, Frank Nouble, David Davis, Matt Smith (any of them), Darren Purse and Steve Portway.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    Dazzler21 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?

    Couldn't remember date of take over, just went from end of August tbh.
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 

    Just a thought but maybe Baah has always fancied living in Doncaster....
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    cs1986 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    We don't have any young talent worth much?
    How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night.  And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Dazzler21 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?

    Couldn't remember date of take over, just went from end of August tbh.
    No, they were sold in Sandgaard era
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    edited August 2021
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?

    Couldn't remember date of take over, just went from end of August tbh.
    No, they were sold in Sandgaard era
    Lockyer left on a free before TS arrived. I believe Phillips was also sold before he got here. Bonne was sold by TS after SG and LB told him it was too good of an offer to turn down.

    Edit: Phillips was shortly after he got here.
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    cs1986 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    We don't have any young talent worth much?
    How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night.  And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.
    Right now we have Deji who appears a talent. Of course our academy is excellent but right now none of them are worth a fiver. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the line we have another excellent batch that could be sold either well or on the cheap. Only then could you see of TS is similar.
  • J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 
    He ripped a forward playing as a wing back apart. He was pretty quiet for the other 1.5 games when being marked by a proper full back. 
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