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  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 
    He ripped a forward playing as a wing back apart. He was pretty quiet for the other 1.5 games when being marked by a proper full back. 

    He made 2 whole accurate crosses all season last year as well. Just what we need.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.

    You could argue its heading in the same direction based on that, but, really it's a silly argument. 

    Not only has Roland had far more windows to operate in there wasn't the COVID factor, and even if you disregard that, without knowing what the undisclosed fees are, you just can't compare.

    If anything it just shows typical transfer activity. I'm sure if you posted any other club to a similar stature to ours it'll read the same. Players leaving on frees, decent talent sold and a whole bunch of undisclosed.

    🤷🏻‍♂️
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Dazzler21 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Lockyer, Phillips & Bonne were gone prior to Sandgaard completing his purchase weren't they?
    Only Lockyer, as at that stage we were in a one out, one in situation, and used the squad space to bring in Levitt  :# It's curious that under ESI we never sold anyone, despite being broke all summer.

    Under Thomas we brought in a few decent fees, for Phillips, Bonne, Doughty plus the Karlan sell on fee which would have helped to offset the losses
  • Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    edited August 2021
    cs1986 said:
    cs1986 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    We don't have any young talent worth much?
    How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night.  And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.
    Right now we have Deji who appears a talent. Of course our academy is excellent but right now none of them are worth a fiver. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the line we have another excellent batch that could be sold either well or on the cheap. Only then could you see of TS is similar.
    The talent we have is within the U18s from last season, the likes of Deji, Henry, Beadle etc, rather than further up the age group
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Baah Signing for Donny
    Really can’t understand why we wouldn’t be in for him. Proven at this level and in a position we need options for. 
    Slow again....
    We’re we slow to react on Baah?  Or just saw he scored 3 in 21. Twice against us and largely fuck all else.  
    We are looking for players to get us out of the division as opposed to a punt on someone who might come good
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    Too short for a CB IMO.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 
    Ripped Paul Smyth apart for 45 minutes.  Did he do much else last season 
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    He has been injured. Just making a comeback 
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!
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  • Baah Signing for Donny
    Baah humbug!
  • Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    I'd have Lockyer back in a flash, and he'd be too good for this league definitely. That said, I don't think he'd step down to L1 again, it'd be big wages for us too and currently Innis + Famewo are our main pairing CBs, I don't think we'd want to spunk big wages on Lockyer as a back-up CB (I know Inniss will inevitably get injured)
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    How are we not picking up players like Baah? He’s from the area, surely we’d be interested. Missing out on so many good players, somethings not right! 
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    cs1986 said:
    cs1986 said:
    Rothko said:
    Quiet enjoying the revisionism of the RD era
    Grass was always greener on the other side springs to mind. 
    In retrospect players like Yoni Buyons, JBG, Vetokeke, Teixeira, Bulot & Watt were a damn sight better than Clare & Dobson. 
    Okay so in the interest of balance.  

    Now give us a list of key players that Roland sold off for nothing/lower than market value Vs what TS has sold??


    Roland outs

    Button undisc
    Smith undisc
    Stephens undisc
    Alnwick free
    Yann undisc
    Hughes free
    Cook free
    Court free
    evina free
    Gower free
    Holland's free
    Hamer free
    Green free
    Pritchard free
    Devite free
    Poyet compo
    Wood free
    Morrison free
    Ben haim free
    Lepoint undisc
    Gomez 3.5 million
    Church free
    Eagles released 
    Etheridge free
    Onyewu released
    Bikey cancelled 
    Wilson released
    Wiggins undisc
    Nego free
    Vaz te free
    Moussa free
    Parzyszeck free
    Reza released 
    Motta released
    Piggott released
    Tucudean released 
    Dimitovic free
    Cousins undisc
    Gudmundsson undisc 
    Pope undisc
    Henderson free
    Harriot undisc
    Bergdich released
    Diarra released 
    Lookman - 11 million
    Foley released
    Fox undisc
    Ba released 
    Chicksen released 
    Johnson released 
    Texiera undisc
    Ceballos undisc
    Watt undisc
    Novak undisc
    Holmes undisc
    Crofts released 
    Konsa undisc 
    Lennon undisc
    Magennis undisc
    Kashi released
    Grant undisc
    Clarke free
    Ajose released 
    Aribo compo
    Bauer free
    Fosu free
    Marshall free
    Reeves free
    Parker free
    Ventokelle free
    Dijksteel undisc


    Sandgaard outs

    Lockyer free
    Bonne undisc (2mil)
    Phillips undisc 
    Lapslie undisc 
    Doughty undisc 
    Bogle undisc 
    Williams undisc 
    Amos free
    Aneke free
    Madison released 
    Deji released 
    Oztumer released 
    Pratley released 
    Shinnie released 


    For curiosities sake 
    Thank you CL P.

    So those who are going to make silly comparisons between Roland’s 6 years of transfers and TS’s 11 months, at least do it properly rather than half the story that you feel suits your narrative. 

    Roland was an absolute shambles.
    But Sandgaard in terms of players sold/released after 1 year is on par to match Roland's numbers in 6. 
    But TS hasn’t happened yet, unless you’ve evidence to suggest he’s secretly planning on selling every piece of young talent we have for a quick buck to cover losses way under market value?
    We don't have any young talent worth much?
    How do you know, Doughty was on loan at Bromley till he come back due to injuries and his life changed almost over night.  And even if we haven’t currently got a Gomez/Lookman/Doughty we know full well we’ll have one soon, our academy is very good.
    Right now we have Deji who appears a talent. Of course our academy is excellent but right now none of them are worth a fiver. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the line we have another excellent batch that could be sold either well or on the cheap. Only then could you see of TS is similar.
    The talent we have is within the U18s from last season, the likes of Deji, Henry, Beadle etc, rather than further up the age group
    Yeah completely agree. Aaron Henry looks a talent -  2 or 3 years away? Or am i being harsh?
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 
    Where is this? I couldn’t find it on Twitter.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    cs1986 said:
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!
    Amongst our 7 or so players we need another RCB option - and he would be a good one.

    Other than a LB - the other 5 absolutely fit into holes further up the pitch.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    J BLOCK said:
    Baah to Donny annoys me. Ripped us apart last season, plays in a position we desperately need. 
    But done nothing against us up there .. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Says a lot about Baah that he's gone from being off to City to ending up in Doncaster
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    cs1986 said:
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    I liked Lockyer a lot but defence definitely ain't a problem right now. Attackers!!!
    If we don’t sign cover for Innis plus a left back we’ll be in bother at some point this season. 
  • If our strategy really is to bide our time & wait for player demands to reduce as they get more desperate to sign a deal as the transfer deadline draws closer, it's a dangerous strategy.

    We could be very busy on transfer deadline week.  Alternatively, it could all go tits up & we could be left desperately short of numbers.  

    Time will tell!!
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,669
    Jac_52 said:
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    Too short for a CB IMO.
    A couple of inches taller than Barker who some on here fancy as a CB
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
      Lockyer is not what we need.  Too short for a centre back, positionally weak (and not quick enough to make up for it) and his passing was woeful.  
    If a defender makes as many last ditch tackles as he did you have to question his positioning in the first place
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Jac_52 said:
    Braving another suggestion 😂
    What about going back in for Tom Lockyer? Doesn’t seem to be getting a look in Luton’s team anymore and think he will be a decent addition and he knows the club very well. 
    Too short for a CB IMO.
    A couple of inches taller than Barker who some on here fancy as a CB
    There’s a reason Barker is behind Elewere. He only played last season because u23s weren’t eligible because of the squad rules.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn 

    “ said:
    Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
    There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”
  • Stevie Nicks, cancels some gigs that is a rumour I have heard.

  • Yann897
    Yann897 Posts: 1,530
    sammy391 said:
    A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn 

    “ said:
    Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
    There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”
    If that has been said then they’d be a screenshot so I’ll take it with a pinch of salt until we see one.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,048



    Pretty much every thread on Charlton Life at the moment. Glad I took a break to catch up! 
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    sammy391 said:
    A post on the other forum, supposedly from TS on LinkedIn 

    “ said:
    Who wouldn't get annoyed by the same question all the time. Nigel knows I'm not changing my strategy one bit because of a few stupid journalists and social media.
    There is so much going on behind the scenes that just can not be taken public. No one knows how many people are working on recruiting day and night all summer until deadline day.”
    Who are the stupid journalists 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Shrewsbury looking at Cosgrove on loan
  • Baah the classic "played well against us so must be a world beater ignoring all evidence which may suggest otherwise" player.
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