Wasn't we having the discussion not long ago about British swimming? They had the threat of losing funding and turned it round. It is absolutely right rowing should be facing the same scrutiny given that BMX was crowdfunded and got a better overall result. I'd take a million from the rowing budget and share that with the two BMX riders. Giving successful athletes a reward is a decent alternative.
Wasn't we having the discussion not long ago about British swimming? They had the threat of losing funding and turned it round. It is absolutely right rowing should be facing the same scrutiny given that BMX was crowdfunded and got a better overall result. I'd take a million from the rowing budget and share that with the two BMX riders. Giving successful athletes a reward is a decent alternative.
This rowing result is a bit of a freak one, for multiple reasons. Should be back to winning ways in Paris.
Tempted to say my former sports council colleagues at UK Sport will keep Rowings funding high, and are going to have to give more money to British Cycling for the other disciplines. Someone will get cut, not sure who yet
Wasn't we having the discussion not long ago about British swimming? They had the threat of losing funding and turned it round. It is absolutely right rowing should be facing the same scrutiny given that BMX was crowdfunded and got a better overall result. I'd take a million from the rowing budget and share that with the two BMX riders. Giving successful athletes a reward is a decent alternative.
This rowing result is a bit of a freak one, for multiple reasons. Should be back to winning ways in Paris.
I agree, you have to give them a chance to sort it out but with a finite budget, you do have to put a cost on each Gold medal and Rowing didn't even give us one! They have to do the business in Paris or they will know what is going to happen. As I said, Swimming has turned it around. I'm not sure how they did. Was it getting rid of people at the top of having a longer term strategy and showing faith in it?
There's a finite pot. Other sports and individuals have shown that they deserve more funding, and the money has to come from somewhere
And politically (and this isn't how I think btw) it will be portrayed in some corners as "posh" public school rowers versus "street" BMX, Taekwondo etc
Wasn't we having the discussion not long ago about British swimming? They had the threat of losing funding and turned it round. It is absolutely right rowing should be facing the same scrutiny given that BMX was crowdfunded and got a better overall result. I'd take a million from the rowing budget and share that with the two BMX riders. Giving successful athletes a reward is a decent alternative.
This rowing result is a bit of a freak one, for multiple reasons. Should be back to winning ways in Paris.
I agree, you have to give them a chance to sort it out but with a finite budget, you do have to put a cost on each Gold medal and Rowing didn't even give us one! They have to do the business in Paris or they will know what is going to happen. As I said, Swimming has turned it around. I'm not sure how they did. Was it getting rid of people at the top of having a longer term strategy and showing faith in it?
Swimming does well from Sport England funding even in those rough years for talent, which helped keep the kids who are now winning medals in coaching etc.
But you can't invest millions and open the trap door. You have to give it a chance to work. What we don't know is whether those in charge are up to it or not. Those in charge of Swimming clearly were as this games has evidenced and Paris is going to be massive for UK rowing.
Sports already have the majority of there Paris funding in place, and rowing is down on what they had for Tokyo, but not hugely, they’ll need a decent Paris to get the LA funding in place
Finally glad to see FloJo's Olympic 100m record beaten. For some time it seems likely she was doped up and it's taken more than 30 years to beat a record that even as an American, I consider tainted.
It’s pretty brutal for a sport to have its UKS funding cut, was working with Archery GB when they lost their Olympics funding, and programmes got cut, and they scrabbled around to find the money. But they did and they’ve done alright.
Sometimes losing the money can help, frees you of the attention that UK Sport give you, which was pretty tough in the Liz Nichols days. The new CEO is ex of Hockey, so not sure what the approach is now
Tempted to say my former sports council colleagues at UK Sport will keep Rowings funding high, and are going to have to give more money to British Cycling for the other disciplines. Someone will get cut, not sure who yet
Is UK sport lottery money or is it government funded?
Tempted to say my former sports council colleagues at UK Sport will keep Rowings funding high, and are going to have to give more money to British Cycling for the other disciplines. Someone will get cut, not sure who yet
Is UK sport lottery money or is it government funded?
Majority of it is Lottery, a third of it is Government funding which is always open to be cut, and funds things sports to keep the governing body going
18 months ago she looked unbeatable and was at the top of her game. This extra year hasn't been kind to her.
It hasn't, but she's always been behind 3/4 runners in the 100.
Not true. She won Silver in 100M in Doha at World Championships in 2919.
True but some of the big guns were missing. Dina could have broken her personal best at the Olympics and still missed out on a medal.
Seeing the times of the Jamaicans in the 100m you are correct !
Also only just watched the final and love the competitive nature of the Caribbean girls. One year too late for Fraser-Pryce to dominate but I saw the semi final earlier and Thompson-Herah was so impressive. Good that Flo-jo's tainted record has gone.
France is about £80m a year for Elite, but they are throwing cash at the Paris 2024 problem, so probably north of £120m now, Germany is about half the French amount, it’s why their Olympic committee is desperate to bid for a games in the next 20 years
Finally glad to see FloJo's Olympic 100m record beaten. For some time it seems likely she was doped up and it's taken more than 30 years to beat a record that even as an American, I consider tainted.
I noticed the commentator saying a couple of times "only Florence Griffith Joyner has run faster", which seemed pretty much like saying it was the real world record, rather than the second fastest as the record books say. I definitely agree it's good to get rid of the asterisk from the Olympic record.
Aidan Walsh has pulled out of his fight tonight against Pat McCormack due to an ankle injury so that guarantees McCormack and team GB at least a silver
Not sure if it’s already been mentioned but I watched Gold Rush this week which is a 3 part documentary about the development of athletes between 96 and 2012. A lot of talk about how it was funded and how progression was judged, would recommend it.
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Look at the team pursuit world records posted earlier in the thread.
'Turning up when it really mattered' is basically the definition of cycling on.
And politically (and this isn't how I think btw) it will be portrayed in some corners as "posh" public school rowers versus "street" BMX, Taekwondo etc
Seeing the times of the Jamaicans in the 100m you are correct !
Also only just watched the final and love the competitive nature of the Caribbean girls. One year too late for Fraser-Pryce to dominate but I saw the semi final earlier and Thompson-Herah was so impressive.
Good that Flo-jo's tainted record has gone.
Do you know how our level of funding compares to similar nations, say France or Germany?