We have a relegation goalkeeper

LargeAddick

actually I don't think we do but I wanted to keep some continuity with thread titles !!

However, I have been very unimpressed with what I have seen so far. He is making far too many mistakes, he could have done better with a couple of goals against, nearly gave away a goal to Bannan, and his kicking is shocking. I wasn't a big Amos fan and thought MacGillvray was going to be a upgrade but so far it doesn't look to be the case. Not writing him off yet, it's only been four games, but he needs to improve fast.

J BLOCK

Shockingly bad. Can't see any positives from his game so far. 

Need a good number 2 ASAP. 

Talal

I think a lot of people didn't appreciate Amos' ability to come for crosses enough. He let a few goals in from distance so became 'not good enough' but the pressure he'd take off the defence was huge. MacGillivray does nothing so the defence (plus Stockley) have to do everything. I don't think it would be hard to guess who they'd favour playing in front of. 

Chris_from_Sidcup

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

LargeAddick

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

a) maybe the rest of them were shit b) we can only judge on his performances for Charlton

Chris_from_Sidcup

LargeAddick said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

a) maybe the rest of them were shit b) we can only judge on his performances for Charlton

They had the divisions 8th best defensive record.

Anyway..........point being he's making mistakes for us, but clearly wasn't for them. 

thenewbie

He's not started well but he was POTY last year at Portsmouth so there's a decent keeper in there somewhere.

He's not been done many favours by the players in front of him either - not to excuse his errors but he's not alone in that.

se9addick

LargeAddick said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

a) maybe the rest of them were shit b) we can only judge on his performances for Charlton

Maybe we should have a few more of them then before judging 

JoshrewCAFC

One thing I've been concerned with is how quiet he is for a keeper. Some of the balls our defence have let through would send most keepers berserk. But there seems to be very little communication between the back line and the keeper. And there seems to be poor communication between the two centre backs at the moment too.

Luckily that is something that can be improved over time. But it needs to happen quickly. 

guinnessaddick

https://twitter.com/jimleitrim2/status/1427769647013715974?s=21

She’s a keeper.

superclive98

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

What do your eyes tell you?
Mine tell me that he isn't very good. 

Karim_myBagheri

needs help from a pretty shaky and ill fitting defence in front.

However his positioning, aerial ability and distribution leave a lot to be desired at the moment but surely he can't be all that bad after a decent spell at Portsmouth?? (POTY i believe) either that or Portsmouth and MacGillivary have done a number on us and gave him POTY so as to drum up some interest from unsuspecting clubs. 

mendonca

Amos brought calm collecting crosses, in a way no other goalie does in L1. Let's hope MacGillvray improves soon as goalies usually do not need time to adjust to a new team in terms of shot stopping.

BR7_addick

Happy to agree with the midfield but not this.

You can have three shit games and call it bad form.  This guy has got pedigree and is not short of glowing references.  Agree however he’s had a shocker so far.

thenewbie

superclive98 said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

He was Portsmouth's POTY last season so he can't be that bad. 

What do your eyes tell you?
Mine tell me that he isn't very good. 

Mine tell me he's not playing very well right now but then no-one else is either so I am reluctant to say he's an awful keeper based on four games in a poorly performing side.

I get that people are fed up (so am I) but you can't judge any players based on four bloody games. He may very well turn out to be a bad signing but you can't say that for sure yet.

Redhenry

here we go again, reminiscing about previous players like they are world beaters

killerandflash

Interesting that so far this season Pompey are yet to let in a goal in the league

ElliotCAFC

What happened with Amos is the same thing people did to JFC. 

They assumed we could do much better and now we have CMG and Sean Clare

SoundAsa£

We have let so many good keepers slip through our hands in recent times……it’s quite incredible when you come to think of it.

ForeverAddickted

killerandflash said:

Interesting that so far this season Pompey are yet to let in a goal in the league

Also worth noting the three teams they've faced are currently: 21st | 22nd | 24th

Ironically they play the team in 23rd on Saturday so on the face of it at the moment, they've had the easiest start of everyone

arny23394

I have no doubt he will improve, but based on what I have seen, he is the worst Goalkeeper we’ve had in years.

Mendonca In Asdas

Amos up on Saturday?

If he has a worldie at the valley, this thread will explode!

For the record I’m not convinced by this fella at the moment , and I said to my son it might take 10 league games for him to improve / settle in, before the season started.

AFKABartram

Keepers can take time to settle and play with confidence in a team. Though positioning for their first last night was a bit suspect and flat footed.

I think he’ll prove ok

johnnybev1987

Far too early to call, Player of the year for Pompey last year. Some people need time to settle even goalkeepers, lets throw some stats out for the last 3 seasons, all league one: 
20/21 - 15 clean sheets - 46 games - 51 goals total conceded
19/20 - 6 clean sheets - 20 games - 26 goals 
18/19 - 11 clean sheets - 46 games - 51 goals

That is the kind of stats that we need, clean sheets will win games. Yes he has made a couple of mistakes so far but all keepers are going to be judged on this. Overall, the end of the season i expect he will do more than enough to have won people over. 

Although i would add, i would still like a decent backup or someone to challenge for the number 1 position as that can always be a factor. 

Hartleypete

 cost us a point in each of our away games.

killerandflash

ForeverAddickted said:

killerandflash said:

Interesting that so far this season Pompey are yet to let in a goal in the league

Also worth noting the three teams they've faced are currently: 21st | 22nd | 24th

Ironically they play the team in 23rd on Saturday so on the face of it at the moment, they've had the easiest start of everyone

Fair comment, though lowly teams can carry a goal threat. Reading the BBC report from last night

Early in the second half, Bazunu made a good save low down to his left to push Luke Leahy's 20-yard shot away for a corner.

In the last minute of normal time, Bazunu made a stunning flying save to keep out Udoh's header from point-blank range and deny Shrewsbury a point.

ForeverAddickted

killerandflash said:

ForeverAddickted said:

killerandflash said:

Interesting that so far this season Pompey are yet to let in a goal in the league

Also worth noting the three teams they've faced are currently: 21st | 22nd | 24th

Ironically they play the team in 23rd on Saturday so on the face of it at the moment, they've had the easiest start of everyone

Fair comment, though lowly teams can carry a goal threat. Reading the BBC report from last night

Early in the second half, Bazunu made a good save low down to his left to push Luke Leahy's 20-yard shot away for a corner.

In the last minute of normal time, Bazunu made a stunning flying save to keep out Udoh's header from point-blank range and deny Shrewsbury a point.

Yeah I did check the stats after my post at the shots on target, and to be fair its not like Bazunu didnt need to be there

Four shots on target faced from Fleetwood and Shrewsbury, just the one against Crewe

killerandflash

ForeverAddickted said:

killerandflash said:

ForeverAddickted said:

killerandflash said:

Interesting that so far this season Pompey are yet to let in a goal in the league

Also worth noting the three teams they've faced are currently: 21st | 22nd | 24th

Ironically they play the team in 23rd on Saturday so on the face of it at the moment, they've had the easiest start of everyone

Fair comment, though lowly teams can carry a goal threat. Reading the BBC report from last night

Early in the second half, Bazunu made a good save low down to his left to push Luke Leahy's 20-yard shot away for a corner.

In the last minute of normal time, Bazunu made a stunning flying save to keep out Udoh's header from point-blank range and deny Shrewsbury a point.

Yeah I did check the stats after my post at the shots on target, and to be fair its not like Bazunu didnt need to be there

Four shots on target faced from Fleetwood and Shrewsbury, just the one against Crewe

Cowley likes his keepers to play for the back, he was very complimentary about how Bazuna helped create one of the goals on Saturday (in the Man City style)

ISawLeaburnScore

In football to be a decent side, the aim should be for every player to go into training and look at someone who is genuine competition and could take their shirt if they take their eye off the ball.

Who does MacGillivray see?
Equally who do Famewo, Stockley, Jayiesimi, etc see?

A squad isn't only important when you have injuries and suspensions or a fixture pile up. It is important every day of every season and that starts on Day 1 of pre season training.

Some poor keeping in the first few games and history suggests he's better than that, but where's the pressure to improve?

cafcsinger

Shocking so far

Stig

SoundAsa£ said:

We have let so many good keepers slip through our hands in recent times……it’s quite incredible when you come to think of it.

I see what you did there and I like it.