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Sam Lavelle - gone to Carlisle on a 2year deal (p22)

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  • Sam_777 said:
    Deji Elerewe come on down, son. 
    We simply can’t play a youth player who won’t sign a contract when we have other fit defenders. 

    Sign a contract, become a regular in League One and get your big move in the summer. I have no idea why these kids are so desperate to fast-track before even proving themselves.
    Easy. MONEY.
    Of course. I just don’t understand being so married to the idea of not signing when you have…
     
    Option A: Sign a contract, play professional football and secure a fee for the club that supported your development as a player and human being, becoming very rich once you move. 

    Option B: sit on the bench and leave at the end of the season having barely played any first team football, becoming very rich once you move. 

    With so many examples of us selling youngsters who go on to succeed, particularly in his position, you can’t help but question the lads character. 
    Wonder who is advising him, and who his agent is?
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    edited October 2021
    We really waving fingers at Deji already when the reality is we’ve no idea what’s going on behind the scenes, ffs he’s a kid who’s just turned 18.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    Gutting. I think he’ll be excellent.
    We really have bizarre luck with injuries. Leaves us light at the back. DE straight on the bench for the inevitable dip in form from Pearcey. 
  • "Barely missed a game for a few years"

    Just ridiculous luck on our part - We could sign Superman and he'll still get injured with a dodgy knee or something
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    It is really amazing how this keeps happening ! Nobodies fault but it is unreal how often we get key injuries all the time
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,076
    What's happening to Innis? 
  • Now we have a glut of wingers and midfielders, you can guarantee our next injury will be to another CB or to a striker
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,001
    edited October 2021

  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    MattF said:
    He should have said “barely missed a game for a few years, joined Charlton and it was inevitable”

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  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    This is why we need someone less injury prone than Innis. Great player and bloke but could really leave us short at the back...
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited October 2021
    "Barely missed a game for a few years"

    Just ridiculous luck on our part - We could sign Superman and he'll still get injured with a dodgy knee or something no phone box nearby to change in.
    Oh hang on minute you’re right there’s hardly any these days 😁.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    2 left footed Centre backs here we go  :#
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    mendonca said:
    2 left footed Centre backs here we go  :#
    To be fair they did ok last Saturday as a three mind, with Matthews on the right 😉.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,882
    edited October 2021
    A contributing factor to another key injury is likely down to the botched last minute transfer window. If we get the players in early, the new and improved medical team can then better tailor their fitness and make them ready for the season. Sandgaard really needs better advisors / football people in the building.

    I sincerely hope that whoever arranged the start of the season  is learning the lesson / being accountable for it. Also that Sandgaard is reconsidering the whole get the players in at the last minute approach for next season.  Charlton might have a proper go at promotion then.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,882
    vff said:
    A contributing factor to another key injury is likely down to the botched last minute transfer window. If we get the players in early, the new and improved medical team can then better tailor their fitness and make them ready for the season. Sandgaard really needs better advisors / football people in the building.

    I sincerely hope that whoever arranged the start of the season  is learning the lesson / being accountable for it. Also that Sandgaard is reconsidering the whole get the players in at the last minute approach for next season.  Charlton might have a proper go at promotion then.
    Lol, nice one.

    Player gets injured in a game = blame the owner!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    Oh bollocks. That’s bad news. I am really warming to Sam and think he’s going to be a great player for us long term. Hope he gets fit ASAP. I know Pearcy played well Saturday but he isn’t the answer although needs must.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    I thought Lavelle had a full pre season with Morecambe 🤷‍♂️
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,406
    RedChaser said:
    mendonca said:
    2 left footed Centre backs here we go  :#
    To be fair they did ok last Saturday as a three mind, with Matthews on the right 😉.
    They did on Saturday but we know all 3 have in them to implode as and when they fancy!
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,882
    RedChaser said:
    I thought Lavelle had a full pre season with Morecambe 🤷‍♂️
    Dont be silly. It's down to our transfer window.

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  • https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/injury-setback-for-charlton-as-ryan-inniss-and-ronnie-schwartz-both-sidelined-for-months/

    Looking up what was said about Inniss (on the 16th September)

    “Ryan Inniss is going to be out for a couple of months, at least, with a thigh injury,” said Adkins.

    As this is (a) Charlton and (b) Inniss, he'll probably be out until Christmas
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited October 2021
    mendonca said:
    RedChaser said:
    mendonca said:
    2 left footed Centre backs here we go  :#
    To be fair they did ok last Saturday as a three mind, with Matthews on the right 😉.
    They did on Saturday but we know all 3 have in them to implode as and when they fancy!
    That’s the spirit 😉. Hobson's choice we just have to get on with it I’m afraid.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,594
    RedChaser said:
    I thought Lavelle had a full pre season with Morecambe 🤷‍♂️
    He did and played in their first few games. 
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,702
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/injury-setback-for-charlton-as-ryan-inniss-and-ronnie-schwartz-both-sidelined-for-months/

    Looking up what was said about Inniss (on the 16th September)

    “Ryan Inniss is going to be out for a couple of months, at least, with a thigh injury,” said Adkins.

    As this is (a) Charlton and (b) Inniss, he'll probably be out until Christmas
    I'd bet on him not playing another 10 games this season

    Pearce and Famewo won't be able to go Saturday-Tuesday to the end of the season and if we're not playing Deji until he signs a contract (which he won't - if he was going to he would've done already and it didn't sound positive on the CAST call with Roddy & Adkins) then that means we're back to playing players out of position at CB

    Imo it was crazy to leave the window with Pearce as the only backup to Lavelle and Famewo when we knew Inniss wouldn't make it through the season without a serious injury
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    edited October 2021
    Hindsight is a wonderful thing. There is no way TS our any owner at our level would have 6 CBs on there books at the start of the season in case of future injuries. Furthermore Lavelle has been almost ever present for Morecambe over the last few seasons and not in the injury prone risky signing category.

    You can question the decision to sign Innis in the first place but it was a gamble which unfortunately isn’t paying off. All is not lost though, Dobson is a converted CB from his youth at West Ham and could possibly still do a job there. In the words of the manager before last, ‘It is what it is’ and we’ll have to make do at worst until January. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,356
    edited October 2021
    Difficult to play three at the back when you have two fit CBs. If one more gets injured, it's going to be a right mess. The squad needs rejigging in January if Jackson wants to stick with this formation. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,509
    Redrobo said:
    Sam_777 said:
    Deji Elerewe come on down, son. 
    We simply can’t play a youth player who won’t sign a contract when we have other fit defenders

    Sign a contract, become a regular in League One and get your big move in the summer. I have no idea why these kids are so desperate to fast-track before even proving themselves.
    We don't though.

    Famewo and Pearce will start. Inniss and Lavelle are injured, Gunter is a liability. Who else is there?
    Mathews, Famewo, Pearce. Just like we did at Sunderland when Lavelle went off.
    Gunter played centre back for us and Wales and Dobson has also played there for Sunderland 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/injury-setback-for-charlton-as-ryan-inniss-and-ronnie-schwartz-both-sidelined-for-months/

    Looking up what was said about Inniss (on the 16th September)

    “Ryan Inniss is going to be out for a couple of months, at least, with a thigh injury,” said Adkins.

    As this is (a) Charlton and (b) Inniss, he'll probably be out until Christmas
    I'd bet on him not playing another 10 games this season

    Pearce and Famewo won't be able to go Saturday-Tuesday to the end of the season and if we're not playing Deji until he signs a contract (which he won't - if he was going to he would've done already and it didn't sound positive on the CAST call with Roddy & Adkins) then that means we're back to playing players out of position at CB

    Imo it was crazy to leave the window with Pearce as the only backup to Lavelle and Famewo when we knew Inniss wouldn't make it through the season without a serious injury
    It's not when crazy when there's a 22 player squad limit (excluding GKs and u21s). With Deji we had 5 senior CBs. If you want more then you have to leave yourself short elsewhere in the squad. We couldn't cover it with u21 loans as they sign expecting to play.

    The answer for me is to release injury prone players like Inniss in the summer, sign players earlier so they have a full preseason (though not an issue with Lavelle who had a preseason with Morecambe) and do what we can to improve our medical/sports science setup.

    Even doing that doesn't mean we won't get any longer term injuries. We usually have a few more by now so hopefully it's going to be better than in previous years.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    edited October 2021
    RedChaser said:
    Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

     There is no way TS our any owner at our level would have 6 CBs on there books at the start of the season in case of future injuries. Furthermore Lavelle has been almost ever present for Morecambe over the last few seasons and not in the injury prone risky signing category.

    You can question the decision to sign Innis in the first place but it was a gamble which unfortunately isn’t paying off. All is not lost though, Dobson is a converted CB from his youth at West Ham and could possibly still do a job there. In the words of the manager before last, ‘It is what it is’ and we’ll have to make do at worst until January. 
    No need to go any further than you first 5 words.

    If only some people would have questioned the transfer policy back in late June then we might not be in this mess. Oh wait........🤔🙂.

    Interesting to see of Jacko persists with his 5 at the back policy now........or whether that will end up being a 1 game wonder.

    All I will say is that Pearce is NOT the answer at centre half. Slow, cumbersome & always has a foul/penalty in him. 

    Bye bye winning run.....