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  • Energy boss on this morning's 'Wake Up To Money' says appreciable money can be saved by simply adjusting your boiler flow temperature.  Good explanation here.

    https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/articles/turn-down-the-boiler-flow-temperature
    Thanks for sharing. We need to hear more grown up stuff like this rather than people banging on about civil unrest.
    It doesn't help everyone, I live in a rented house with a boiler that is about 30 years old.

    Fortunately our price is fixed until June 2023 so we won't feel the full impact until next year, but there are millions who live in properties with old heating systems and don't have the funds to pay these unbelievable increases.

    But it will help some - I think that's the point.
  • There's only so much people can do for the rise this winter. What happens when the prices inevitably go up again early next year? There won't be any wriggle room left for many people.
  • Energy boss on this morning's 'Wake Up To Money' says appreciable money can be saved by simply adjusting your boiler flow temperature.  Good explanation here.

    https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/articles/turn-down-the-boiler-flow-temperature
    Thanks for sharing. We need to hear more grown up stuff like this rather than people banging on about civil unrest.
    It doesn't help everyone, I live in a rented house with a boiler that is about 30 years old.

    Fortunately our price is fixed until June 2023 so we won't feel the full impact until next year, but there are millions who live in properties with old heating systems and don't have the funds to pay these unbelievable increases.
    If that boiler was to accidentally break beyond repair wouldn’t your landperson have to replace it…?
  • WSS said:
    Energy boss on this morning's 'Wake Up To Money' says appreciable money can be saved by simply adjusting your boiler flow temperature.  Good explanation here.

    https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/articles/turn-down-the-boiler-flow-temperature
    Thanks for sharing. We need to hear more grown up stuff like this rather than people banging on about civil unrest.
    It doesn't help everyone, I live in a rented house with a boiler that is about 30 years old.

    Fortunately our price is fixed until June 2023 so we won't feel the full impact until next year, but there are millions who live in properties with old heating systems and don't have the funds to pay these unbelievable increases.
    If that boiler was to accidentally break beyond repair wouldn’t your landperson have to replace it…?
    We actually have a very good landlady, she doesn't increase the rent by an excessive amount each year (although it is quite high), she fully insulated the loft last year and always does any repairs very quickly . She knows we are good tenants and it is a two way thing.  Having experienced terrible landlords at our last 2 rental properties, we are grateful to have a good landlady this time.
  • Instead of giving handouts to help pay our bills why don’t the government do what they’ve failed to do and invest in green energy for the future which they’ve insisted on.By putting solar panels on every house in the country. We then have a nationalised green energy company. 

    Because the grid would fall over mate. There isnt the infrastucture to cope and tbh the DNO's (district network operators) are in no rush to upgrade it
  • Solar and battery storage would mean the grid could cope absolutely fine
  • WSS said:
    Energy boss on this morning's 'Wake Up To Money' says appreciable money can be saved by simply adjusting your boiler flow temperature.  Good explanation here.

    https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/articles/turn-down-the-boiler-flow-temperature
    Thanks for sharing. We need to hear more grown up stuff like this rather than people banging on about civil unrest.
    It doesn't help everyone, I live in a rented house with a boiler that is about 30 years old.

    Fortunately our price is fixed until June 2023 so we won't feel the full impact until next year, but there are millions who live in properties with old heating systems and don't have the funds to pay these unbelievable increases.
    If that boiler was to accidentally break beyond repair wouldn’t your landperson have to replace it…?
    We actually have a very good landlady, she doesn't increase the rent by an excessive amount each year (although it is quite high), she fully insulated the loft last year and always does any repairs very quickly . She knows we are good tenants and it is a two way thing.  Having experienced terrible landlords at our last 2 rental properties, we are grateful to have a good landlady this time.
    Amazed it isn’t illegal to have a 30 year old boiler in a rented property. 
  • I may have missed it somewhere either on the news or on this thread but while I can understand the gas prices going up what is driving the electricity price up also?


  • I may have missed it somewhere either on the news or on this thread but while I can understand the gas prices going up what is driving the electricity price up also?



    I think alot of electricity is generated by gas power stations.
  • WSS said:
    Energy boss on this morning's 'Wake Up To Money' says appreciable money can be saved by simply adjusting your boiler flow temperature.  Good explanation here.

    https://www.theheatinghub.co.uk/articles/turn-down-the-boiler-flow-temperature
    Thanks for sharing. We need to hear more grown up stuff like this rather than people banging on about civil unrest.
    It doesn't help everyone, I live in a rented house with a boiler that is about 30 years old.

    Fortunately our price is fixed until June 2023 so we won't feel the full impact until next year, but there are millions who live in properties with old heating systems and don't have the funds to pay these unbelievable increases.
    If that boiler was to accidentally break beyond repair wouldn’t your landperson have to replace it…?
    We actually have a very good landlady, she doesn't increase the rent by an excessive amount each year (although it is quite high), she fully insulated the loft last year and always does any repairs very quickly . She knows we are good tenants and it is a two way thing.  Having experienced terrible landlords at our last 2 rental properties, we are grateful to have a good landlady this time.
    Amazed it isn’t illegal to have a 30 year old boiler in a rented property. 
    It is tested every year.
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  • So Johnson and Zahawi met with 15 energy company bosses today and after the meeting no solutions to the energy price crisis were found. Just wtf.
  • So Johnson and Zahawi met with 15 energy company bosses today and after the meeting no solutions to the energy price crisis were found. Just wtf.
    They don't care and bills are now predicted to be over 5K from January. 
  • I don’t believe that there will be that many people refusing to pay their monthly direct debits but I do believe that there will be a lot of people who won’t have the money to pay. A not too subtle difference. I still can’t believe that the government won’t at least double the current help.
  • I may have missed it somewhere either on the news or on this thread but while I can understand the gas prices going up what is driving the electricity price up also?



    I think alot of electricity is generated by gas power stations.
    Yeah, about 50%. More renewables = lower electricity prices
  • I mentioned this months back, but perhaps it is time to revisit, should winter EFL games be put back to kick off at 2pm to reduce use of floodlights and our national energy usage?
    I think that’s a very valid point. Would anyone have an idea what a floodlit game costs in terms of electricity?
  • I mentioned this months back, but perhaps it is time to revisit, should winter EFL games be put back to kick off at 2pm to reduce use of floodlights and our national energy usage?
    I think that’s a banging suggestion. Another grown up suggestion. Keep them coming 👍
  • I thought the floodlights had to be on for an entire game, even if they’re only needed for one half, so that each team has the same quality of light? Forgive me if that’s wrong, but I’m sure I heard that before.
  • Ross said:
    I thought the floodlights had to be on for an entire game, even if they’re only needed for one half, so that each team has the same quality of light? Forgive me if that’s wrong, but I’m sure I heard that before.
    Honestly I have no idea, but on the face of it seems like an easy win
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    I’m sure that I’ve been to games where the floods came on at halftime.
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  • The super soar away Sun recently reported that running flood lights in League 1 and 2 would double to £100,000.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/19229446/efl-crisis-floodlights-costs-doubling/

    Hope Charlton don't tweak it down






    In order to assess the lux value, a series of 88 readings must be taken with a light meter on a grid pattern set out on the pitch at approximately 10 metres apart. The light meter must be placed on a horizontal plane at pitch level and the average of all the readings is taken to be the average lux value of the floodlights.
  • I’m assuming the lux value at The Valley is Championship standard ?
  • Loads of clubs outside the top half of the championship are running old fashion lighting systems, it won’t hurt most of the Premier League as they run on LED lighting at a fraction of the cost to light the place up
  • Ross said:
    I thought the floodlights had to be on for an entire game, even if they’re only needed for one half, so that each team has the same quality of light? Forgive me if that’s wrong, but I’m sure I heard that before.
    I honestly haven't noticed that. 
  • I mentioned this months back, but perhaps it is time to revisit, should winter EFL games be put back to kick off at 2pm to reduce use of floodlights and our national energy usage?
    No brainier decision IMO. 
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  • I mentioned this months back, but perhaps it is time to revisit, should winter EFL games be put back to kick off at 2pm to reduce use of floodlights and our national energy usage?
    I think 10,000 people sitting in the cold keeping themselves warm and "sharing" the floodlights is much better than 10,000 people sitting at home watching TV with the lights and heating on!

    This would just be one of those propaganda exercises to make people feel something was being "done". 
  • I mentioned this months back, but perhaps it is time to revisit, should winter EFL games be put back to kick off at 2pm to reduce use of floodlights and our national energy usage?
    I think 10,000 people sitting in the cold keeping themselves warm and "sharing" the floodlights is much better than 10,000 people sitting at home watching TV with the lights and heating on!

    This would just be one of those propaganda exercises to make people feel something was being "done". 
    So all those10,000 people live alone and don’t have family at home not attending ?
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