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  • Checked my bank account this morning and surprised to find a £66 credit from EDF, as I thought that this was supposed to have come off the bill each month.
  • edited October 2022
    Checked my bank account this morning and surprised to find a £66 credit from EDF, as I thought that this was supposed to have come off the bill each month.
    EDF are one of the providers who if you pay by DD are crediting your bank account, I'm with them but not had anything yet.

    Details here;

    https://www.edfenergy.com/for-home/energy-bills-support-scheme
  • Rob7Lee said:
    Checked my bank account this morning and surprised to find a £66 credit from EDF, as I thought that this was supposed to have come off the bill each month.
    EDF are one of the providers who if you pay by DD are crediting your bank account, I'm with them but not had anything yet.

    Details here;

    https://www.edfenergy.com/for-home/energy-bills-support-scheme
    this .. I pay my bill at the very end of the month so am due a rebate at the end of October after Oct's d d is paid
  • I was given an air fryer by my eldest son for my birthday. I would really recommend getting one as my wife absolutely loves cooking with it. Who said that present was wasted on me?
  • Rob7Lee said:
    Checked my bank account this morning and surprised to find a £66 credit from EDF, as I thought that this was supposed to have come off the bill each month.
    EDF are one of the providers who if you pay by DD are crediting your bank account, I'm with them but not had anything yet.

    Details here;

    https://www.edfenergy.com/for-home/energy-bills-support-scheme
    My DD is paid on 1st day of the month, so I presume that the payment triggers the credit back to the bank account.
  • a comprehensive Which rundown of air fryers .. disappointing that the Ninja 300 is given a poorish rating, they must have found a feeling poorly on the day Ninja  

    Ninja Foodi vs Tower Air fryer vs Tefal Actifry: which one should you buy?

    See how Ninja, Tower and Tefal stack up against each other to make the tastiest low-oil foods with minimal fuss – and find out which brand makes the best chips
    MV
    Manca Virant

    Since the first air fryer was unveiled in 2010, many brands have entered the fray, thanks to high demand from buyers looking for low-oil, countertop cooking. 

    Every year, we test air fryers from all the major brands, including Ninja, Tower and Tefal. We also test products from brands such as Philips, DeLonghi, Morphy Richards and Russell Hobbs. We rigorously test each fryer, looking for the ones that are easy to use and which make tasty air-fried food.

    Head to our shortlist of the best air fryers to see which ones came top in our tests.

    Ninja vs Tower vs Tefal – features compared

    Woman using an air fryer

    Tefal was the first brand to launch a low-fat fryer– the ActiFry – around 10 years ago, closely followed by Philips with its Airfryer. More recently, Ninja and Tower both tried to get a slice of the pie, too.

    Ninja Foodi

    • Ninja sells the Ninja AF100UK at just under £100 as its basic offering, but have since released the Ninja Foodi Dual Zone (£199) and Ninja Foodi MAX (£199).
    • Premium Ninja air fryers come with extra bells and whistles. The Foodi Dual Zone has two chambers that can cook independently of one another, and the Foodi MAX functions like a grill, with a probe that monitors food temperature for optimal timings.
    • The Ninja Foodi Multi-Cooker can grill, slow cook, bake, roast, steam, sauté and air-fry your food – it even works as an electric pressure cooker. 
    • Ninja air fryers don't have viewing windows. If you're a keen watcher, you'll be pausing it often to check on your food. 
    • Ninja products come with a 12-month warranty, which is less than Tower and Tefal air fryers.

    Our Ninja Foodi air fryer reviews will let you know how they performed in our test lab.

    Tefal ActiFry

    • Tefal ActiFry models cost from around £80 to just under £280. The Easy Fry range is cheaper than the ActiFry range. 
    • A higher price gets you a larger cooking capacity – up to 1.7kg with the Tefal ActiFry Genius XL – and advanced features, such as the extra cooking layer of the Tefal ActiFry Genius XL 2in1.
    • Easy Fry models are opaque, but ActiFry models have a viewing window at the top so you can see your food browning.
    • Tefal offers a two-year guarantee on new air fryer purchases. 

    Read our Tefal air fryer reviews to find a great model from the original brand.

    Tower Air fryers

    See our Tower air fryer reviews to find out how they fared in our tough lab tests.

    Which brand is best?

    In the table below, we've brought together all our expert knowledge to give you the verdict on which brand is best, including:

    • How well each brand's air fryers performed on average in our tough tests
    • What each brand's highest and lowest-scoring air fryers earned in our test lab
    • How much each brand's highest-capacity air fryer is capable of cooking in kilograms
    • Our overall verdict

    Only logged-in Which? members can see our verdicts in the table below. If you’re not yet a member, join Which? to get instant access.

    Air fryer brands rated

    BrandAverage test scoreTest score rangeAverage star rating for cooking chipsAverage star rating for cooking chickenAverage star rating for ease of useHighest capacity air fryer
    Ninja (8)75%67%-84%
    ★★★★☆
    ★★★★★
    ★★★★☆
    2.2 kg
    Tefal (7)72%56%-84%
    ★★★★☆
    ★★★★★
    ★★★★☆
    1.7 kg
    Tower (5)56%53%-60%
    ★★★★☆
    ★★★★☆
    ★★★☆☆
    0.9 kg

    Table notes: data collected from models online in September 2022. The number of products tested is displayed in brackets.

    Brand verdicts

    1. Ninja

    • Our top pick Although it's a latecomer to the market, Ninja's air fryers are typically high performers and fantastic at making a batch of chips. 
    • Its average test score is boosted by the Ninja Foodi MAX, one of the best air fryers on test, but the smaller and cheaper Ninja AF100UK, another Best Buy, bolsters it, too. 
    • Ninja's only disappointing product so far is the Ninja Foodi Multi-Cooker OP300UK, which is an air fryer-pressure cooker hybrid. Overall, Ninja is the brand to beat.
    • But be careful. As of July 2021, Ninja is the only brand of the three to offer only a one-year warranty rather than two or three years. 

    2. Tefal

    • Our top alternative Tefal air fryers are among the best on test, but the brand's average test score is lower than Ninja's because Tefal has saturated the market with some air fryers that aren't worth buying. 
    • The Tefal ActiFry Genius XL 2in1 was the first air fryer to have two cooking chambers, and it's still one of the best air fryers you can buy. The Tefal ActiFry Genius + and Tefal Genius XL are brilliant air fryers that don't dominate the countertop. 
    • Tefal's cheaper models can disappoint, such as the Tefal Easy Fry Precision.
    • Tefal offers a two-year guarantee on its air fryers. 

    3. Tower

    • Tower has struggled to keep up with its competitors more recently, and none of its air fryers is a Best Buy.
    • From digital displays and multi-tier cooking system to rotisserie oven and dehydrator functions, Tower offers plenty, but struggles when it comes to the basics.
    • But it's not all negative – Tower air fryers are less prone to faults than most, with only 7% developing a fault in the first seven years, according to our air fryer owner survey conducted in May 2022, making it a low-risk choice for brand loyalists.
    • Tower offers a three-year guarantee which is more generous than Ninja's one-year guarantee or Tefal's two-year guarantee.

    Top Ninja air fryer

      • BEST BUY
      Ninja Foodi MAX AG551UK

      Ninja

      Foodi MAX AG551UK

      Test score

      84%

      Simply one of the best air fryers we’ve tested thanks to its many functions, the ingenuity of its ‘smart cooking system’, and its excellent cooking performance.

      Read full review

    Top Tefal air fryer

      • BEST BUY
      Tefal Actifry Genius XL 2in1 YV970840

      Tefal

      Actifry Genius XL 2in1 YV970840

      Test score

      84%

      This air fryer is impressive in every measure – cooking amazing chips and chicken quickly, with easy-to-use controls and it's all dishwasher safe.

      Read full review

    Top Tower air fryer

    • Tower T17039 Vortx 5-in-1 11L Digital Air Fryer Oven-in-1 SmartLid Multi-Cooker

      Tower

      T17039 Vortx 5-in-1 11L Digital Air Fryer Oven-in-1 SmartLid Multi-Cooker

      Test score

      60%

      Although it's bulky and not the most energy efficient air fryer we've tested, it's extremely versatile and can be used as an air fryer or a rotisserie oven. On top of that, it makes excellent chicken and tasty chips.

  • I'm with Eon and they have deducted the amount from what they are taking by direct debit.
  • edited October 2022


    Caught some of the Nick Ferrari show on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the energy companies offering £10 to those with smart meters who use their appliances like washing machines / dishwashers and other high energy bits of kit overnight when demand for energy is at its lowest. Didn’t here much detail but interesting ? 


  • Caught some of the Nick Ferrari show on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the energy companies offering £10 to those with smart meters who use their appliances like washing machines / dishwashers and other high energy bits of kit overnight when demand for energy is at its lowest. Didn’t here much detail but interesting ? 
    It seems there was a whole campaign produced to advise on energy efficiency but apparently No10 have blocked it. Not sure why - assuming it has something to do with health and not encouraging vulnerable people to turn off their heating. 
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  • bobmunro said:


    Caught some of the Nick Ferrari show on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the energy companies offering £10 to those with smart meters who use their appliances like washing machines / dishwashers and other high energy bits of kit overnight when demand for energy is at its lowest. Didn’t here much detail but interesting ? 
    It seems there was a whole campaign produced to advise on energy efficiency but apparently No10 have blocked it. Not sure why - assuming it has something to do with health and not encouraging vulnerable people to turn off their heating. 
    Or / as well because if they give this advice (despite it being in the national interest to smooth demand) opposition parties will try and make political gain from it. 

    Damned if they do. Damned if they don’t. 
  • edited October 2022
    bobmunro said:


    Caught some of the Nick Ferrari show on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the energy companies offering £10 to those with smart meters who use their appliances like washing machines / dishwashers and other high energy bits of kit overnight when demand for energy is at its lowest. Didn’t here much detail but interesting ? 
    It seems there was a whole campaign produced to advise on energy efficiency but apparently No10 have blocked it. Not sure why - assuming it has something to do with health and not encouraging vulnerable people to turn off their heating. 
    Or / as well because if they give this advice (despite it being in the national interest to smooth demand) opposition parties will try and make political gain from it. 

    Damned if they do. Damned if they don’t. 
    I’m afraid those are the trials and tribulations of being in power. It doesn’t mean you say fuck all because you’re too scared to take the perceived criticism.
  • bobmunro said:


    Caught some of the Nick Ferrari show on the way to work this morning and they were talking about the energy companies offering £10 to those with smart meters who use their appliances like washing machines / dishwashers and other high energy bits of kit overnight when demand for energy is at its lowest. Didn’t here much detail but interesting ? 
    It seems there was a whole campaign produced to advise on energy efficiency but apparently No10 have blocked it. Not sure why - assuming it has something to do with health and not encouraging vulnerable people to turn off their heating. 
    Or / as well because if they give this advice (despite it being in the national interest to smooth demand) opposition parties will try and make political gain from it. 

    Damned if they do. Damned if they don’t. 
    I’m afraid those are the trials and tribulations of being in power. It doesn’t mean you say fuck all because you’re too scared to take the perceived criticism.
    Quite agree. 

    It’s a shame our political parties and system means they have to wage a war with each other on whatever the topic rather than collaborate more. 

    Not everything is bad, not everything is good. Compromise and concessions are always needed. 

    The constant bickering on all sides is unhelpful but was ever thus I guess. 
  • The value of discounts on electricity bills for households that cut peak-time use is to be raised, National Grid ESO has said.

    Households will be paid £3 per kilowatt hour instead of 52p, if they avoid high-power activities, such as cooking, when demand is high, the firm said.

    Energy firms Octopus and E.On had said the 52p payment to incentivise customers to sign up was too low.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63329233

  • Households will be offered discounts on their electricity bills if they cut peak-time use on a handful of days over the winter, as part of National Grid's efforts to avoid blackouts.

    The network operator has announced details of the scheme, which it said could save households up to £100.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63483668

  • I've given in & put the heating on.
    I checked the forecast and it's down to 5C overnight, which is the coldest it has been & will be for at least the next 2 weeks.
  • clive said:

    The value of discounts on electricity bills for households that cut peak-time use is to be raised, National Grid ESO has said.

    Households will be paid £3 per kilowatt hour instead of 52p, if they avoid high-power activities, such as cooking, when demand is high, the firm said.

    Energy firms Octopus and E.On had said the 52p payment to incentivise customers to sign up was too low.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63329233

    Bit late to the party with this, but isnt this a little bit pointless?

    Unless I'm missing something, like how if everyone purchases priority boarding for EasyJet etc. it suddenly just becomes pointless, and a waste of money because everyone has the option, so becomes normal boarding.

    Same with using electricity during "off-peak" times... If everyone does it, then doesnt it suddenly become peak time?
  • Wow, talk about a big jump, last October paid £150 for gas & electric, this year £547 and we’ve had the aga taken out , which cut gas units used by 75% 👀
  • I've given in & put the heating on.
    I checked the forecast and it's down to 5C overnight, which is the coldest it has been & will be for at least the next 2 weeks.
    Smart meter gone up 30p in about 20 mins.
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  • Smart meter is showing the cost as £1 per hour.
  • Smart meter is showing the cost as £1 per hour.
    Turn it  off! Turn it off!

    Don't make the super rich and oligarchs even wealthier.

    Save money. Go to bed and treat your missus to an early night. winky winky :smiley:


  • I wonder if the nations usage is less or comparable to last year ?

    Impression is that more are consciously resisting turning the heating on and it’s been relatively mild but is that the reality?

    I guess under usage is good for our fuel securirty currently if true. 
  • edited November 2022
    Oggy Red said:
    Smart meter is showing the cost as £1 per hour.
    Turn it  off! Turn it off!

    Don't make the super rich and oligarchs even wealthier.

    Save money. Go to bed and treat your missus to an early night. winky winky :smiley:


    Actually that's £3.40 in 2.5 hours, so £1.40ish per hour.
    Fortunately I can afford it, but feel for those that can't. 
  • edited November 2022
    Anyone tried the clay flowerpot and tea candles yet?
  • No central heating for us.

    The candles on Mr F's birthday cake are doing the trick tonight.
  • Oggy Red said:
    Smart meter is showing the cost as £1 per hour.
    Turn it  off! Turn it off!

    Don't make the super rich and oligarchs even wealthier.

    Save money. Go to bed and treat your missus to an early night. winky winky :smiley:


    Cant we even say Ovaltine these days?
  • I’m wondering if we can have the B’Stards up on a Human Rights issue?

    Surely it’s everyone’s right to keep warm in the winter, I think I’ll give it a go.
  • No central heating for us.

    The candles on Mr F's birthday cake are doing the trick tonight.
    Happy Birthday, Mr Fanackapan. Perhaps don't blow the candles out until bedtime? :smile:


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