I bet it was carnage around Old St - always heavy traffic there
I had to go to Moorfields last week with my daughter, and its the first time i had ever been to Old Street.
What i noticed when i came out of the tube was the amount of vehicles sounding their horns and no traffic moving, even some idiots stopped on the cross hatches. So i thought this morning that would be a waste of time.
I bet it was carnage around Old St - always heavy traffic there
I had to go to Moorfields last week with my daughter, and its the first time i had ever been to Old Street.
What i noticed when i came out of the tube was the amount of vehicles sounding their horns and no traffic moving, even some idiots stopped on the cross hatches. So i thought this morning that would be a waste of time.
It's like that every hour of the day there. When they spent millions redesigning the roundabout it was supposed to improve traffic. It's never been worse.
Let me read the rule book... hmmm, oh dear! That seems fair though, after all they have plenty of body parts ro spare after all.
Most countries in the world would not put up with their disturbances, The French, Spanish, Italians etc would come down a lot harder than we do and that is before we get to Russia & China.
is it is it time for water cannons yet? Tasers maybe? There needs to be some deterrent before someone gets seriously pissed off and does something they’ll regret
It's time for Negan and Lucille.
I still think he should have been in charge of Brexit negotiations
So it turns out that Insulate Britain leader Liam Norton is an idiot, what a surprise.
From the Standard:
Speaking on talkRADIO, presenter Cristo Foufas asked Norton about why he doesn’t insulate his home.
He replied: “Because I’m a hypocrite."
Foufas pressed him further, adding: "Do you understand why people will think, well, this guy doesn’t care about insulation, he only cares about causing disruption and trying to make a name for himself?"
"Yeah, they’re right," Norton said.
"I don’t particularly care about insulation."
Some people like to protest for the sake of it, to find a cause to hang on, to feel important and the warmth of camaraderie. Liam Norton has had that - plus his 15 minutes of fame - now its time for him to disappear.
All he has to say is that that is the reason they're
protesting. Because they want the government to subsidise insulation in order
for people like him can get insulated.
He's not a mole or a plant, he's privileged fud. One among
many others who think they can dictate to everyone else, even when they don't
know what the score is themselves
For once a thread I can contribute on with a decent amount of knowledge. The figures these people are quoting re uninsulated homes are total rubbish. Or family business was formed in 1974 and its main business activity was insulation. Over the years the business has diversified into other product areas and in 2014 we closed the insulation side. We did this as after 40 years of filling cavities in properties there just were not many left to do. Today there are a few businesses left but in the main they are scratching around trying to find properties or concentrating on new build properties. The problem we have in the UK is that we have old housing stock that is worth far too much money. 1000's of streets of solid wall properties that should have been demolished years ago and replaced with more energy efficient buildings.
Elected ‘leader’ somehow? Or self-appointed? Could he be a mole or a plant?
Do you want to move this preposterous idea to the conspiracy thread?
What you call a preposterous idea is actually three questions.
OK - I'll humour you, but you know exactly what I meant.
Third question.
Yes three mild questions. There are endless descriptions of how these foolish protestors should be harmed, some to my mind pretty distasteful. Set alongside those posts, my asking or posing three questions is as I said a mild contribution.
For once a thread I can contribute on with a decent amount of knowledge. The figures these people are quoting re uninsulated homes are total rubbish. Or family business was formed in 1974 and its main business activity was insulation. Over the years the business has diversified into other product areas and in 2014 we closed the insulation side. We did this as after 40 years of filling cavities in properties there just were not many left to do. Today there are a few businesses left but in the main they are scratching around trying to find properties or concentrating on new build properties. The problem we have in the UK is that we have old housing stock that is worth far too much money. 1000's of streets of solid wall properties that should have been demolished years ago and replaced with more energy efficient buildings.
Those solid wall properties that you mention. I rather not have them knocked down due to the fact that alot of the new buildings that are put up look shite. (i live in one, well, sort off, 20 years old the building) Can those old buildings be properly insulated (if of course the owner wants them to be)?
Elected ‘leader’ somehow? Or self-appointed? Could he be a mole or a plant?
Do you want to move this preposterous idea to the conspiracy thread?
What you call a preposterous idea is actually three questions.
OK - I'll humour you, but you know exactly what I meant.
Third question.
Yes three mild questions. There are endless descriptions of how these foolish protestors should be harmed, some to my mind pretty distasteful. Set alongside those posts, my asking or posing three questions is as I said a mild contribution.
Seth you obviously have some valid points and in no way should these protesters be harmed by the public. However they are being fed rubbish by people who imo are just trying to cause disruption. What they are doing is causing problems for fellow citizens trying to go about their daily business. If any of them did their homework they would know that from April 1st next year anyone with an income below £31k p.a. will be able to have energy efficient measures installed in their homes such as solar p.v., ASHP, external wall insulation totally FOC. There is £4Bn of funding being made available for this in order to cut emissions and ease fuel poverty. But as usual sheep are being used by the wolves to cause trouble in what they think is a noble cause and you cant blame people for getting angry at the disruption they are causing for no good reason
Elected ‘leader’ somehow? Or self-appointed? Could he be a mole or a plant?
Do you want to move this preposterous idea to the conspiracy thread?
What you call a preposterous idea is actually three questions.
OK - I'll humour you, but you know exactly what I meant.
Third question.
Yes three mild questions. There are endless descriptions of how these foolish protestors should be harmed, some to my mind pretty distasteful. Set alongside those posts, my asking or posing three questions is as I said a mild contribution.
Seth if you're referencing my last post it was meant to be over the top humour rather than serious and distasteful. That said if people glue themselves to roads or build contraptions to block runways I won't shed a tear if some skin is lost or bones broken. At the end of the day the protestors rights aren't the only ones to consider.
For once a thread I can contribute on with a decent amount of knowledge. The figures these people are quoting re uninsulated homes are total rubbish. Or family business was formed in 1974 and its main business activity was insulation. Over the years the business has diversified into other product areas and in 2014 we closed the insulation side. We did this as after 40 years of filling cavities in properties there just were not many left to do. Today there are a few businesses left but in the main they are scratching around trying to find properties or concentrating on new build properties. The problem we have in the UK is that we have old housing stock that is worth far too much money. 1000's of streets of solid wall properties that should have been demolished years ago and replaced with more energy efficient buildings.
Those solid wall properties that you mention. I rather not have them knocked down due to the fact that alot of the new buildings that are put up look shite. (i live in one, well, sort off, 20 years old the building) Can those old buildings be properly insulated (if of course the owner wants them to be)?
Notwithstanding the aesthetic and historical importance of those buildings, there is a also a fine balance between the inefficiency of those buildings and the carbon impact of demolition and rebuild. Its not as simple as saying knock down old buildings and build new ones...
Elected ‘leader’ somehow? Or self-appointed? Could he be a mole or a plant?
Do you want to move this preposterous idea to the conspiracy thread?
What you call a preposterous idea is actually three questions.
OK - I'll humour you, but you know exactly what I meant.
Third question.
Yes three mild questions. There are endless descriptions of how these foolish protestors should be harmed, some to my mind pretty distasteful. Set alongside those posts, my asking or posing three questions is as I said a mild contribution.
Seth you obviously have some valid points and in no way should these protesters be harmed by the public. However they are being fed rubbish by people who imo are just trying to cause disruption. What they are doing is causing problems for fellow citizens trying to go about their daily business. If any of them did their homework they would know that from April 1st next year anyone with an income below £31k p.a. will be able to have energy efficient measures installed in their homes such as solar p.v., ASHP, external wall insulation totally FOC. There is £4Bn of funding being made available for this in order to cut emissions and ease fuel poverty. But as usual sheep are being used by the wolves to cause trouble in what they think is a noble cause and you cant blame people for getting angry at the disruption they are causing for no good reason
I have continually criticised these protesters on this thread, even quoting Samuel Beckett to support the point.
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What i noticed when i came out of the tube was the amount of vehicles sounding their horns and no traffic moving, even some idiots stopped on the cross hatches. So i thought this morning that would be a waste of time.
Let me read the rule book... hmmm, oh dear! That seems fair though, after all they have plenty of body parts ro spare after all.
Just a poor joke from me sir.
From the Standard:
Speaking on talkRADIO, presenter Cristo Foufas asked Norton about why he doesn’t insulate his home.
He replied: “Because I’m a hypocrite."
Foufas pressed him further, adding: "Do you understand why people will think, well, this guy doesn’t care about insulation, he only cares about causing disruption and trying to make a name for himself?"
"Yeah, they’re right," Norton said.
"I don’t particularly care about insulation."
Some people like to protest for the sake of it, to find a cause to hang on, to feel important and the warmth of camaraderie. Liam Norton has had that - plus his 15 minutes of fame - now its time for him to disappear.
Or self-appointed?
Could he be a mole or a plant?
All he has to say is that that is the reason they're protesting. Because they want the government to subsidise insulation in order for people like him can get insulated.
He's not a mole or a plant, he's privileged fud. One among many others who think they can dictate to everyone else, even when they don't know what the score is themselves
The figures these people are quoting re uninsulated homes are total rubbish. Or family business was formed in 1974 and its main business activity was insulation. Over the years the business has diversified into other product areas and in 2014 we closed the insulation side. We did this as after 40 years of filling cavities in properties there just were not many left to do. Today there are a few businesses left but in the main they are scratching around trying to find properties or concentrating on new build properties.
The problem we have in the UK is that we have old housing stock that is worth far too much money. 1000's of streets of solid wall properties that should have been demolished years ago and replaced with more energy efficient buildings.
Third question.
There are endless descriptions of how these foolish protestors should be harmed, some to my mind pretty distasteful.
Set alongside those posts, my asking or posing three questions is as I said a mild contribution.
If any of them did their homework they would know that from April 1st next year anyone with an income below £31k p.a. will be able to have energy efficient measures installed in their homes such as solar p.v., ASHP, external wall insulation totally FOC.
There is £4Bn of funding being made available for this in order to cut emissions and ease fuel poverty. But as usual sheep are being used by the wolves to cause trouble in what they think is a noble cause and you cant blame people for getting angry at the disruption they are causing for no good reason