When I was 16 I worked for the co op on £1.92 an hour! A guy and his wife walked in and picked up all the frozen chickens and ran off. The manager shouted at me to stop them, I replied “not for £1.92!!! And let them leave.
I didn’t have a very good relationship with the manager after that
It probably wouldn't have taken the full hour to stop him, though.
When I was 16 I worked for the co op on £1.92 an hour! A guy and his wife walked in and picked up all the frozen chickens and ran off. The manager shouted at me to stop them, I replied “not for £1.92!!! And let them leave.
I didn’t have a very good relationship with the manager after that
It probably wouldn't have taken the full hour to stop him, though.
Got visions of an hour long Benny Hill style chase now
When I was 16 I worked for the co op on £1.92 an hour! A guy and his wife walked in and picked up all the frozen chickens and ran off. The manager shouted at me to stop them, I replied “not for £1.92!!! And let them leave.
I didn’t have a very good relationship with the manager after that
It probably wouldn't have taken the full hour to stop him, though.
Interesting moral outlook on here. Always see threads about streaming etc.
Is there a difference nicking something from sainsburys and streaming sky sports pay per view events without paying? Or using technology to pirate/ stream subscription tv services for free.
People openly do that because they want tv for free and have a sense of entitlement that they should be able to watch it whilst others fund it.
Yet someone nicking something from a shop is seen as lowest of the low.
Assuming no one is hurt/ distressed in the latter is there any real difference?
For me the difference is that shoplifting is taking a physical item, something has actually been lost, that takes money to replace, whereas streaming whilst being a potential loss of revenue, does not cause a direct physical loss, but maybe that’s just me trying to justify something I do vs something I don’t.
It causes a loss to the fighters who would receive it on a pay per view otherwise or the production company and associated staff for tv and films. Potentially impacts people as much if not more as half inching a tin of bins out of Tescos.
Not passing judgement as I think most people do/ have done stuff in the past that isn't whiter than white, just think it's an interesting difference in how things are viewed at different extremes.
They are not getting something, rather than actually losing it though, as I say, probably just mental gymnastics to justify something I do almost everyday.
Interesting moral outlook on here. Always see threads about streaming etc.
Is there a difference nicking something from sainsburys and streaming sky sports pay per view events without paying? Or using technology to pirate/ stream subscription tv services for free.
People openly do that because they want tv for free and have a sense of entitlement that they should be able to watch it whilst others fund it.
Yet someone nicking something from a shop is seen as lowest of the low.
Assuming no one is hurt/ distressed in the latter is there any real difference?
For me the difference is that shoplifting is taking a physical item, something has actually been lost, that takes money to replace, whereas streaming whilst being a potential loss of revenue, does not cause a direct physical loss, but maybe that’s just me trying to justify something I do vs something I don’t.
It causes a loss to the fighters who would receive it on a pay per view otherwise or the production company and associated staff for tv and films. Potentially impacts people as much if not more as half inching a tin of bins out of Tescos.
Not passing judgement as I think most people do/ have done stuff in the past that isn't whiter than white, just think it's an interesting difference in how things are viewed at different extremes.
They are not getting something, rather than actually losing it though, as I say, probably just mental gymnastics to justify something I do almost everyday.
For me, like you I think, it's the "marginal cost" of you taking things.
If you take a tray of Ferrero Rocher, it costs the amount of a tray of Ferrero Rocher.
There is an unbelievably low marginal cost to digital theft (broadband, TV, mobile etc) as a comparison, and that is without the face to face "trauma" side of things that you have with a shoplifting/robbery.
Doesn't make it right, but it is completely different. I would rather someone cloned my card for £10k (which I could get back) than someone breaking into my home (insured) and stealing a TV worth much less.
Interesting moral outlook on here. Always see threads about streaming etc.
Is there a difference nicking something from sainsburys and streaming sky sports pay per view events without paying? Or using technology to pirate/ stream subscription tv services for free.
People openly do that because they want tv for free and have a sense of entitlement that they should be able to watch it whilst others fund it.
Yet someone nicking something from a shop is seen as lowest of the low.
Assuming no one is hurt/ distressed in the latter is there any real difference?
For me the difference is that shoplifting is taking a physical item, something has actually been lost, that takes money to replace, whereas streaming whilst being a potential loss of revenue, does not cause a direct physical loss, but maybe that’s just me trying to justify something I do vs something I don’t.
It causes a loss to the fighters who would receive it on a pay per view otherwise or the production company and associated staff for tv and films. Potentially impacts people as much if not more as half inching a tin of bins out of Tescos.
Not passing judgement as I think most people do/ have done stuff in the past that isn't whiter than white, just think it's an interesting difference in how things are viewed at different extremes.
They are not getting something, rather than actually losing it though, as I say, probably just mental gymnastics to justify something I do almost everyday.
For me, like you I think, it's the "marginal cost" of you taking things.
If you take a tray of Ferrero Rocher, it costs the amount of a tray of Ferrero Rocher.
There is an unbelievably low marginal cost to digital theft (broadband, TV, mobile etc) as a comparison, and that is without the face to face "trauma" side of things that you have with a shoplifting/robbery.
Doesn't make it right, but it is completely different. I would rather someone cloned my card for £10k (which I could get back) than someone breaking into my home (insured) and stealing a TV worth much less.
Mental gymnastics. Both are wrong. Both are stealing.
Happens I Sainsbury orpington on a daily basis. Eastern Europeans mainly. The security guard who is on his own is pretty powerless to do anything about it.
My mum is Eastern European (Polish) and lives in Orpington would be aghast at that suggestion.
Funnily enough, think I was a bystander to shoplifting on Friday. Went up to a self serve machine as the bloke left it and after I’d put my basket down and my bag out I noticed that there was a list of items scanned and it was waiting for a payment, so either he forgot to pay or had the brass neck to appear to be paying and just walked off!
Funnily enough, think I was a bystander to shoplifting on Friday. Went up to a self serve machine as the bloke left it and after I’d put my basket down and my bag out I noticed that there was a list of items scanned and it was waiting for a payment, so either he forgot to pay or had the brass neck to appear to be paying and just walked off!
I don't suppose you managed to pick up the bottle of Dom Pérignon I foolishly seemed to have left behind?
Not shop lifting but many years ago somebody broke into my neighbours house whilst he was taking a shower. He quickly put something on and chased the burglar who had his video. The burglar stopped and stabbed him and he died. Scum.
I wasn’t expecting that outcome!!! Did the murderer get caught
No, but we moved the Hertfordshire. London is a strange place where poverty and wealth can live yards from each other like nowhere else.
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If you take a tray of Ferrero Rocher, it costs the amount of a tray of Ferrero Rocher.
There is an unbelievably low marginal cost to digital theft (broadband, TV, mobile etc) as a comparison, and that is without the face to face "trauma" side of things that you have with a shoplifting/robbery.
Doesn't make it right, but it is completely different. I would rather someone cloned my card for £10k (which I could get back) than someone breaking into my home (insured) and stealing a TV worth much less.
He put 'stocktaker' down as his profession on his application for Cherry Lodge Golf Club.