I still don’t think that sufficient of the several teams below us will all get past us to send us down. But today is the first time I have seriously begun to get worried.
Regardless of the endless permutations it’s a absolute disgrace that this thread even exists. Genuine concerns over Charlton getting relegated to division 4. Wtf.
5 soon to be 6 defeats on the bounce in fucking league one suggests that we are more than capable of going down. One team often gets sucked in and it is increasingly looking like it will be us.
A team of gutless wankers with zero fight does not bode well.
If a couple.of teams below us go on a run we are bang in trouble. Said already and I will say it again, we will go to Ipswich needing something to stay up and if we do I would not be banking on our mob turning up.
For one reason or another, it evidently sounds like the incredibly sensitive dressing room have once again United themselves and have all mutually decide to just give up....again.
The dressing room and training ground obviously has a bad negative atmosphere and it has a lack of energy. They don't know how to pick THEMSELVES up. Do they always constantly rely on a manager? To do and say exactly what is required. At least find a middle ground.
They don't play for the shirt. They play for the money making contract agreement and probably have an agent sleeping in a spare room.
I hope Jackson doesn't give up and or doesn't get sacked.
How many more times is this dreadful form binge going to happen?
Today I found myself cheering for Ipswich and Portsmouth. In the weeks to come maybe Fleetwood and Morecambe will get the wins they need. There were only 6 points in it on the live table today. To think that we are not in a relegation battle is arrogance.
My worry is that when we're playing the lesser teams, with completely brittle confidence, we'll be outfought. We've shown no signs in recent weeks of being able to grind out results.
The likes of Gillingham will come to The Valley knowing that we'll be super tense, and hope to get the crowd restive/angry. That game looks like being crucial.
don't think it will happen, I think the spine of the team that Jacko got when he took over as caretaker returning will be a bit of a catalyst for us - players coming back is always a boost for morale for fans as well as the players, these will be players that haven't had to go through what the others have gone through confidence wise- what I do think though is it will be the latest stage ever til we are mathematically safe in all our time in league one, which is worrying in itself.
Think we will be mathematically safe with 3 games left IMO
I’m not arrogant or taking anything for granted, but we’ve had a tough run of games which I wasn’t expecting too much from.It’s the next 6 games which will determine our fate.
Really don’t want to be going to Ipswich away last game of the Season having to get a result to stay up!
Free hit against Sunderland, again probably be a case of how many they want. Then the big games start
I remember people saying the exact same thing last season but about the season in general once Adkins took over. 1 more point last season and we'd had been in the play offs. But people said.."nah, let Adkins bed in & we can give it a go next season". Look how that turned out.
So, no game is a "free hit". A point next week could mean the difference between staying up or the dreaded drop. You just never know.
FWIW. I don't think we'll get relegated just because the bottom 4 need to start winning games. None are like Burton last season. Today 2 of them were winning, one by 3-0, but still they only drew.
I agree the big games come after next week but I think we'll win another 5 or 6 games and will end up 14th-16th.
More chance of making the play offs than going down
I assume you're either being sarcastic or drunk.
Just look at the table & think again. We are twice the number of points away from the top 6 than we are the bottom 4. I dont think we'll get relegated but it's a damn sight closer odds than the play offs are.
Was 150-1 this time last weekend after Oxford and 100-1 after the MK Dons game. Wonder what it will look like after the Sunderland and Accrington games. Fearing the worst.
As bad as we’ve been, despite losing five on the bounce the margin to Morecambe has only narrowed by 1 or 2 points as they can’t buy a win either. I can’t see them suddenly winning four on the boubce even if we keep losing. There are also another three or four teams who would all need to get past us. I very much doubt it will happen even if we only pick up another five or six points (which I think we will). It’s quite possible we have enough points in the bag already to stay up even if we lose the rest of our games. I’m confident we won’t. It’ll be uncomfortable though.
Part of me wants to survive relegation by only a couple of points so that Sandgaard realises the scale of problem he’s facing. There’s a danger that a good run in might lead to complacency.
We lost to Crewe without any fight. We lost to Lincoln with no fight. We drew with Morecombe when we were doing ok. To say the easier games coming up will see us good is a lot of confidence. We need players back and to stay fit and we need Jacko to get them motivated somehow.
As bad as we’ve been, despite losing five on the bounce the margin to Morecambe has only narrowed by 1 or 2 points as they can’t buy a win either. I can’t see them suddenly winning four on the boubce even if we keep losing. There are also another three or four teams who would all need to get past us. I very much doubt it will happen even if we only pick up another five or six points (which I think we will). It’s quite possible we have enough points in the bag already to stay up even if we lose the rest of our games. I’m confident we won’t. It’ll be uncomfortable though.
One of the most depressing sentences in my 35 years of supporting this club.
Desperately need Stockley and Washington back, then we’ll be fine
Your right but it's a very sad state of affairs. I like Washington but he is hardly brilliant and we haven't had a viable Stockley alternative all season.
It's shocking that we have won one game all season that neither Stockley nor Aneke have played.
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For one reason or another, it evidently sounds like the incredibly sensitive dressing room have once again United themselves and have all mutually decide to just give up....again.
The dressing room and training ground obviously has a bad negative atmosphere and it has a lack of energy. They don't know how to pick THEMSELVES up. Do they always constantly rely on a manager? To do and say exactly what is required.
At least find a middle ground.
They don't play for the shirt. They play for the money making contract agreement and probably have an agent sleeping in a spare room.
I hope Jackson doesn't give up and or doesn't get sacked.
How many more times is this dreadful form binge going to happen?
Think we’ll be fine, but christ is that little run when Jacko was caretaker and the players put a shift in looking very important now.
What a disastrous, massive underachievement
The likes of Gillingham will come to The Valley knowing that we'll be super tense, and hope to get the crowd restive/angry. That game looks like being crucial.
Think we will be mathematically safe with 3 games left IMO
Really don’t want to be going to Ipswich away last game of the Season having to get a result to stay up!
So, no game is a "free hit". A point next week could mean the difference between staying up or the dreaded drop. You just never know.
FWIW. I don't think we'll get relegated just because the bottom 4 need to start winning games. None are like Burton last season. Today 2 of them were winning, one by 3-0, but still they only drew.
I agree the big games come after next week but I think we'll win another 5 or 6 games and will end up 14th-16th.
Just look at the table & think again. We are twice the number of points away from the top 6 than we are the bottom 4. I dont think we'll get relegated but it's a damn sight closer odds than the play offs are.
Wonder what it will look like after the Sunderland and Accrington games. Fearing the worst.
Bolton - 3 shots on target.
Wigan - 1 on target
Oxford - 2 on target
MK Dons - 0 on target
Sheff Weds - 1 on target
Let's hope the return of Fraser and Stockley (and hopefully Aneke or Washington) can help change that.
Al those will be scrapping hard.
It's shocking that we have won one game all season that neither Stockley nor Aneke have played.