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Post-match Thread: Sunderland vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 23rd October 2021

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  • holyjo said:
    Mate is a Sunderland staff member . He said we should had a player sent off after 30 seconds for an off the ball incident , they should have three penalties , but he did say all of ours played lie their lIves depended on it 

    COYR
    Fuck em. 
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    It's always in the detail.

    The team giving it just that extra yard.

    Difference between winning and losing.

    Well done Charlton 
  • ct_addick said:
    To be fair to Johnson that to me is a nailed on penalty it’s a shot on target almost certain goal and pearce arm is raised although not knowing a lot about it…
    From point blank range, so no time for Pearce to get out of the way. 
  • Oggy Red said:
    jonno said:
    That Sunderland defender handling the ball on on the goal line.

    He couldn't prevent the goal as Stockley's header was too powerful - but a a deliberate handball, actively attempting to prevent a goal by cheating.
    Red card offence but not even a caution. Lucky for him the referee turned a blind eye.


    Shocked he didnt get booked - Although @SDAddick mentioned during the game that it probably helped him if the ref thought that the ball was already over the line when he handled it
  • Dazzler21 said:
    Can anyone find this headbutt?
    I certainly dont remember it
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I do remember their bloke cleaning out Famewo long after the ball was played, should be a booking at least, yet nothing.
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    cafctom said:
    But, but, but Jacko and Euell are part of the same problem!
    Wanna like and lol this more than once!!!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    edited October 2021
    Well I'm glad the team didn't think it was a free hit like some posters did !

    And if you followed the pre match thread I predicted a win - all be it 2-1 as even I didn't think we could keep a clean sheet.

    Now into a run of difficult games, starting with a big 6 pointer against Donny. They won today (although being 3-0 up they nearly three it away) and play their game in hand on Tues evening. Win next Saturday & we can then think about mid table obscurity.....
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  • holyjo said:
    Mate is a Sunderland staff member . He said we should had a player sent off after 30 seconds for an off the ball incident , they should have three penalties , but he did say all of ours played lie their lIves depended on it 

    COYR
    Was nothing more than a shoulder barge from Washington

    Thought it quite funny actually as you've got Stockley down on one knee for the respect campaign and no one else following suit, Sunderland have just started the game
  • holyjo said:
    Mate is a Sunderland staff member . He said we should had a player sent off after 30 seconds for an off the ball incident , they should have three penalties , but he did say all of ours played lie their lIves depended on it 

    COYR
    Funniest thing today was when the referee blew for kick-off the players either forgot, or had agreed not to, to take the knee and the ball went to a Sunderland player who clearly was a bit confused by what was going on. Washington absolutely cleaned him out and left him in a heap on the floor.

    Funny thing is when I saw that I actually thought do you know what, Charlton mean business today.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Dave2l said:
    It's always in the detail.

    The team giving it just that extra yard.

    Difference between winning and losing.

    Well done Charlton 
    Today IMO ...... the difference was how the team were set up.

    Under Adkins, it seemed to me that players were totally fed up with his set up which, despite failing game after game, he persisted in using every time.
    It must have been challenging for players to have to adhere to a system and gameplan that clearly wasn't working.


  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 973
    Oggy Red said:
    jonno said:
    That Sunderland defender handling the ball on on the goal line.

    He couldn't prevent the goal as Stockley's header was too powerful - but a a deliberate handball, actively attempting to prevent a goal by cheating.
    Red card offence but not even a caution. Lucky for him the referee turned a blind eye.


    It’s a yellow if it’s unsuccessful 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited October 2021
    Not really sure why Sunderland fans are moaning about the ref. The ball hit Pearce in the face and it it didn’t it was blasted at him from 2 feet away, would’ve been a very harsh penalty. We could have had one for hand ball too. He missed what looked to me like an attempted elbow by one of their players on Pearce and played a whole extra minute of injury time on top of the 5 indicated. Thought he was an average league one ref so got some stuff right and some wrong but certainly didn’t particularly favour one side or the other. 
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 973
    edited October 2021
    Redrobo said:
    Did Johnson say anything about the handball from their centre half who punched the ball away between Stockley and Pearce?
    Did he say anything about the handball on the line to try and stop Stockley’s goal?
    Both deliberate handball.

    Thought not.
    That’s how we (well, you lot) sound when we lose and complain about the ref.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    I dunno, not sure Jackson should get the job, he’s part of the problem.

    Stop it.

    That was what a proper Charlton team looks like. Felt like we were back in a Curbs or Powell era today. The effort from every single player was superb, all fighting for 95 minutes, for every single ball. 

    It was more than just putting a shift in though. Set up in a 4-4-2, clear plan to be organised at the back and use the two central midfielders to get the ball wide and counter, especially to Leko was excellent today (maybe could have been a bit quicker and more direct sometimes?)

    Leko tried that type of cross to Stockley a few times, clear gameplan and a weakness they’d spotted. It worked. 

    Could have had another maybe, Sunderland should feel unlucky not to have had a penalty at 1-0 down for handball. Looked like a penalty to me but would have to see it again. 

    Great win, it’s going to lift us. Great to see Jacko at the end. The players clearly love him and he absolutely loves this club. Onwards and upwards. 
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    When I saw that team, I thought we would be steamrollered, as it seemed full of attacking players who couldn't defend, but what an effort! I'm still staggered at how well Leko played defensively at right wing back. And it's been baffling why Dobson was out in the cold - I like Morgan, but playing him as the defensive midfielder on Tuesday was baffling when we have someone who actually plays in that position in the squad.

    Yes there were team changes, but more importantly was the WAY we played. We were aggressive and busted a gut out there, both to get players flooding forward, and returning into defensive shape. It really showed how we've been underperforming this season, whether down to lack of effort or formations and tactics that just weren't working. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,997
    holyjo said:
    Mate is a Sunderland staff member . He said we should had a player sent off after 30 seconds for an off the ball incident , they should have three penalties , but he did say all of ours played lie their lIves depended on it 

    COYR
    Funniest thing today was when the referee blew for kick-off the players either forgot, or had agreed not to, to take the knee and the ball went to a Sunderland player who clearly was a bit confused by what was going on. Washington absolutely cleaned him out and left him in a heap on the floor.

    Funny thing is when I saw that I actually thought do you know what, Charlton mean business today.
    A few posters on the Sunderland forum saying how we were physically strong and they couldn’t handle it … even one saying we bullied them 🤣
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Cloudworm said:
    Oggy Red said:
    jonno said:
    That Sunderland defender handling the ball on on the goal line.

    He couldn't prevent the goal as Stockley's header was too powerful - but a a deliberate handball, actively attempting to prevent a goal by cheating.
    Red card offence but not even a caution. Lucky for him the referee turned a blind eye.


    It’s a yellow if it’s unsuccessful 
    The earlier one was successful but was missed by both the ref and the linesman. They should have been down to 10 and a Pen to us.

    Pearce got it straight in the face. Superb defending.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Cloudworm said:
    Oggy Red said:
    jonno said:
    That Sunderland defender handling the ball on on the goal line.

    He couldn't prevent the goal as Stockley's header was too powerful - but a a deliberate handball, actively attempting to prevent a goal by cheating.
    Red card offence but not even a caution. Lucky for him the referee turned a blind eye.


    It’s a yellow if it’s unsuccessful 
    I would have thought the offence of actual handling of the ball with intent to prevent a goal is the issue.
    Unless the referee considered the ball was already over the line and a goal, before the player handled?

    With around 30,000 there, perhaps the referee was more concerned about getting out of the stadium alive? :smile:


  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,699
    Chunes said:
    Lee Johnson is the biggest twat in League One and it makes today's victory all the sweeter. 
    Massive clown. When he said Charlton deserve credit he must have had to stop himself throwing up! 

    Really wouldnt want him as our manager at any point. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Lee Johnson probably thinks he doesn't have to wind his neck in because he wears the collar of his jacket up thinking it's cool to look like a cheap B-Movie detective from a forgotten film made on location in Bridlington in 1961.
    In black and white.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Oggy Red said:
    Jacko said he played a 352 who played where anyone?  Only two CBs were on!
    Matthews played more or less as the RCB.


    Shifted to a 4-4-2 quite a lot too. As a 3-5-2 can when it’s done properly.