My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
The Monarchy is safe inThe King's hands. I'm currently watching him meeting members of the Scottish Parliament and he is talking and laughing with them. It can't be easy after losing his mother, but he is following in his mother's footsteps and doing his duty.
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
Not yet it’s not
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s death
There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above isnt morally wrong.
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
Not yet it’s not
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s death
There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.
But not a reason to be arrested ? Don’t get me wrong here. I think those making a protest at this point are misguided and disrespectful but they have the hard won right to peaceful protest and as long as it’s peaceful then they should be allowed to protest without interference from the police.
My father was one of eleven children. He was born in 1914, and the family were absolutely dirt poor living in Lambeth.
Anyway he told me of church and charity established 'boys clubs'. There was no money or equipment, and maybe some kind of hut or small hall for the kids to meet of an evening.
That left the probably the one or two volunteer adults to think up things for the boys to do. So one 'game' was called the 'Seven bridges'.
That basically meant that the boys would start a run at the south side of Lambeth Bridge, and then have to run up the Thames, crossing every one of the bridges until running south across Tower Bridge, then run back to Lambeth through 'The Elephant'. To be met with some home made Lemonade.
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
Not yet it’s not
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s death
There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.
If a pensioner wants to stand, alone, near to Windsor Castle, say, holding up a sign that says, for example, "Putin Go To Hell", I don't think he should be attested and charged.
I'm sure the Monarchy will survive most forms of protest.
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
Rule number 1 of a protest: seek attention.
I don’t agree with doing it at a funeral, but when else can you be seen and heard with Prince nonce-a-lot present?
So. Reports early said sainsbury's, tescos and other stores would close for four hours on the day of the funeral. John lewis , waitrose, primark and few others for the day. Sainsbury's are now closing for the day. The 4 hours for sainsbury's was for the big stores.
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Not the appropriate time for lol's, but coming from you, that really takes the biscuit !
RIP ma'am, and thank you for your sterling service and dedication
So. Reports early said sainsbury's, tescos and other stores would close for four hours on the day of the funeral. John lewis , waitrose, primark and few others for the day. Sainsbury's are now closing for the day. The 4 hours for sainsbury's was for the big stores.
Just been told sainsbury's staff have to take the day as holiday
My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.
Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
Not yet it’s not
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s death
There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.
I agree. I’m not that interested in the monarchy. I won’t be going up to pay my respects. It was sad to see her passing and she has done a tremendous amount for this country. It’s obvious she means so much to so many, particularly those that are lining the streets.
People should of course be allowed to protest, but why not just wait until the end of next week. Any sort of protest now, in amongst a sea of people that care is just going to be seen as antagonistic. I kind of see it a bit like threads on here. There’s many on topics I don’t like, but I don’t open one up just to go on there to tell the people that do want to talk about it that it’s a waste of time
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
On Saturday, Millwall, QPR, Watford and Orient are also at home, plus several London non league sides. On Sunday Brentford's game is currently still going ahead
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
I noticed a few Lancashire police vehicles in town today
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
On Saturday, Millwall, QPR, Watford and Orient are also at home, plus several London non league sides. On Sunday Brentford's game is currently still going ahead
I can see all being at risk
I would imagine the authorities on high alert for any terrorist chatter as well. I can only imagine this sort of occasion and between now and the funeral is something that is very high risk.
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
I noticed a few Lancashire police vehicles in town today
It's a coup. Southern soft bastards all busy policing a queue, Manchester metropolitan take control.
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Anyway he told me of church and charity established 'boys clubs'.
There was no money or equipment, and maybe some kind of hut or small hall for the kids to meet of an evening.
That left the probably the one or two volunteer adults to think up things for the boys to do.
So one 'game' was called the 'Seven bridges'.
That basically meant that the boys would start a run at the south side of Lambeth Bridge, and then have to run up the Thames, crossing every one of the bridges until running south across Tower Bridge, then run back to Lambeth through 'The Elephant'.
To be met with some home made Lemonade.
'It killed us' my old dad used to say.
The map above reminds me of that little story.
I'm sure the Monarchy will survive most forms of protest.
I don’t agree with doing it at a funeral, but when else can you be seen and heard with Prince nonce-a-lot present?
Reports early said sainsbury's, tescos and other stores would close for four hours on the day of the funeral.
John lewis , waitrose, primark and few others for the day.
Sainsbury's are now closing for the day.
The 4 hours for sainsbury's was for the big stores.
RIP ma'am, and thank you for your sterling service and dedication
9326 going in to see the Queen
Pray for clb's niece and nephew
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
I can see all being at risk