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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)

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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Therein lies the problem we'll have until the summer. Even Im currently unsure of those we'll be able to ship on, based on the fact that their contracts will have expired
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Therein lies the problem we'll have until the summer. Even Im currently unsure of those we'll be able to ship on, based on the fact that their contracts will have expired
    ?? If their contracts have expired there is no need to ship them on.
  • If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone

    If it's one of the two I'd rather hold on to Gunter for the numerous positions he covers. Matthews isn't getting a look in at that right wing back position. Whereas Gunter can fill in across the back three. Would rather move on from both of them at the end of the season though.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Therein lies the problem we'll have until the summer. Even Im currently unsure of those we'll be able to ship on, based on the fact that their contracts will have expired
    ?? If their contracts have expired there is no need to ship them on.
    That's what I meant sorry

    We'll be able to ship them out of the club, rather than on to another team

    Just wrote it in my usual confusing way
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Therein lies the problem we'll have until the summer. Even Im currently unsure of those we'll be able to ship on, based on the fact that their contracts will have expired
    ?? If their contracts have expired there is no need to ship them on.
    Will expire.
    In the summer.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Really,  like who that isn't in our starting 11?
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Really,  like who that isn't in our starting 11?
    Ben Watson and Chris Gunter are probably the standouts

    Imagine a few teams towards the bottom would enjoy having their experience
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    If Clare is happy playing in that role we really need to get rid of Gunter or Matthews. One of them as a reserve but having two is just a waste of a squad space. 
    Unfortunately need to find someone to take one of them (Would prefer to keep Matthews)

    Cant see us terminating deals, wont look good trying to sign anyone
    We have got a lot of players that others would bite your hand off for but not on the wages we are paying them. 
    Really,  like who that isn't in our starting 11?
    Ben Watson and Chris Gunter are probably the standouts

    Imagine a few teams towards the bottom would enjoy having their experience
    Where ever they go, I would drive them there.
  • Other than Schwartz and Bogle those 2 are probably our worst signings ffs.
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  • Getting Stockley and Washington back will help. One of them may have been on hand to put a chance away today but unfortunately that's the way it goes when your two best forward options are out at the same time.

    Have to be looking at getting in someone who can take a consistent set piece delivery. I am less and less convinced by what Elliot Lee brings to the table every week.
    Two lose both your main strikers is impossible to replace with players of the same quality at league one level you don’t have the budget for that sort of luxury ….. look at Norwich they looked powder puff up front till the brought Pukki on there main man and that’s only one striker 
    What’s the budget???
  • Just watching forest they have got some squad
  • Getting Stockley and Washington back will help. One of them may have been on hand to put a chance away today but unfortunately that's the way it goes when your two best forward options are out at the same time.

    Have to be looking at getting in someone who can take a consistent set piece delivery. I am less and less convinced by what Elliot Lee brings to the table every week.
    Two lose both your main strikers is impossible to replace with players of the same quality at league one level you don’t have the budget for that sort of luxury ….. look at Norwich they looked powder puff up front till the brought Pukki on there main man and that’s only one striker 
    Very true. Even more frustrating however when you realise that whatever our budget is, some of it is being taken up by deadwood such as Watson, Gunter, Innis etc. 
  • Getting Stockley and Washington back will help. One of them may have been on hand to put a chance away today but unfortunately that's the way it goes when your two best forward options are out at the same time.

    Have to be looking at getting in someone who can take a consistent set piece delivery. I am less and less convinced by what Elliot Lee brings to the table every week.
    Two lose both your main strikers is impossible to replace with players of the same quality at league one level you don’t have the budget for that sort of luxury ….. look at Norwich they looked powder puff up front till the brought Pukki on there main man and that’s only one striker 
    Very true. Even more frustrating however when you realise that whatever our budget is, some of it is being taken up by deadwood such as Watson, Gunter, Innis etc. 
    At least those three are out of contract in the summer, just hope we don’t activate Inniss or Hunter’s 1 year extension options by playing them too often.
  • paulfox said:
    Getting Stockley and Washington back will help. One of them may have been on hand to put a chance away today but unfortunately that's the way it goes when your two best forward options are out at the same time.

    Have to be looking at getting in someone who can take a consistent set piece delivery. I am less and less convinced by what Elliot Lee brings to the table every week.
    Two lose both your main strikers is impossible to replace with players of the same quality at league one level you don’t have the budget for that sort of luxury ….. look at Norwich they looked powder puff up front till the brought Pukki on there main man and that’s only one striker 
    What’s the budget???
    I always just wonder when people coin the we haven’t got the budget, it’s not in our budget phrase, how the actual fuck do they know such things, when they really can’t have any real idea!!. 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • paulfox said:
    paulfox said:
    Getting Stockley and Washington back will help. One of them may have been on hand to put a chance away today but unfortunately that's the way it goes when your two best forward options are out at the same time.

    Have to be looking at getting in someone who can take a consistent set piece delivery. I am less and less convinced by what Elliot Lee brings to the table every week.
    Two lose both your main strikers is impossible to replace with players of the same quality at league one level you don’t have the budget for that sort of luxury ….. look at Norwich they looked powder puff up front till the brought Pukki on there main man and that’s only one striker 
    What’s the budget???
    I always just wonder when people coin the we haven’t got the budget, it’s not in our budget phrase, how the actual fuck do they know such things, when they really can’t have any real idea!!. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Ronnie knows everything - he even knew last nights lottery numbers when he read them in the Plymouth gazette this morning. 
  • DDOUBLEE said:
    Sign a fucking striker FFS
    Because its that easy and straightforward
    Did we not sign one in the summer then? Seemed easy then. 
    We did, and you’re still not happy 
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  • Digne apparently wasn't interested in going to Newcastle.

    Will be a good signing for Villa, him and Coutinho down the left will be very dangerous. Think they're probably a top centre back and central midfielder away from being serious top 6 contenders next year.
  • Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
  • Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
    I think Gunter lost his place because he was shit!!!, I don’t think it was even his place as he came in when matthews got injured, then he hasn’t had a look in since Clare got tried out there.
  • edited January 2022
    Digne apparently wasn't interested in going to Newcastle.

    Will be a good signing for Villa, him and Coutinho down the left will be very dangerous. Think they're probably a top centre back and central midfielder away from being serious top 6 contenders next year.
    They've got lots of decent attacking players but did lack that final bit of quality and are missing Grealish. Buendia been ok but Bailey not done much. Luiz and McGinn pretty decent in midfield but agree they need another one, Sanson has been a flop. 

    Digne signing weird, they've got Targett with Young as cover. 
  • paulfox said:
    Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
    I think Gunter lost his place because he was shit!!!, I don’t think it was even his place as he came in when matthews got injured, then he hasn’t had a look in since Clare got tried out there.
    Not true

    Matthews played on the right of the 3 CBs in the 1-0 win over Sunderland
    Gunter played in the 4-0 win over Doncaster and the 1-1 draw against Rotherham

    He then missed Burton due to a Welsh callup, and Clare played there as the only option. Clare played well and kept his place, but I'm sure that was never Jacko's plan
  • paulfox said:
    Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
    I think Gunter lost his place because he was shit!!!, I don’t think it was even his place as he came in when matthews got injured, then he hasn’t had a look in since Clare got tried out there.
    Not true

    Matthews played on the right of the 3 CBs in the 1-0 win over Sunderland
    Gunter played in the 4-0 win over Doncaster and the 1-1 draw against Rotherham

    He then missed Burton due to a Welsh callup, and Clare played there as the only option. Clare played well and kept his place, but I'm sure that was never Jacko's plan
    My point was, Matthews —-Gunter —-Clare. If matthews didn’t get injured we wouldn’t have seen Gunter in that position as Jacko had left him out of previous early squads completely. IMO he’s been shot for ages, maybe true?!!😂
  • edited January 2022
    Other than Schwartz and Bogle those 2 are probably our worst signings ffs.
    Yeah and they both found other clubs straight away.  The likes of Gillingham, and there are a lot of professional clubs worse off than them, would take the likes of Watson, Gunter, Matthews et al but not for the wages we pay.  Shinnie, Pratley and OG Deji all got snapped up straight away. 
  • Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
    Our squad wasn't even balanced for the formation we tried to recruit for.   The squad isn't as good as it was at the end of last season, when the time and effort spent on it suggests it should have been.

    So many of the intangibles are missing.  We have 25ish good players (I don't think any of them are awful) but we don't have a great team, the right balance or the right blend.  We have 8 players who have no realistic cover in the squad and need at least 6 of them on the pitch to get results. That's piss poor. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Our squad is full but unbalanced due to signing players for a system we no longer play, which is frustrating. AND (something I wasn't happy about in the summer) the lack of U21 player signed, meaning they all count for the squad cap.

    I feel slightly sorry for Gunter, in that at the moment he only seems to play as  the left sided CB of the 3, rather than the right sided CB where he's more comfortable. After all he only lost his place there due to his Welsh callup as he had been playing well there.
    Our squad wasn't even balanced for the formation we tried to recruit for.   The squad isn't as good as it was at the end of last season, when the time and effort spent on it suggests it should have been.

    So many of the intangibles are missing.  We have 25ish good players (I don't think any of them are awful) but we don't have a great team, the right balance or the right blend.  We have 8 players who have no realistic cover in the squad and need at least 6 of them on the pitch to get results. That's piss poor. 
    I find recruiting for a set formation odd anyway, especially if said formation isn’t working. I think managers being able to change tactics and formations with the same players is what sets the very good and average manager apart. There also seems to be less players individually able to adapt there game these days,maybe I’m wrong? Just feels that way.
  • Addick_8 said:
    If Lyle got our very very very unlikely playoff ambitions back on track why on earth wouldn’t anyone want him back. Without a player of his ability both this and next season we won’t be going anywhere.
    Because one of the main reasons we are currently trying to see if we can break into League 1 play offs is because our main talisman refused to play and see out his contract (I shouldn’t have to explain it really) 

    You don’t do that. Yes, there are many reasons we went down that year but if Lyle had played and put some of them chances away we just kept missing, we stay up. 

    Either way, you don’t refuse to see out your contract because you have a better deal elsewhere and don’t want to mess it up. 

    I find it amazing people would actually accept him back 😂
    I'd accept him back if he signed a contract that includes doing several hours work per week for Charlton in The Community as way of apology.

    Otherwise he can go eat shit.
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