JJ “It’s Wednesday night and I can’t see anything happening before the weekend. We’ve highlighted targets and we’re working on them. I think we need a little bit of help. A little bit of a freshen up could give us fresh impetus for the last push of the season. But no real updates yet.”
This is just silly isn’t it, the targets should have been identified and dealt with early, I can’t see the point if our promotion push is over. Be different if we were 6 points off it because no matter what by the end of the window we’d still have a shot.
It's worth saying again .. for a talented young player on average to good L1 wages, a move to the London area is often not viable. He might be living in a £200,000 house in a northern/midlands town or city with his family. Little traffic, good schools, easy travel to and from the training ground. Then, he signs for Charlton, sells the nice house and for the price he gets, he can buy a leasehold one bedroom flat above a chip shop in Penge with no parking space for his nice motor and no space for the wife and saucepan lids (if he has either)
THIS i m o is the biggest recruitment problem we have, the cost of living in London, as I say, for a footballer earning good money, but a salary that gives him an inferior standard of living to what he might enjoy well outside the M25
I agree to an extent but there is loads of property in Kent (Maidstone way) that is much better value for money but still close enough to London and its environs.
I am not convinced players think about these kinds of things too much
JJ “It’s Wednesday night and I can’t see anything happening before the weekend. We’ve highlighted targets and we’re working on them. I think we need a little bit of help. A little bit of a freshen up could give us fresh impetus for the last push of the season. But no real updates yet.”
This is just silly isn’t it, the targets should have been identified and dealt with early, I can’t see the point if our promotion push is over. Be different if we were 6 points off it because no matter what by the end of the window we’d still have a shot.
He is starting to speak like Bowyer.
What does that even mean?
There's a bit missing from the above quote where Jacko says we need a couple of fresh bodies to make us betterer.
This should be the shortest thread on here but it is filled with angst and wishlists, nearly halfway through the month and we have had the merest whiff of a few rumours.
It's worth saying again .. for a talented young player on average to good L1 wages, a move to the London area is often not viable. He might be living in a £200,000 house in a northern/midlands town or city with his family. Little traffic, good schools, easy travel to and from the training ground. Then, he signs for Charlton, sells the nice house and for the price he gets, he can buy a leasehold one bedroom flat above a chip shop in Penge with no parking space for his nice motor and no space for the wife and saucepan lids (if he has either)
THIS i m o is the biggest recruitment problem we have, the cost of living in London, as I say, for a footballer earning good money, but a salary that gives him an inferior standard of living to what he might enjoy well outside the M25
Depends how young you're talking.
A talented player aged 20-25 isn't going to give a shit about traffic, travel, good schools etc, he'll probably be more concerned about bars and clubs.
Ultimately though it almost always comes down to money. If the player is at a smaller league 1 club or in league 2, then he'll jump at the chance to earn an extra 2-3k a week, no matter where he currently lives.
Connor Wickham released by PNE - could be nice cover for Stockley on a deal until the end of the season.
Keeping him remotely fit will be a decent enough trick.
Bloke is one of the worst players available for getting injured
We do seem to sign a lot of former Palace players with injury issues, so he'd fit right in. Even ignoring Watson who's just slow rather than injury prone, we've had
Interesting to think that for the play off winning squad of 2019 we managed to loan in Bielik & Cullen from Premier League clubs. One was then sold for £12m (probably a tad overpriced) and the other for less than £1m (a steal). Whereas this season we are loaning in players like Lee & Arter.
Chalk & Cheese.
Jackson won't have the same pull for young midfielders that Bowyer did. Jackon is a legend for us, but Bowyer is a big name in English football in general.
I wonder if "the budget" is the problem. (Just me speculating) I get we don't want to pay over the odds and we want to grow sustainably. But we need quality and maybe we need to push the boat a little.
Suspect the budget was largely spent (wasted?) on Stockley and Kirk fees along with the high salaries the likes of Watson, Gunter, Arter etc
Definitely spent enough, just spent it badly. Personally, think we are paying for the window under ESI & TS last summer which has caused the problems.
Balance of the squad is ridiculous. Almost 9 players who can play centre back now. Almost 20 matches left to the season. How many matches do we expect Gunter or Watson to start between now and the end of the season? At most maybe 1 or 2. The time has come to be ruthless by TS, but will need a lot of planning to be successful if we aren’t going to throw silly money at it.
I wonder if "the budget" is the problem. (Just me speculating) I get we don't want to pay over the odds and we want to grow sustainably. But we need quality and maybe we need to push the boat a little.
Suspect the budget was largely spent (wasted?) on Stockley and Kirk fees along with the high salaries the likes of Watson, Gunter, Arter etc
Wouldn't be surprised if the outlay was over £2m in the summer once you include loan fees. Terminating Schwartz with a year left to run wouldn't have been cheap either.
Interesting to think that for the play off winning squad of 2019 we managed to loan in Bielik & Cullen from Premier League clubs. One was then sold for £12m (probably a tad overpriced) and the other for less than £1m (a steal). Whereas this season we are loaning in players like Lee & Arter.
Chalk & Cheese.
Spot on. They are the benchmark.
Croydon makes a good point about Bowyer’s pull however.
It's worth saying again .. for a talented young player on average to good L1 wages, a move to the London area is often not viable. He might be living in a £200,000 house in a northern/midlands town or city with his family. Little traffic, good schools, easy travel to and from the training ground. Then, he signs for Charlton, sells the nice house and for the price he gets, he can buy a leasehold one bedroom flat above a chip shop in Penge with no parking space for his nice motor and no space for the wife and saucepan lids (if he has either)
THIS i m o is the biggest recruitment problem we have, the cost of living in London, as I say, for a footballer earning good money, but a salary that gives him an inferior standard of living to what he might enjoy well outside the M25
I agree to an extent but there is loads of property in Kent (Maidstone way) that is much better value for money but still close enough to London and its environs.
I am not convinced players think about these kinds of things too much
This. How much is Kirk on, £3k a week? He can buy here, pay the mortgage for 4 years, sell with equity and by somewhere nice in Crewe when he retires. his forever home!
Just me or is anyone else not fussed if we do or don’t sign anyone? Season’s gone, rebuild should happen in the summer with planning now so make the signings we want in the first few weeks. Knowing us, we’ll sign our top summer targets now and they’ll all suffer hip/toe/ear injuries ruling them out til 2026.
Just me or is anyone else not fussed if we do or don’t sign anyone? Season’s gone, rebuild should happen in the summer with planning now so make the signings we want in the first few weeks. Knowing us, we’ll sign our top summer targets now and they’ll all suffer hip/toe/ear injuries ruling them out til 2026.
Immediate concern is that we don’t burn Burstow into the ground. Not an expert when it comes to injuries, but don’t think we can continue playing him this much before he suffers an injury. Really needs to be managed until the end of the season, before giving him a proper men’s pre season.
Blimey - we get all precious about parker and kids in the academy being sold but then are willing to take back a 39 year old who f**ked off at 16 after being with us from the age of 9 just coz west ham offered his mum a car - we got nothing for him, at least we got good money for the rest.
I wouldn’t be overly impressed by signing Defoe, I’ve been booing him for around 23 years. Mind you he’s been scoring against us for around 23 years, perhaps we are even?
we’re not getting anyone decent same old January transfer just stay up this season ship out all the shit players and we have a lot and start next season . Why are we so bad away from home.
If Defoe came and was like Jimmy Floyd-Hasselbaink he would get the worst treatment of any Charlton player. He would have to put lots of effort in and score goals, at 39 he would struggle to achieve much. He is Judas and unless he came and was wonderful he always will be.
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I am not convinced players think about these kinds of things too much
A talented player aged 20-25 isn't going to give a shit about traffic, travel, good schools etc, he'll probably be more concerned about bars and clubs.
Ultimately though it almost always comes down to money. If the player is at a smaller league 1 club or in league 2, then he'll jump at the chance to earn an extra 2-3k a week, no matter where he currently lives.
Bloke is one of the worst players available for getting injured
Learnt nothing from having Davison as our replacement for Chuks.
He makes Inniss look like a fitness machine.
A hint of truth in that maybe, we know the boss doesn't like agents and have heard countless tales of utilising Gallen and Sandy Jr's contacts.
Preferred supplier you could say.
Williams
Ledley
Inniss
Souare
Balance of the squad is ridiculous. Almost 9 players who can play centre back now. Almost 20 matches left to the season. How many matches do we expect Gunter or Watson to start between now and the end of the season? At most maybe 1 or 2. The time has come to be ruthless by TS, but will need a lot of planning to be successful if we aren’t going to throw silly money at it.
From their Spurs days?
Croydon makes a good point about Bowyer’s pull however.
Season’s gone, rebuild should happen in the summer with planning now so make the signings we want in the first few weeks.
Knowing us, we’ll sign our top summer targets now and they’ll all suffer hip/toe/ear injuries ruling them out til 2026.