I think Charlton club stewards even at away games with the cooperation of the home club should be visible and filming the crowd. Those identified and without doubt involved in this obnoxious behaviour should be named, shamed and banned. Pictures of the individuals printed in the match day programme and on a wall of shame at The Valley. It’s no good wringing hands and saying it’s a societal problem, which of course it is but over and above that it’s a Charlton problem and we need to get on top of it. If we want to attract families and grow our support then these characters represent a barrier to that. We need to make The Valley and our away end a hostile environment for these morons. We can’t expect the fans alone to confront them. That would be foolhardy. The club must take a proactive lead.
We have no club stewards, we use agency staff. They are no very good and often only want to fight issues with supporters that the club management see as important
Are you aware that some if those who went to prison for the Stephen Lawrence abuse after the Fulham cup game in 2012 now attend the Valley as their banning orders are now up? Would you retrospectively ban them and put them up on the wall of shame?
As a club we are trying to get out this message at home games but do it through a PA system you cannot hear in the North Upper
If the club has no stewards, perhaps they should recruit a couple to fulfill the role I’ve suggested ?
Those who went to prison and served their ban have done their time and received their punishment. From a personal perspective I wouldn’t seek out their company but they now have the right to attend. It’s all about nipping this current crop of idiots in the bud.
So they would not make the name and shame wall? Far too inconsistent for my liking
If it was my choice they would along with the current crop of morons receive life bans. They didn’t and on that basis have served their punishment. Should the club decide to revisit their banning orders and make it for life I wouldn’t mind in the slightest. I’m not defending any of them. Absolute scum.
I won’t go to as many away games as I used to because of the morons that follow us . They are mainly young but not always . I’ve sat with my son a couple of times only to have to put up with them openly taking coke and being abusive whenever they get the chance . I know it’s sad but thank god for Charlton TV .
They are mainly young mate i agree. But a couple of years ago at Reading, i had a guy and his teenage daughter stand up to watch the game when they could adequately see it siting down. Despite others and myself politely requesting them to sit down they refused. I had to watch the game on the concourse otherwise it would have been a waste of time.
The usual no brainers here ridiculed it when i spoke about it afterwards, that is the level of support that we carry.
You can't seriously be comparing what's being discussed on this thread to people standing at an away match?
I am talking about some of the moronic idiots that follow our football club who don't give a toss about their actions on others, so yes.
Cant believe people would stick up for this sort of behaviour.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
I won’t go to as many away games as I used to because of the morons that follow us . They are mainly young but not always . I’ve sat with my son a couple of times only to have to put up with them openly taking coke and being abusive whenever they get the chance . I know it’s sad but thank god for Charlton TV .
They are mainly young mate i agree. But a couple of years ago at Reading, i had a guy and his teenage daughter stand up to watch the game when they could adequately see it siting down. Despite others and myself politely requesting them to sit down they refused. I had to watch the game on the concourse otherwise it would have been a waste of time.
The usual no brainers here ridiculed it when i spoke about it afterwards, that is the level of support that we carry.
You can't seriously be comparing what's being discussed on this thread to people standing at an away match?
It basically comes down to a lack of respect. Those standing when asked to sit are pathetic and yes it’s all part of the problem. A comparison isn’t of course direct but it’s certainly legitimate.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
I won’t go to as many away games as I used to because of the morons that follow us . They are mainly young but not always . I’ve sat with my son a couple of times only to have to put up with them openly taking coke and being abusive whenever they get the chance . I know it’s sad but thank god for Charlton TV .
They are mainly young mate i agree. But a couple of years ago at Reading, i had a guy and his teenage daughter stand up to watch the game when they could adequately see it siting down. Despite others and myself politely requesting them to sit down they refused. I had to watch the game on the concourse otherwise it would have been a waste of time.
The usual no brainers here ridiculed it when i spoke about it afterwards, that is the level of support that we carry.
You can't seriously be comparing what's being discussed on this thread to people standing at an away match?
It basically comes down to a lack of respect. Those standing when asked to sit are pathetic and yes it’s all part of the problem. A comparison isn’t of course direct but it’s certainly legitimate.
Well said mate, the last line of my post comes to mind.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
So much ado about nothing?
Not really . Weve already hung,drawn and quartered 3 Charlton fans.
Hmmm.. Intending to go to my 1st away game in years when we play Sheff Wed next month with son and his girlfriend who live there. Reading this thread has put me off a bit getting tickets in the away end and potentially end up sitting next to a group of morons. Just don't want the hassle. Will probably get tickets for the home area instead.
I won’t go to as many away games as I used to because of the morons that follow us . They are mainly young but not always . I’ve sat with my son a couple of times only to have to put up with them openly taking coke and being abusive whenever they get the chance . I know it’s sad but thank god for Charlton TV .
They are mainly young mate i agree. But a couple of years ago at Reading, i had a guy and his teenage daughter stand up to watch the game when they could adequately see it siting down. Despite others and myself politely requesting them to sit down they refused. I had to watch the game on the concourse otherwise it would have been a waste of time.
The usual no brainers here ridiculed it when i spoke about it afterwards, that is the level of support that we carry.
You can't seriously be comparing what's being discussed on this thread to people standing at an away match?
I am talking about some of the moronic idiots that follow our football club who don't give a toss about their actions on others, so yes.
Cant believe people would stick up for this sort of behaviour.
Standing up at football is not the same as hate speech. Defending those standing at football is not the same as defending hate speech
I think Charlton club stewards even at away games with the cooperation of the home club should be visible and filming the crowd. Those identified and without doubt involved in this obnoxious behaviour should be named, shamed and banned. Pictures of the individuals printed in the match day programme and on a wall of shame at The Valley. It’s no good wringing hands and saying it’s a societal problem, which of course it is but over and above that it’s a Charlton problem and we need to get on top of it. If we want to attract families and grow our support then these characters represent a barrier to that. We need to make The Valley and our away end a hostile environment for these morons. We can’t expect the fans alone to confront them. That would be foolhardy. The club must take a proactive lead.
We have no club stewards, we use agency staff. They are no very good and often only want to fight issues with supporters that the club management see as important
Are you aware that some if those who went to prison for the Stephen Lawrence abuse after the Fulham cup game in 2012 now attend the Valley as their banning orders are now up? Would you retrospectively ban them and put them up on the wall of shame?
As a club we are trying to get out this message at home games but do it through a PA system you cannot hear in the North Upper
If the club has no stewards, perhaps they should recruit a couple to fulfill the role I’ve suggested ?
Those who went to prison and served their ban have done their time and received their punishment. From a personal perspective I wouldn’t seek out their company but they now have the right to attend. It’s all about nipping this current crop of idiots in the bud.
So they would not make the name and shame wall? Far too inconsistent for my liking
If it was my choice they would along with the current crop of morons receive life bans. They didn’t and on that basis have served their punishment. Should the club decide to revisit their banning orders and make it for life I wouldn’t mind in the slightest. I’m not defending any of them. Absolute scum.
The banning orders were given out by the courts. The club can decide who they let in
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Read the statement and it certainly reads as though the homophobic abuse was from the Cheltenham end. Hence why they mention the set up of their own LGBTQ group.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
So much ado about nothing?
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No, not at all.
Three people were abusing Stephen Henderson using homophobic language.
That's not "nothing" just because they don't support the same team as us or because it was our player.
I think Charlton club stewards even at away games with the cooperation of the home club should be visible and filming the crowd. Those identified and without doubt involved in this obnoxious behaviour should be named, shamed and banned. Pictures of the individuals printed in the match day programme and on a wall of shame at The Valley. It’s no good wringing hands and saying it’s a societal problem, which of course it is but over and above that it’s a Charlton problem and we need to get on top of it. If we want to attract families and grow our support then these characters represent a barrier to that. We need to make The Valley and our away end a hostile environment for these morons. We can’t expect the fans alone to confront them. That would be foolhardy. The club must take a proactive lead.
We have no club stewards, we use agency staff. They are no very good and often only want to fight issues with supporters that the club management see as important
Are you aware that some if those who went to prison for the Stephen Lawrence abuse after the Fulham cup game in 2012 now attend the Valley as their banning orders are now up? Would you retrospectively ban them and put them up on the wall of shame?
As a club we are trying to get out this message at home games but do it through a PA system you cannot hear in the North Upper
If the club has no stewards, perhaps they should recruit a couple to fulfill the role I’ve suggested ?
Those who went to prison and served their ban have done their time and received their punishment. From a personal perspective I wouldn’t seek out their company but they now have the right to attend. It’s all about nipping this current crop of idiots in the bud.
So they would not make the name and shame wall? Far too inconsistent for my liking
If it was my choice they would along with the current crop of morons receive life bans. They didn’t and on that basis have served their punishment. Should the club decide to revisit their banning orders and make it for life I wouldn’t mind in the slightest. I’m not defending any of them. Absolute scum.
The banning orders were given out by the courts. The club can decide who they let in
Fair enough. Like I said I wouldn’t be disappointed if the club gave them life bans.
Not good. No need for that kind of crap. As for the pitch invasion...oh dear. Couldn't believe it when that happened. We'd just equalised at mighty Cheltenham Town - imagine if we'd won? Sad times.
It's sadly becoming quite common now
Also, did someone throw a bottle at the Cheltenham goalscorer as he celebrated?
Yes.
That prick needs publicly shaming and banning along with the homophobe scum No exceptions, no excuses, these cancers need cutting out, anything else leaves room for these hate carcasses to spread their poison.
A relief that the homophobic abuse didn't involve our fans, though surprised only 3 were arrested, and nobody for throwing the bottle at the goalscorer
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Well I’m grateful it wasn’t our fans. But I stand by what I said. No place for it anywhere.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
So much ado about nothing?
Not at all The abusers are scum with no place at football matches regardless of which club they claimed to support. They deserve everything they get. Football's attitude to this cancer has to be unified and unequivocal. Never give the hate mongers an inch.
"it wasn't Charlton fans therefore it doesn't matter" is exactly the appeasing complacency that gives these little pricks the space to disseminate their hate and is very much part of the problem.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
That is really good news.
No, it's really not.
How is homophobic abuse good news?
Jesus Christ…
Well, I don’t think Henners has ever turned water into wine 🤔
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
That is really good news.
No, it's really not.
How is homophobic abuse good news?
Jesus Christ…
Well, I don’t think Henners has ever turned water into wine 🤔
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Perhaps some should have waited for this information before automatically discrediting our support.
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Perhaps some should have waited for this information before automatically discrediting our support.
Its the default setting of some to have a go at our supporters without knowing the full facts (in this case a twitter account belong to a Cheltenham supporter)
Confirmed to Mick Everett, the Charlton Head of Match Day Operations by Cheltenham police that the three arrested for homophobic abuse were Cheltenham fans not Charlton fans.
There were 3 ejections of Charlton fans , 2 for alcohol related and 1 for failing to comply.
Perhaps some should have waited for this information before automatically discrediting our support.
Perhaps people should understand they were automatically discrediting homophobia & appalled that it may have been our own. Relief that it wasn’t but still disgusted it happened.
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Cant believe people would stick up for this sort of behaviour.
Just for now of course.
Weve already hung,drawn and quartered 3 Charlton fans.
While I'm glad to hear it wasn't in this instance our fans it is still wrong and needs to be addressed.
Never forget, never again
No, not at all.
Three people were abusing Stephen Henderson using homophobic language.
That's not "nothing" just because they don't support the same team as us or because it was our player.
No exceptions, no excuses, these cancers need cutting out, anything else leaves room for these hate carcasses to spread their poison.
But I stand by what I said.
No place for it anywhere.
How is homophobic abuse good news?
The abusers are scum with no place at football matches regardless of which club they claimed to support.
They deserve everything they get.
Football's attitude to this cancer has to be unified and unequivocal. Never give the hate mongers an inch.
"it wasn't Charlton fans therefore it doesn't matter" is exactly the appeasing complacency that gives these little pricks the space to disseminate their hate and is very much part of the problem.
*Joke*.
https://twitter.com/ctfcofficial/status/1482669207061995523?s=21
PS Jesus was a crossmaker
Relief that it wasn’t but still disgusted it happened.