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Terry Skiverton - gone to AFC Wimbledon with Jacko (p10)
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I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing it, just wondered if it was confirmedeastterrace6168 said:
WIOTOS as @Henry Irving would say, so far lot's of speculation with nothing official...but why not discuss a possible rumour..Gribbo said:Is this official BTW?
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I can't seem him as a future manager in waiting if things go wrong. He seems happier as a number 2.SELR_addicks said:Skiverton has management experience with Yeovil so maybe he's come in as an experienced assistant manager + manager in waiting if things don't work out.
Would be good to have an outside view on things and how the coaching is going especially.
One positive aspect thing about him is that he was a centre back, and we do need to tighten up at the back2 -
Promotion from the inside is great if there is a culture of success........thenewbie said:
I think this is one of the most important things about this (hypothetical) appointment - whilst promoting from the inside is great for maintaining certain values and attitudes we want to keep, maybe there's some things that need to change, or be refreshed a bit.SELR_addicks said:Skiverton has management experience with Yeovil so maybe he's come in as an experienced assistant manager + manager in waiting if things don't work out.
Would be good to have an outside view on things and how the coaching is going especially.
From the sound of it, Skiverton is someone who knows Jackson and they apparently get on but possibly having someone willing to call it when things aren't working or to play devil's advocate on the training ground might be a benefit.
Not to say that Euell can't or won't do that but if he is thinking of his own future then he might be holding his tongue somewhat whereas someone like Skiverton may be less restrained.
(Admittedly all hypothetical but I think it follows logically enough.)
Do you want continuation of the status quo?
The only example of it working long term, I think, is the Liverpool boot room but that started from a very high point.1 -
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.3 -
Yeah, I agree. There are obvious benefits to Jackson stepping up like he did (knowing the players, having a level of respect from them, and the known qualities of the man himself) but he's been there as well when things went wrong under both Bowyer and Adkins.Cafc43v3r said:
Promotion from the inside is great if there is a culture of success........thenewbie said:
I think this is one of the most important things about this (hypothetical) appointment - whilst promoting from the inside is great for maintaining certain values and attitudes we want to keep, maybe there's some things that need to change, or be refreshed a bit.SELR_addicks said:Skiverton has management experience with Yeovil so maybe he's come in as an experienced assistant manager + manager in waiting if things don't work out.
Would be good to have an outside view on things and how the coaching is going especially.
From the sound of it, Skiverton is someone who knows Jackson and they apparently get on but possibly having someone willing to call it when things aren't working or to play devil's advocate on the training ground might be a benefit.
Not to say that Euell can't or won't do that but if he is thinking of his own future then he might be holding his tongue somewhat whereas someone like Skiverton may be less restrained.
(Admittedly all hypothetical but I think it follows logically enough.)
Do you want continuation of the status quo?
The only example of it working long term, I think, is the Liverpool boot room but that started from a very high point.
With a danger of history repeating itself a third time, I think fresh eyes being bought in can only be a good thing. I have faith that JJ can still turn it back around but fresh thinking will only help in that.1 -
I believe that our Terry is currently en route from Heathrow after his flight from St Lucia touched down.
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Coming from 1956 is a bit of an insult! Although admittedly, not sure spelling it wrong constantly constitutes a typo, not that I should be part of the spelling police, sorry!Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.1 -
Was it really worth responding to an obvious wind up...Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.1 -
Good luck to Terry although I must confess I was hoping for Andy Hughes.2
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addick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspeltCafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
Two 'typo's' in your reply 😂😂4 -
I make it six but I think it was deliberate so the troll would get fed.Todds_right_hook said:addick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspeltCafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
Two 'typo's' in your reply 😂😂1 -
Shame you don't seem to have listened to that very good advice.addick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspelt twice.Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.4 -
Hey Makeoneaddick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspelt twice.Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
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Me school, didn't goHenry Irving said:
I make it six but I think it was deliberate so the troll would get fed.Todds_right_hook said:addick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspeltCafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
Two 'typo's' in your reply 😂😂0 -
Me did but one not good.Todds_right_hook said:
Me school, didn't goHenry Irving said:
I make it six but I think it was deliberate so the troll would get fed.Todds_right_hook said:addick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspeltCafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
Two 'typo's' in your reply 😂😂
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To be honest, predictive text does seem to be getting a bit in front of itself on the artificial intelligence front. It takes over and gets it wrong quite often3
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Maybe JJ & Euell are too close to some of the players from the old roles under NA. Perhaps having a external motivator in an around the set up to look at things differently is a positive move. Welcome Terry0
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Agree. But then perhaps always best to first read through again what you've just written - before posting.Gribbo said:To be honest, predictive text does seem to be getting a bit in front of itself on the artificial intelligence front. It takes over and gets it wrong quite often
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What on earth is that supposed to be? At least insult me properly if you're going to.addick1956 said:
That was aimed at Newbie who Reay must be Oldbie by now.Dazzler21 said:
Hey Makeoneaddick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspelt twice.Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.9 -
The guy who invented predictive text died last week. His funfair is next Monkey.Gribbo said:To be honest, predictive text does seem to be getting a bit in front of itself on the artificial intelligence front. It takes over and gets it wrong quite often27 -
Ding Dong !Oggy Red said:
If TS likes to be called Thomas, perhaps the new TS likes to be called Terry?Henry Irving said:I'm going to wait until it's on the OS and JJ explains his reasons.
I really can't see this being a TS choice so assume Jackson has made this choice based on Skiverton's experience and skills but we shall see
Annoying to have another TS at the club to confuse things.
But please, no Terry Thomas.3 -
You Reay shouldn't be correcting other peoples spellingaddick1956 said:
That was aimed at Newbie who Reay must be Oldbie by now.Dazzler21 said:
Hey Makeoneaddick1956 said:
Is it ? When. I makeone people don't think so In fact I am told to proof read. Anyway it is misspelt twice.Cafc43v3r said:
A typo, pretty obvious who I was referring to.addick1956 said:
Who is Euall ?Cafc43v3r said:It's not about Euall it's about giving Jackson the best chance of being successful.
Or do we just want Euall to stick around for when Jackson fucks it up or fucks off, because statistically he is highly likely to do one or the other. Then make Euall manager because its his turn and he deserves it? Then Hayes, then who ever is the u12s coach is.
If the manager is 100% responsible for the results he needs to have the best chance to succeed. Sometimes there has to be some collateral damage.
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Pretty sure it was reported somewhere. That’s not my own conclusion.Henry Irving said:
Wow, that is a huge leap.The Red Robin said:
Euell doesn’t have the time to commit to being our assistant manager because of his England duties. He’s missed games of ours already remember. That’s why Jacko wanted someone else in.se9addick said:Unexpected but some fresh experience from outside the Charlton bubble isn’t a bad thing. Hopefully Euell is cool with it.
He missed, IIRC, one game while representing Charlton within the England set up.
He'll be building links with very good young players who might just come to Charlton one day on loan or permanently as well as improving his own coaching skills and experience.0 -
Charlton Athletic are delighted to confirm the appointment of Terry Skiverton as First-Team Coach.
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/61e5defe59761/terry-skiverton-appointed-as-first-team-coach
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Well he isn't the assistant, wonder how Euell feels about that........1
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He is obviously a JJ choice and I don’t think his title, or lack of one, will matter. The players will know the pecking order from who does and says what.2
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Just out of interest, what would the plan/situation be for assistant manager?0
